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Posted 13 August 2009 - 03:53 PM

I want to learn how to can.
What is your favorite canner?
And what are some "dos and don'ts" ?
I read pressure canning is better.
I have 2 ladies wanting to help get me started. Next year I will be ready...YES!!!
I hope to collect some jars this year and a canner...
Thanks for all your tips!! :D
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28
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Posted 13 August 2009 - 07:42 PM

View Postpurple, on Aug 13 2009, 07:53 PM, said:

I want to learn how to can.
What is your favorite canner?
And what are some "dos and don'ts" ?
I read pressure canning is better.
I have 2 ladies wanting to help get me started. Next year I will be ready...YES!!!
I hope to collect some jars this year and a canner...
Thanks for all your tips!! :D



It really depends on what you are planning to can. Anything considered high acid foods can be done in a boiling water bath canner (enamal coted aluminum). For example, tomatoes, pickles, relishes, canned fruit(peaches, pears, applesauce). If you are going to can low acid foods like corn, carrots, green beans, meat items, soups etc. then you need to use a pressure canner. You can do the high acid foods in a pressure canner also. I have a water bath canner and have only canned stuff recommended for that method. I have helped my mother can other stuff in the pressure canner. (I have not braved it yet myself). A water bath canner is less expensive than a pressure canner, but the advantage to a pressure canner is that you can do everything in it.
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Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:39 PM

I haven't done this before but would like to in the future.
The below link I saved a while ago from a different post. It has a lot of good info.
GOOD LUCK =)

http://www.uga.edu/n...tions_usda.html
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 01:49 AM

Oh. I forgot to mention that the Ball Blue Book of Preserving is a great addition to have. I have used it often. Another thing to remember is that when you use a pressure canner you really do not want to have any distractions. You really need to watch the pressure guage and maintain it at the proper pounds pressure (by regulating the flame or electric burner). It does have a saftey valve that will pop open if the pressure gets to high, but properly watched this should not happen unless it just malfunctions. The nice thing about it is that processing times are less than with water bath canning. Someday I will get one myself. :P
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:48 AM

View PostRoda, on Aug 14 2009, 02:49 AM, said:

Oh. I forgot to mention that the Ball Blue Book of Preserving is a great addition to have. I have used it often. Another thing to remember is that when you use a pressure canner you really do not want to have any distractions. You really need to watch the pressure guage and maintain it at the proper pounds pressure (by regulating the flame or electric burner). It does have a saftey valve that will pop open if the pressure gets to high, but properly watched this should not happen unless it just malfunctions. The nice thing about it is that processing times are less than with water bath canning. Someday I will get one myself. :P


Really good advice. The newer pressure cookers are better than the ones we had many years ago so do get a new one rather than a 'hand-me-down. When I was a chef we did everything from scratch and I used a pressure cooker for the beans for my refried beans. I got busy with something else in the kitchen and all of a sudden there was a big BOOM and cooked beans and the lid flew. The other employees got a big laugh out of my diving under the prep table and crawling shaking and quivering out of the kitchen covered in beans. I of course found it not a bit funny. Quite a mess to clean up and I refused to use that cooker ever again.
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 06:49 AM

Gosh, today must be your lucky day to ask the question because the Gluten Free Girl website just did a whole post on canning, complete with instructional videos.

http://glutenfreegirl.blogspot.com/

Good luck!
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 06:59 AM

I have both types of canners and each has its place. I use the water-bath canner for tomatoes and fruits. I think it gives a fresher product, but it is kind of cumbersome because of the large amount of water used. It can get quite heavy. I use the pressure canner for low acid foods such as green beans or meat. Its easier to use as it doesn't require that much water but you do have to keep your eye on it. I used to freeze more but I've got an eye on my energy consuption and am no longer using the huge electic hog in the basement. Last year, with my preesure canner, I canned turkey breast meat and broth. What a treat that was on a cold winter night to just heat it up and throw in some noodles. As close as I get to proccessed food! I also canned vege soup, pot roast in broth, and chili. This fall I will can more of these items as they go on sale. Another plus over freezing - you don't have to worry if the electricty goes out, which happens often in my area. The ball blue book is an excellent place to start. Good luck, nothing more satifying than seeing shelves of preserved food in the basement.

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 09:47 AM

View Postravenwoodglass, on Aug 14 2009, 06:48 AM, said:

Really good advice. The newer pressure cookers are better than the ones we had many years ago so do get a new one rather than a 'hand-me-down. When I was a chef we did everything from scratch and I used a pressure cooker for the beans for my refried beans. I got busy with something else in the kitchen and all of a sudden there was a big BOOM and cooked beans and the lid flew. The other employees got a big laugh out of my diving under the prep table and crawling shaking and quivering out of the kitchen covered in beans. I of course found it not a bit funny. Quite a mess to clean up and I refused to use that cooker ever again.


:lol: :blink: Sorry! And I thought exploding beans in the microwave was messy.
Thanks for the not getting a used one tip ;)
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 09:53 AM

You guys are great! Thanks for all the info...it's most helpful!!!!!
Can a pressure canner be used w/o the lid as a water bath canner?
Has anyone gotten sick from canning? My mom is worried about me canning...not me!

Thanks for the links too ;)
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 09:55 AM

Hi Purple--I dug this old thread up and thought it might be interesting for you to read.

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/index.ph...&hl=canning

You may have already seen it, but in case you didn't....... :D
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 10:01 AM

View Postpurple, on Aug 14 2009, 01:53 PM, said:

You guys are great! Thanks for all the info...it's most helpful!!!!!
Can a pressure canner be used w/o the lid as a water bath canner?
Has anyone gotten sick from canning? My mom is worried about me canning...not me!

Thanks for the links too ;)



I have not got sick yet. If something smells funny, is cloudy, looks funny, or you are just in doubt dont eat it! When processing it can be normal for things to discolor some and if the liquid does not cover everything sometimes even be mushy. Processing to long can make a mushy product too. The book I mentioned before has information about this too. I canned peaches, pears, and applesauce last year. Man did we enjoy them. It is a taste and freshness you can't get with store bought canned goods.(no can taste). This year I have canned kosher dill pickles and will be doing more of the other stuff too. I was hoping to can some tomatoes this year. I planted 18 plants in my flower gardens and not a ripe tomato yet! :angry: Last year I only had 4 plants and had tomatoes coming out of my ears. Everyone around here is complaining of similuar proplems with the tomatoes.
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 10:20 AM

So much to say, so I forget things. This sorta has something to do with canning, but you don't use a canner and it is really fun. Take widemouth pint jars and place on heavy baking tray. Spray the inside with non stick cooking spray. Fill about 1/2-2/3 full with your favorite pound cake recipe batter. (I have not tried this gluten free yet, but I don't see any reason why it would not work) Bake in oven until a toothpick inserted in middle indicates it is done. Pull out of oven, wipe off the rims of the jar and place on canning lid and ring to seal. Let cool. When the cake cools it will create a vacuum just like when you can and they will seal (you will probably hear the lids make a popping noise). They will last quite awhile. I used to make cloth covers for the tops and tags and give them away as gifts in baskets. Plus people are amazed you can have "cake in a jar"
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 01:30 PM

View PostRoda, on Aug 14 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

I have not got sick yet. If something smells funny, is cloudy, looks funny, or you are just in doubt dont eat it! When processing it can be normal for things to discolor some and if the liquid does not cover everything sometimes even be mushy. Processing to long can make a mushy product too. The book I mentioned before has information about this too. I canned peaches, pears, and applesauce last year. Man did we enjoy them. It is a taste and freshness you can't get with store bought canned goods.(no can taste). This year I have canned kosher dill pickles and will be doing more of the other stuff too. I was hoping to can some tomatoes this year. I planted 18 plants in my flower gardens and not a ripe tomato yet! :angry: Last year I only had 4 plants and had tomatoes coming out of my ears. Everyone around here is complaining of similuar proplems with the tomatoes.


I planted 13 tomato plants and we have had 2 deformed red ones, 1 baby roma and 2 cherries...most of my plants are heirloom. Others nearby don't have toms yet either. Next year I plan to plant some container toms to put on the porch. We had a cold and wet June this year, could have slowed them down. I never thought about canning applesauce before. I went for a walk this morning and picked a handful of wild green apples. Very tart but I thought they would make good pies...taste like tart grannies. I will let them grow some more. Thanks for all of your help :)
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 01:39 PM

View PostRoda, on Aug 14 2009, 11:20 AM, said:

So much to say, so I forget things. This sorta has something to do with canning, but you don't use a canner and it is really fun. Take widemouth pint jars and place on heavy baking tray. Spray the inside with non stick cooking spray. Fill about 1/2-2/3 full with your favorite pound cake recipe batter. (I have not tried this gluten free yet, but I don't see any reason why it would not work) Bake in oven until a toothpick inserted in middle indicates it is done. Pull out of oven, wipe off the rims of the jar and place on canning lid and ring to seal. Let cool. When the cake cools it will create a vacuum just like when you can and they will seal (you will probably hear the lids make a popping noise). They will last quite awhile. I used to make cloth covers for the tops and tags and give them away as gifts in baskets. Plus people are amazed you can have "cake in a jar"


Ya know, I read something about that once last year. They were sending them to our service peeps but I thought how are they sending glass jars, then I forgot all about it. I am not gluten-free so that sounds like a fun thing to try. My gluten-free dd LOVES angel food cake. So pound cake she doesn't have to make would be a great gift, esp. during strawberry season. Sounds like a good winter project to play with. I will need to find a gluten-free recipe for it. Thanks again and again!! ;)
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 01:43 PM

View Postjerseyangel, on Aug 14 2009, 10:55 AM, said:

Hi Purple--I dug this old thread up and thought it might be interesting for you to read.

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/index.ph...&hl=canning

You may have already seen it, but in case you didn't....... :D


Oh my gosh...thanks! It's as long as the Lorkas bread thread...whew. Before I start reading it I will get me out a notebook to take notes. Thanks jerseyangel!
There are gardening tips too!
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