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Posted 16 August 2009 - 03:43 PM

Im considering trying this product since I have some candida overgrowth. some of the ingredient labels say it contains casein but others dont. im severely dairy intolerant (even the lactose filler in a med will give me problems) - would this be safe? also is it gluten free?

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Endoscopy & blood panel all negative 12/09 after being strict w/ gluten free diet

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:41 PM

As far as I remember, one or more of the strains are bred on lactose, yet it's supposed to be lactose/casein free, but I'm not totally sure. I took it for a long while, and though I'm very sensitive and ingest no dairy whatsoever (can't even have fermented yogurt), I've been okay with it. And it has worked quite well. Otherwise, if you're looking for a good certainly non-dairy anti-candida remedy, caprylic acid has been very effective for me. Or perhaps, it might be worth trying them out and see what works the best for you.
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:33 AM

View PostjasonD2, on Aug 16 2009, 04:43 PM, said:

Im considering trying this product since I have some candida overgrowth. some of the ingredient labels say it contains casein but others dont. im severely dairy intolerant (even the lactose filler in a med will give me problems) - would this be safe? also is it gluten free?

Thanks


I used both caprylic acid and nystatin to fight candida overgrowth. Although caprylic acid is a natural herbal supplement (from coconut oil), it had the same initial side effects as Nystatin (which is a drug). Both nystatin and caprylic acid cause initial nausea and bloating. However those symptoms subside after about a week. I did not take the caprylic acid long enough to eliminate the candida. Both an earlier (before treatment) and later (after treatment) stool test showed I still had candida. So I decided to use nystatin to treat candida, because I could get nystatin through my HMO pharmacy at a very low price. I ended up taking nystatin for about 5 months. However, my last stool test showed absolutely NO candida.

I did not follow that very restrictive anticandida diet (no sweets except stevia, no fruit, yeasts, peanuts, limited grains, etc.), because I already have celiac disease and 6 other food allergy restrictions. However, I didn't eat many sweet foods (except fruit) while treating for candida. Nevertheless nystatin completely eliminated my candida problem.

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Gluten, dairy, soy, egg, cane sugar, vanilla and nutmeg free. Enterolab diagnosed gluten/casein intolerant 7/04; soy intolerant 8/07. ELISA test diagnosed egg/cane sugar IgG allergies 8/06; vanilla/nutmeg 8/06. 2006-10 diagnosed by DNA Microbial stool tests and successfully treated: Klebsiella, Enterobacter Cloaecae, Cryptosporidia, Candida, C-diff, Achromobacter, H. Pylori and Dientamoeba Fragilis. 6/10 Heidelberg capsule test diagnosed hypochloridia. Vitamin D deficiency, hypothyroiditis, hypochloridia and low white blood cells caused vulnerability to infections. I now take Betaine HCl, probiotics, Vitamin D, thyroid supplement, arabinogalactan and DHEA to improve immunity.
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 01:25 PM

Did u have to get your liver checked while on the Nystatin? I heard its very harsh on the liver
Endoscopy & blood panel all negative 12/09 after being strict w/ gluten free diet

As of 8/09 - Candida Overgrowth, C.difficile overgrowth, elevated fecal anti-gliadin, elevated putrefactive SCFA's

Developed severe lactose intolerance, IBS and food sensitivities in 02 after contracting Giardia from a river in Oregon

Had negative celiac blood work in 02

Elevated stool anti-gliadin Ab (21 with 10 being cutoff for normal) - 2008

Positive for DQ8- 2008

Tested high positive for egg, dairy, soy, ginger, mustard - 2008

Lactulose/Mannitol (leaky gut) test indicated slight intestinal permeability

Improved with gluten free diet but still have spastic constipation
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 02:31 PM

View PostjasonD2, on Aug 17 2009, 05:25 PM, said:

Did u have to get your liver checked while on the Nystatin? I heard its very harsh on the liver

Hi Jason- I was on Nystatin for 3-4 months and did NOT have to get my liver checked. It also worked very well.


When you posted, did you mean Theralac (not Threelac)? I have been on Theralac for years and it works great.....I've been on long-term antibiotics so I had a candida issue for awhile. Therelac has worked well for me but I can tolerate dairy.
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 03:26 PM

I just read a bunch of reviews on 3Lac and im seeing that this product actually contains pathogenic bacteria has made people very sick, so now im reluctant to try even though i ordered some. anyone know why this product is considered safe by the makers?
Endoscopy & blood panel all negative 12/09 after being strict w/ gluten free diet

As of 8/09 - Candida Overgrowth, C.difficile overgrowth, elevated fecal anti-gliadin, elevated putrefactive SCFA's

Developed severe lactose intolerance, IBS and food sensitivities in 02 after contracting Giardia from a river in Oregon

Had negative celiac blood work in 02

Elevated stool anti-gliadin Ab (21 with 10 being cutoff for normal) - 2008

Positive for DQ8- 2008

Tested high positive for egg, dairy, soy, ginger, mustard - 2008

Lactulose/Mannitol (leaky gut) test indicated slight intestinal permeability

Improved with gluten free diet but still have spastic constipation
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:16 PM

Jason,
Go to the bottom of the first link, and you'll find some rather detailed explanations on Threelac. The second one contains FAQ.

http://www.thefinchl...reelac-p-1.html
http://www.thefinchleyclinic.co.uk/nojavas...reelac_FAQs.htm
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Gluten free since nov 2008.
SCD diet/excl. all sugar&dairy since jan 2009. Finally improving!
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:45 PM

I finally got diagnosed with candida, and I've been on the fence about taking threelac ever since I found out. There's the whole debate of the bad bacteria, the one that becomes resistant to antibiotics. I've read an argument that the strain they use is "like one of twelve kids; just because some of the others are bad doesn't mean this one is." However, if the strain they use is the same bacteria minus the resistances, doesn't that just mean it could become resistant?

It's all very confusing, but for me it seems like if there's other options than those are the ones to go with, I've been on the very strict candida diet (only eating meats, veggies and eggs, and only specific ones of those categories at that) and taking Phytostan, which is some sort of herbal antimicrobial I got from my naturopath. Hopefully this regimen will do the trick!

Good luck to you.
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Posted 18 August 2009 - 01:43 PM

I contacted the company and there is tons of scientific evidence which says its fine and millions use it w/ no problems. I also heard that a disgruntled former employee started spreading rumors all over the web after she got fired. i ordered some and am gonna try it, but will start off very slowly
Endoscopy & blood panel all negative 12/09 after being strict w/ gluten free diet

As of 8/09 - Candida Overgrowth, C.difficile overgrowth, elevated fecal anti-gliadin, elevated putrefactive SCFA's

Developed severe lactose intolerance, IBS and food sensitivities in 02 after contracting Giardia from a river in Oregon

Had negative celiac blood work in 02

Elevated stool anti-gliadin Ab (21 with 10 being cutoff for normal) - 2008

Positive for DQ8- 2008

Tested high positive for egg, dairy, soy, ginger, mustard - 2008

Lactulose/Mannitol (leaky gut) test indicated slight intestinal permeability

Improved with gluten free diet but still have spastic constipation
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