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#1 RacerRex9727

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 12:33 PM

I have been unofficially diagnosed for 8 months now. The reason I say unofficially is because my GI doctor (the second best in the country) says that my blood tests come out negative as well as my brothers and my dad's. However, our symptoms are so bizarre and directly related to when we eat gluten he says there is no need for an endoscopy, it's pretty obvious we have celiac disease or some form of gluten intolerance.

But I react badly. It's driving me insane literally. Whenever I eat gluten, I become absolutely insane. I become depressed (sometimes suicidal), angry, irrational, and anti-social. I get afraid of being around people and I lock myself in my room. I get paranoid and scared over everything. I become certifiable. When I'm strictly off for a good week or so, I am pretty stable and act normal and functional.

My dad has celiac disease and he found out the same time as me. When he eats gluten, he becomes even more insane than me. He even gets violent at times. However, he's becoming much more strict with what he's eating so he's doing a better job at being gluten-free than I am. He is like a whole new person (unless he lapses and gets glutened again).

My brother now thinks he has this condition too. He's had several manic episodes as a teenager and now that he's 23 he got his behavior under control but he looks terrible like I do. We're all having trouble with uncontrollable swelling, bowel problems, severe head-pounding migraines, tingling/numb limbs, itching, and psychological instability. My dad's mother had major health problems too with swelling and being sick constantly. She was obsessed with being healthy even though she was anything but (her diet was terrible) and she was kind of unstable too. She never knew she might've had celiac disease, and she died without knowing. My doctor thinks her bone cancer was celiac disease related. This is such a ridiculous and stupid disease. Does anybody else have experiences like this?
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 01:54 PM

These can all be sympoms of celiac. My question to you is- Why would you ingest gluten if it causes such horrendous problems? My suggestion- lok at gluten as poison like I do, and stop eating it. I hope you see the gluten free light!
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Posted 04 September 2009 - 02:01 PM

My question to you is- Why would you ingest gluten if it causes such horrendous problems?



I agree! Stay away from it!!
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 10:16 AM

I have read that in studies done at mental hospitals, if the patients were taken off common allergens, 80% went into remission. Why the mental health people in this country keep pushing pills instead is beyond me. Be glad you have an honest practitioner helping you!

I too have noticed that one of the ways I have been affected by celiac is through personality changes (irritability, anxiety etc.) as well as spaciness, brain fog, confusion, constant short term memory lapses and even the occasional "vision"--i.e., seeing people or things that weren't actually there. I also had a racing heart.

The good news is that by avoiding gluten all that has gone away--though for me it has taken going off all trace gluten as well to get rid of all the symptoms plus taking co-enzyme b complex. I have to avoid co-enzyme b complex with sorbitol. So I take tablets instead from Country Life.

The myelin sheath covering my nerves was down 50% roughly 4 years ago.

So, yeah, its serious. And yes do avoid the gluten. If you can follow a simple diet of basic good food (meat, vegetables, roots, squash, fruit) and try staying off all grains and sugar for a while to really heal since gluten intolerance often leads to leaky gut and a host of other sensitivities that could also be messing with your brain etc.

Fermenting my own yogurt for 24 hours also helps me--provides pro-biotics I need to be healthy.

Hope this helps!

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 12:00 PM

Hi RacerRex,
If you do a google on "schizophrenia gluten" you will find lots of hits. Seems there is a connection is some cases, but not all by any means. I am not at all suggesting you have schizophrenia! I am just pointing out that there are some mental conditions that gluten is linked too. So, the way I figure it, if gluten can be linked to schizophrenia, it doesn't seem a far stretch to think gluen could cause other mental symptoms. Depression or excitability or other affects perhaps. You will see people talking about "brain fog" in the forum quite a bit. I know I get brain fog and short term memory loss with glutening. Gluten can do some pretty nasty stuff to people, especailly over the long term if it is ignored.

Gluen intolerance linked to schizophrenia

Findings from their latest research demonstrate that about 30% of people who suffer from schizophrenia cannot properly break down the proteins found in wheat, rye, and barley gluten. When these people eat gluten, they suffer from intestinal damage similar to that found in people with untreated celiac disease. Such patients "might also benefit from a gluten-free diet," according to senior researcher and genetics reader, Dr Jun Wei.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 06:55 PM

I also feel the same way if I accidentally eat gluten. It's terrible! I feel crazy, emotional, suicidal, tired, bloated, sick, and cry about everything. In fact, just recently, I was glutened and started crying in Carrabba's when the waitress brought me a salad that had a crouton sitting in the middle of it. I couldn't quit crying throughout the whole dinner, and I cried the whole way home.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 08:52 AM

I have been unofficially diagnosed for 8 months now. The reason I say unofficially is because my GI doctor (the second best in the country) says that my blood tests come out negative as well as my brothers and my dad's. However, our symptoms are so bizarre and directly related to when we eat gluten he says there is no need for an endoscopy, it's pretty obvious we have celiac disease or some form of gluten intolerance.

But I react badly. It's driving me insane literally. Whenever I eat gluten, I become absolutely insane. I become depressed (sometimes suicidal), angry, irrational, and anti-social. I get afraid of being around people and I lock myself in my room. I get paranoid and scared over everything. I become certifiable. When I'm strictly off for a good week or so, I am pretty stable and act normal and functional.

My dad has celiac disease and he found out the same time as me. When he eats gluten, he becomes even more insane than me. He even gets violent at times. However, he's becoming much more strict with what he's eating so he's doing a better job at being gluten-free than I am. He is like a whole new person (unless he lapses and gets glutened again).

My brother now thinks he has this condition too. He's had several manic episodes as a teenager and now that he's 23 he got his behavior under control but he looks terrible like I do. We're all having trouble with uncontrollable swelling, bowel problems, severe head-pounding migraines, tingling/numb limbs, itching, and psychological instability. My dad's mother had major health problems too with swelling and being sick constantly. She was obsessed with being healthy even though she was anything but (her diet was terrible) and she was kind of unstable too. She never knew she might've had celiac disease, and she died without knowing. My doctor thinks her bone cancer was celiac disease related. This is such a ridiculous and stupid disease. Does anybody else have experiences like this?

You may be a member of my tribe, people with Asperger's. It is recommended that we give up casein (ie all dairy) and soy as well. I just found that my almond milk has soy lecithin in it; this may explain transitory feelings of rage I get in the mornings (which are the only times I have the almond milk).

In general, I agree with all the replies before, especially that of Bea (yolo). Go with simple, simple foods. Chicken, vegetables, fruits, rice or potatoes, spiced with salt and pepper only. Don't buy anything prepared, because you'll run into preservatives and MSG, which can also cause problems. Cook for yourself (and for your dad, and for your brother if possible) until you're feeling more stable. And see an allergist as soon as you can, because some of these reactions might be caused by food allergies. Good luck!
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 09:25 PM

I also feel the same way if I accidentally eat gluten. It's terrible! I feel crazy, emotional, suicidal, tired, bloated, sick, and cry about everything. In fact, just recently, I was glutened and started crying in Carrabba's when the waitress brought me a salad that had a crouton sitting in the middle of it. I couldn't quit crying throughout the whole dinner, and I cried the whole way home.


Wow that is pretty intense!
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 09:29 PM

Hi RacerRex,
If you do a google on "schizophrenia gluten" you will find lots of hits. Seems there is a connection is some cases, but not all by any means. I am not at all suggesting you have schizophrenia! I am just pointing out that there are some mental conditions that gluten is linked too. So, the way I figure it, if gluten can be linked to schizophrenia, it doesn't seem a far stretch to think gluen could cause other mental symptoms. Depression or excitability or other affects perhaps. You will see people talking about "brain fog" in the forum quite a bit. I know I get brain fog and short term memory loss with glutening. Gluten can do some pretty nasty stuff to people, especailly over the long term if it is ignored.

Gluen intolerance linked to schizophrenia

Findings from their latest research demonstrate that about 30% of people who suffer from schizophrenia cannot properly break down the proteins found in wheat, rye, and barley gluten. When these people eat gluten, they suffer from intestinal damage similar to that found in people with untreated celiac disease. Such patients "might also benefit from a gluten-free diet," according to senior researcher and genetics reader, Dr Jun Wei.


I recently found out it was linked to autism, but I've never heard the schizophrenia link! Well, this makes me feel better because I now know my emotions are not real. I thought I was crazy for thinking the gluten caused my emotional upheaval, even though the emotions happen after I get glutened and last for 5 days.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 09:32 PM

I have read that in studies done at mental hospitals, if the patients were taken off common allergens, 80% went into remission. Why the mental health people in this country keep pushing pills instead is beyond me. Be glad you have an honest practitioner helping you!

I too have noticed that one of the ways I have been affected by celiac is through personality changes (irritability, anxiety etc.) as well as spaciness, brain fog, confusion, constant short term memory lapses and even the occasional "vision"--i.e., seeing people or things that weren't actually there. I also had a racing heart.

The good news is that by avoiding gluten all that has gone away--though for me it has taken going off all trace gluten as well to get rid of all the symptoms plus taking co-enzyme b complex. I have to avoid co-enzyme b complex with sorbitol. So I take tablets instead from Country Life.

The myelin sheath covering my nerves was down 50% roughly 4 years ago.

So, yeah, its serious. And yes do avoid the gluten. If you can follow a simple diet of basic good food (meat, vegetables, roots, squash, fruit) and try staying off all grains and sugar for a while to really heal since gluten intolerance often leads to leaky gut and a host of other sensitivities that could also be messing with your brain etc.

Fermenting my own yogurt for 24 hours also helps me--provides pro-biotics I need to be healthy.

Hope this helps!

Bea


Wow thanks! It's helping me a lot to realize I'm not the only extreme case.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 07:08 PM

I have been unofficially diagnosed for 8 months now. The reason I say unofficially is because my GI doctor (the second best in the country) says that my blood tests come out negative as well as my brothers and my dad's. However, our symptoms are so bizarre and directly related to when we eat gluten he says there is no need for an endoscopy, it's pretty obvious we have celiac disease or some form of gluten intolerance.

But I react badly. It's driving me insane literally. Whenever I eat gluten, I become absolutely insane. I become depressed (sometimes suicidal), angry, irrational, and anti-social. I get afraid of being around people and I lock myself in my room. I get paranoid and scared over everything. I become certifiable. When I'm strictly off for a good week or so, I am pretty stable and act normal and functional.

My dad has celiac disease and he found out the same time as me. When he eats gluten, he becomes even more insane than me. He even gets violent at times. However, he's becoming much more strict with what he's eating so he's doing a better job at being gluten-free than I am. He is like a whole new person (unless he lapses and gets glutened again).

My brother now thinks he has this condition too. He's had several manic episodes as a teenager and now that he's 23 he got his behavior under control but he looks terrible like I do. We're all having trouble with uncontrollable swelling, bowel problems, severe head-pounding migraines, tingling/numb limbs, itching, and psychological instability. My dad's mother had major health problems too with swelling and being sick constantly. She was obsessed with being healthy even though she was anything but (her diet was terrible) and she was kind of unstable too. She never knew she might've had celiac disease, and she died without knowing. My doctor thinks her bone cancer was celiac disease related. This is such a ridiculous and stupid disease. Does anybody else have experiences like this?



Oh good Lord. Stay away from the gluten then, the blood tests be damned! If it makes you feel any better, that's what I did. I had a blood test turn out negative, as well as another test (although never the biopsy). And I just got so despairing over my painful "attacks" that I decided to get rid of gluten, just to see. I was getting hopeless. And whatdyaknow, all the digestive problems went away.

So yeah. If you can directly correlate feeling so bad with the gluten, I say definitely eliminate it, even if the blood test was negative. I get hopeless and extremely irritable when "it" is happening to me, but I figure it was because I was in such physical pain and turmoil that I was extra-edgy. You know, if someone looked at me sideways during one of my gluten pain/digestive 'attacks', I'd want to bite their throat. But again, I figured it was just because I was in pain and frustration. Who knows, maybe it is more.
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