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Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)
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Wow, gobbie, what do you eat?

Here is a link to the breaking the vicious cycle website that will give you info on the SCD, including the leagl foods list:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

Thank you so much for the link, checking it out now.

What do I eat.. I know :0

My menu is always the same and very limited if I want to look after my health.

I can only eat a certain amount of varied fresh vegetables and fruits.

Ofcourse not all the kinds as I still have few allergies even to fresh stuff like nuts lol.

Things are alright as long as I am eating at home.

The major problem is dining out cos I can't eat anything lol.

Hard to socialise that way..

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May I ask what IMO is?

It means "In my opinion."
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It means "In my opinion."

Oh, thank you!

lol.

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Hi, I've been following this thread for quite a while and it helped me finally start the SCD Diet.

I can't say enough about this diet, I have been on it since July of 09. It's not fun at all, but it is so worth it! The gluten-free diet never did the trick and after 7 days on this diet I was feeling like a normal person for once...

I just got the courage to finally sign up to tell everyone that this diet is the one thing that finally allowed me to live a "normal" life and have some decent digestion and health. So I wanted to pass along a couple resources I used to get started last summer (because I know it is tough after reading BTVC... it's sorta confusing).

pecanbread.com is a great resource that helped me answer many questions about the diet, they have been around forever and are more geared towards parents of autistic children, but either way the information is the same.

scdlifestyle.com is a newer community that has a blog and if you look on the sidebar you can download a free chapter from their book on how to start the SCD diet in 24 hours, which is awesome for helping you get started right away. Seems like they have some decent stuff and know what there talking about. Guy has Celiac too!

scddiet.org has some awesome recipes for when you are further down the road on the diet, plus it's a great resource to find some specialty items that are local to your area.

Anyways, I hope this helps someone finally start feeling better like I did. If you have any questions about the diet or anything send me a message or post on this thread, I will be glad to help if I can.

Good luck!

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Hi, this is my first post! I've just spent a good week researching SCD like crazy and I think I'm finally ready to tackle the diet, slowly but surely. I've been going back and forth about it, my symptoms are not as severe with most of the people I read about, but I have had bloating and gas filling up my stomach every time I eat, no matter what I eat for almost 2 years, and I know I need to clear out my system and heal (and get rid of those nasty grains and starches). I also was very apprehensive at first, because over the past year I have lost about 15 pounds (I was not overweight) so I was scared that I would get to under 80 pounds (i'm 4'11 and female) with the diet. So the question was - should I do the intro and go through the stages slowly or not? I decided that yes, my body needs a reboot, and especially after reading this site that you recommended:

scdlifestyle.com is a newer community that has a blog and if you look on the sidebar you can download a free chapter from their book on how to start the SCD diet in 24 hours, which is awesome for helping you get started right away. Seems like they have some decent stuff and know what there talking about. Guy has Celiac too!

I understand that for true healing to take place I should follow their advice about progressing through the stages very slowly. It seems like the e-book has a lot of great info, and the free chapter kind of sucked me in. Have you downloaded the whole e-book? I'm very tempted to buy it, since it gives a lot of step by step info about how to progress through stages, how to cook food, etc. I know a lot of people say, do whatever is best for you, but I need structure damnit! Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any success following the advice of the book and would it be worth it to purchase it?

I'm so happy to be finally part of the conversation, I've been reading this forum for a week straight and only got up to page 70! Lots of great people, very interesting info!

~Ellen

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I've jumped around in this topic, but don't see the answer to this: It seems that there's quite a bit of sugar involved in the diet - even though it's not from simple carbs. The diet really pushes fruit and juice, so I'm worried about how much "crashing" I'll do if I decide to commit to the diet. You know, eat a lot of -ose, then crash a few hours later so I need to eat more -ose. Has anyone had this happen or know of anywhere that I can read about this?

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Hi, I've been following this thread for quite a while and it helped me finally start the SCD Diet.

I can't say enough about this diet, I have been on it since July of 09. It's not fun at all, but it is so worth it! The gluten-free diet never did the trick and after 7 days on this diet I was feeling like a normal person for once...

I just got the courage to finally sign up to tell everyone that this diet is the one thing that finally allowed me to live a "normal" life and have some decent digestion and health. So I wanted to pass along a couple resources I used to get started last summer (because I know it is tough after reading BTVC... it's sorta confusing).

pecanbread.com is a great resource that helped me answer many questions about the diet, they have been around forever and are more geared towards parents of autistic children, but either way the information is the same.

scdlifestyle.com is a newer community that has a blog and if you look on the sidebar you can download a free chapter from their book on how to start the SCD diet in 24 hours, which is awesome for helping you get started right away. Seems like they have some decent stuff and know what there talking about. Guy has Celiac too!

scddiet.org has some awesome recipes for when you are further down the road on the diet, plus it's a great resource to find some specialty items that are local to your area.

Anyways, I hope this helps someone finally start feeling better like I did. If you have any questions about the diet or anything send me a message or post on this thread, I will be glad to help if I can.

Good luck!

I have been following the SCD for ten years and probably will follow it for life. I have been able to add a few things after all this time but don't do it often. Please be aware the blog you mention is written by people who have not been on the SCD diet for a long time and all the information may not be applicable to a strict version of SCD. The gentlemen have written a book which claims to tell you what Elaine Gottschall left out. Elaine researched the SCD for nearly four decades and it is presumptuous to assume one knows what she left out. The authors certainly seem very enthused and sincere and deserve praise for their extensive and interesting articles. If you want to verify authenticity on SCD foods supplements and instructions, refer to:

www,breakingtheviciouscycle.info

www.pecanbread.com

Some of the SCDLifestyle information has been gleaned from these two websites above in addition to the book on SCD, "Breaking the Vicious Cycle." Use extreme caution with store bought foods and know you are using them at your own risk even if the ingredients have been verified.

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I've jumped around in this topic, but don't see the answer to this: It seems that there's quite a bit of sugar involved in the diet - even though it's not from simple carbs. The diet really pushes fruit and juice, so I'm worried about how much "crashing" I'll do if I decide to commit to the diet. You know, eat a lot of -ose, then crash a few hours later so I need to eat more -ose. Has anyone had this happen or know of anywhere that I can read about this?

http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

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Hi there,

just wondering if anyone has had success going off of the diet? I believe in its validity but don't want to restrict myself forever.

Any advice would be appreciated!

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I have been on 100% SCD doing the stages since august 09.

Now I am able to tolerate 8 vegetable (boiled to death..) and lean meat + white fish :)

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It looks like no one has been on this thread for a while, but I was hoping that maybe some of you who have tried the SCD would tell your story. That is if it worked for you or not and if you have any advice about it.

I am going to buy the book today and I think this is the most hopeful thing I have come across since I have not had any improvement from going gluten free.

I was diagnosed with Celiac November 2009 and have been gluten free for 11 months.

Along with taking gluten out of my diet I have also taken out many many other food groups including all the top problematic ones.

Thanks for any replies!

~Sarah

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I am wondering if this diet helps Candida issues and if not, how I can also kill the Candida while on the SCD diet? Anyone have experience with this?

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Hello, I am new here. My daughter has recently become ill with what we will only be able to assume is (partly) Celiac or severe gluten intolerance. Prior to July, she was a fairly healthy (though very thin) child (age 10), with her only major complaint over the years being horrible canker sores that would take over her mouth on a regular basis (I have always suffered them as well, as did my father).

In July she suddenly became very ill with many digestive symptoms. To make the long story short, we know that she carried the HLA DQ-2 and HLA DQ-1 alleles, and that she now reacts violently to gluten with digestive symptoms as well as horrible migraines and peripheral neuropathy.

She is 100% gluten-free and will remain so, so we decided to forgo biopsy as it seems to be a risk with little benefit, since she clearly needs to be gluten-free either way.

The only other thing we know is that she shows evidence of a prior EBV infection, perhaps that was what started this whole mess?

On to my point in posting on this thread. I've read quite a bit about GAPS and SCD over the months she has been sick (she is not completely better, though much improved on the gluten-free diet).

What I am wondering, as we consider this option and discuss going through such a diet with her- has anyone here actually been "cured" of celiac disease with this diet? I understand that by nature these diets are gluten-free and very easy on the digestive system, so I understand that she may well benefit from the diet in making her "all better", but I am curious about the idea that after a couple of years, perhaps she might be able to all things, simply being sure grains are "properly prepared" and a small part of her diet, etc.

I'd welcome any thoughts on this, thank you for your time.

~Patty

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I can tell you from my experience -- this WORKS. completely, completely works. I have Celiac and IC... and every day I would experience sharp, jolting pain in my abdomen... like someone was taking a knife to it and scratching. For over a year, I've been Gluten free and it's helped but not insanely... I've always been waiting for the symptoms to go away while eating cereals and grains and flax and roots.. all kinds of foods I thought I shouldn't be suspicious of.

I'm just beginning out on this... but anything to make the pain go away.. I don't mind at all being on this for life. It's not life unless you're healthy! And I've never had more energy, clarity, ease within my body than on this diet. If you are thinking about... you should definitely try it!!! :)

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I can tell you from my experience -- this WORKS. completely, completely works. I have Celiac and IC... and every day I would experience sharp, jolting pain in my abdomen... like someone was taking a knife to it and scratching. For over a year, I've been Gluten free and it's helped but not insanely... I've always been waiting for the symptoms to go away while eating cereals and grains and flax and roots.. all kinds of foods I thought I shouldn't be suspicious of.

I'm just beginning out on this... but anything to make the pain go away.. I don't mind at all being on this for life. It's not life unless you're healthy! And I've never had more energy, clarity, ease within my body than on this diet. If you are thinking about... you should definitely try it!!! :)

Happy to hear that you're feeling better. I had the same reaction! I didn't have to stay on the diet forever. I started adding other foods back in at about 11 months. I'm still mostly SCD, but not completely. I feel great now!

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