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#1 User is offline   willabec 

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 05:34 AM

does anyone out there know if you can have Celiac Disease as well as IBS???
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Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:12 PM

View Postwillabec, on Oct 18 2009, 02:34 AM, said:

does anyone out there know if you can have Celiac Disease as well as IBS???


There has been much discussion on here about IBS ("I Be Stumped") and whether or not it is a real diagnosis.
Here is an excerpt from one study done on irritable bowel syndrome:

"Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a functional disorder of the gastrointestinal tract characterized by recurrent episodes of abdominal pain or discomfort along with changes in frequency or consistency of the stool in the absence of an organic etiology.
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In conclusion, the diagnosis of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is currently based on symptomatic criteria that exclude other conditions affecting the gastrointestinal tract, such as celiac disease, food allergies, and infections. "

Applying Case Definition Criteria to Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Steven H. Yale, MD, A. Kenneth Musana, MD, Amy Kieke, PhD, Jennifer Hayes, MS, Ingrid Glurich, PhD and Po-Huang Chyou, PhD (2008)

This would seem to answer your question with a "no". However, it is just one study.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 07:04 AM

Hi there,

I must disagree.
I'm celiac with loads of problems (see other post) but havent got the IBS, however, my sister whos also celiac did get the diagnosis IBS.

/Karl

View Postmushroom, on Oct 17 2009, 12:12 PM, said:

There has been much discussion on here about IBS ("I Be Stumped") and whether or not it is a real diagnosis.
Here is an excerpt from one study done on irritable bowel syndrome:

"Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a functional disorder of the gastrointestinal tract characterized by recurrent episodes of abdominal pain or discomfort along with changes in frequency or consistency of the stool in the absence of an organic etiology.
...

In conclusion, the diagnosis of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is currently based on symptomatic criteria that exclude other conditions affecting the gastrointestinal tract, such as celiac disease, food allergies, and infections. "

Applying Case Definition Criteria to Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Steven H. Yale, MD, A. Kenneth Musana, MD, Amy Kieke, PhD, Jennifer Hayes, MS, Ingrid Glurich, PhD and Po-Huang Chyou, PhD (2008)

This would seem to answer your question with a "no". However, it is just one study.

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:35 AM

Most celiacs and gluten intolerants who have gastrointestinal problems have, at some point, been diagnosed with IBS. The question is whether or not this diagnosis means anything;
Neroli


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"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"

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Lactose free 1990
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Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
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Legume free March 2010
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 11:11 AM

View Postwillabec, on Oct 17 2009, 07:34 AM, said:

does anyone out there know if you can have Celiac Disease as well as IBS???


Well it seems to me this questions can be answered by looking at your symptoms. I know when I get “glutened” (accidentally eat something with a little gluten or eat something that was cross contaminated) my symptoms that follow would lead a doctor right to IBS, and in fact they did. Just like most people with celiac I was diagnosed with IBS first.

Now the question is, do your irritable bowl symptoms occur when you are 100% not glutened (For me this wouldn’t be for several days after a glutening). If your IBS symptoms are just when you ingest gluten then I would say your problem is just celiac.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 12:43 PM

Chalk me up as another with a diagnosis of IBS before Celiac.

I agree wholeheartedly; when I get glutened, my gastro symptoms would be the textbook definition of "IBS". I put this acronym in quotes because I think that it is an umbrella term - I wish the doctor that had diagnosed me with IBS at five years old would have dug a little deeper and found celiac. Instead, I had to suffer until I was 21.
Monica

dx celiac disease- November 1, 2008
dairy/casein free (much to my chagrin) for good- September 1, 2010
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