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I've read a few different things - I had a a reaction earlier and have definitely eaten something with caramel coloring in it. is caramel coloring gluten-free or not?
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Caramel Coloring
is it or isn't it?
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:48 PM
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 10:00 PM
I'm also reading mixed reviews about vinegar, if anyone can help with that.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:17 AM
In the U.S., caramel coloring is almost always made from corn. If it were to be made from wheat, wheat would have to be listed on the ingredient label since it is a "top 8". So, unless the ingredients say wheat, caramel coloring is gluten-free.
Vinegars vary. White vinegar is corn-derived so should be gluten-free. Cider vinegar is apple-derived so should be gluten-free. Malt vinegar has malted barley so it is NOT gluten-free. Some say the distillation process kills off the proteins, but my gastro doc, who is also celiac, said an absolute "NO!" to malt vinegar in the celiac diet.
Some of the discrepancy and confusion as to the gluten-free status of many foods arises from the fact that in the U.S., gluten-free foods don't have to be free-of-gluten. A food only has to be less than 10ppm (parts per million) of gluten content to be considered gluten-free.
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Vinegars vary. White vinegar is corn-derived so should be gluten-free. Cider vinegar is apple-derived so should be gluten-free. Malt vinegar has malted barley so it is NOT gluten-free. Some say the distillation process kills off the proteins, but my gastro doc, who is also celiac, said an absolute "NO!" to malt vinegar in the celiac diet.
Some of the discrepancy and confusion as to the gluten-free status of many foods arises from the fact that in the U.S., gluten-free foods don't have to be free-of-gluten. A food only has to be less than 10ppm (parts per million) of gluten content to be considered gluten-free.
Michelle
Western Washington State
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 08:52 AM
In the U.S. you will not find caramel coloring with gluten. In 8 years, I've never seen it.
Distilled vinegar is gluten-free. "Vinegar" is distilled vinegar and is gluten-free. Cider vinegar is gluten-free.
"Some say the distillation process kills off the proteins, but my gastro doc, who is also celiac, said an absolute "NO!" to malt vinegar in the celiac diet."
You are confused. I don't know of a single person with celiac disease or any celiac disease expert who says malt vinegar is gluten-free. Malt vinegar is NOT distilled and is most definitely not gluten-free.
richard
Distilled vinegar is gluten-free. "Vinegar" is distilled vinegar and is gluten-free. Cider vinegar is gluten-free.
"Some say the distillation process kills off the proteins, but my gastro doc, who is also celiac, said an absolute "NO!" to malt vinegar in the celiac diet."
You are confused. I don't know of a single person with celiac disease or any celiac disease expert who says malt vinegar is gluten-free. Malt vinegar is NOT distilled and is most definitely not gluten-free.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 12:01 PM
The following is from the FDA website. Caramel coloring can be made from malt (barley). That would not have to be declared on the label. How often it is I don't know. The gluten would likely be in extremely small amounts but someone who is supersensitive might have issues.
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh...ch.cfm?fr=73.85
(a)Identity. (1) The color additive caramel is the dark-brown liquid or solid material resulting from the carefully controlled heat treatment of the following food-grade carbohydrates:
Dextrose.
Invert sugar.
Lactose.
Malt sirup.
Molasses.
Starch hydrolysates and fractions thereof.
Sucrose.
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh...ch.cfm?fr=73.85
(a)Identity. (1) The color additive caramel is the dark-brown liquid or solid material resulting from the carefully controlled heat treatment of the following food-grade carbohydrates:
Dextrose.
Invert sugar.
Lactose.
Malt sirup.
Molasses.
Starch hydrolysates and fractions thereof.
Sucrose.
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"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)
celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007
Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15
Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom
Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007
Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303
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Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 07:16 AM
In 8 years I have yet to hear of anybody who has found caramel coloring with gluten. Most celiac disease experts and organizations now consider caramel coloring safe, at least in the U.S. I guess it's a personal decision, but it's just not an ingredient I worry about any more.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:53 AM
Article on caramel color and celiacs, a good read:
http://www.diet.com/dietblogs/read_blog.ph...&blid=17069
She agrees with you, lovgrov.
Nothing to worry about from caramel color.
http://www.diet.com/dietblogs/read_blog.ph...&blid=17069
She agrees with you, lovgrov.
Nothing to worry about from caramel color.
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