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Posted 15 November 2009 - 12:20 PM
I am boycotting soy today and I am currently with out bloat and gas issues. If this is my current problem for the last 2 weeks, what do i eat now? are there sites i can check out that have useful info as to what i can eat? I was off dairy before i went off gluten so it's not dairy. My calcuim with vit d has soy...what should i change to? what milk is best, i used almond breeze but it has soy:( HELP PLEASE my 'good karma organic rice divine' ice cream has soy
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Posted 15 November 2009 - 12:25 PM
Start with boycotting soy protein, and large amounts of soy oil. This would mean soy lecithin, and small amounts of soy oil (as in packaged salad dressings) would be OK. If that doesn't work, then you can start stressing about what to cut out.
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Posted 15 November 2009 - 01:14 PM
Hi Marsha,
I am gluten, dairy and soy-free, plus a few others. My daughter is corn, dairy and gluten-free. For milk and ice cream products, I buy So Delicious brand. They have Coconut Milk beverage, sold in the refrigerated case in half gallon cartons. They also have Coconut Milk Kefir and coffee creamer in the refrigerated case. They are all excellent - and gluten, dairy and soy free. I most often buy the unsweetened coconut milk beverage as a regular milk replacement because normal cow's milk isn't sweetened so I think it is a better replacement. If a recipe calls for vanilla milk, I'll buy that flavor. It is the only "milk" I buy for everyone in the house, dairy-free or not. They make Coconut Milk yogurt and ice creams as well. A couple of flavors of the ice cream aren't safe if you cut out soy lecithan too, but the info is found on their website here: http://bit.ly/34IBGU
There are brand that offer soy-free supplements. The brand of calcium and Vitamin D I take is NOW. They are free of sugar, starch, salt, yeast, wheat, gluten, corn, soy, milk, egg, shellfish and preservatives - and I can buy them locally at 3 or 4 different health food stores and pharmacies. (And I am in a small town/rural area.)
Cutting out soy does limit the diet even further for a celiac, but I cook most stuff from scratch anyway with our list of avoidances here, so at home, it isn't as hard. Going out to eat is almost non-existent for us with the exception of ordering a baked potato or dry salad and taking our own salad dressing and margarine.
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Daughter: corn/dairy/gluten-free
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Posted 15 November 2009 - 06:46 PM
frustrated09, on Nov 15 2009, 01:20 PM, said:
I am boycotting soy today and I am currently with out bloat and gas issues. If this is my current problem for the last 2 weeks, what do i eat now? are there sites i can check out that have useful info as to what i can eat? I was off dairy before i went off gluten so it's not dairy. My calcuim with vit d has soy...what should i change to? what milk is best, i used almond breeze but it has soy:( HELP PLEASE my 'good karma organic rice divine' ice cream has soy
Marsha
-self diagnosed gluten/dairy intolerant.
Almost all of Country Life's supplements are gluten/dairy/soy-free (and several other things-free, too, but those are the ones I look for). As for dairy substitutes, Pacific brand almond milk is the only almond milk I've found that doesn't contain soy lecithin. Pacific's hazelnut milk is also good, and their hemp milk is to die for! (The hemp milk is new, so it's not as widely carried as their other milks yet, but Whole Foods has it around here.)
Good luck! I feel your pain; I gave up soy about a year after gluten and dairy, and it's by far the hardest of the three to avoid. (Especially if even the oil and lecithin bother you, as they do me.) But it's possible; it just takes some detective work to find good alternatives!
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Posted 15 November 2009 - 08:38 PM
jnclelland, on Nov 16 2009, 03:46 PM, said:
I gave up soy about a year after gluten and dairy, and it's by far the hardest of the three to avoid. (Especially if even the oil and lecithin bother you, as they do me.) But it's possible; it just takes some detective work to find good alternatives!
You said a mouthful there Jeanne!. I feel like Sherlock Holmes with my spyglass  People say, "but it's gluten free!" and you say, well, I assume that, it's just that I have to find the corn and the soy and the ??unspecified sometimes lecithin, and the potato starch and the citric acid and the peppers and tomatoes  . The good news is that after 18 months off soy I ended up buying the wrong cookies and got chocolate ones with soy lecithin in them. I thought, what the heck, I might as well see if I am still intolerant of that. So far, so good, no itchies or welts or rashes. No, I am not going to push my luck with soy
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 03:30 AM
Luigis' Italian Ice is an alternative to ice cream you could try.
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Posted 16 November 2009 - 10:09 AM
I'm going to reiterate what Jestgar said - the majority of people who cannot tolerate soy, generally *can* tolerate small quantities of soy derivatives that do not (generally) contain soy protein. So, soy lecithin as an ingredient or small quantities of soy oil. Of course, you want to be aware of whether or not those levels are still too high for you, but knowing if you have the option of including those in your diet makes a HUGE difference, and is worth finding out.
Find a health food store (or really well stocked pharmacy or supplement store) and go read the labels. Lots of vitamins of many kinds are soy free (though I don't know about gummy-types  ). (It's worth noting that not all of a single brand will be soy free - Rainbow Light makes a couple of the vitamins I take; some are soy free, some are not.)
Otherwise, it's a lot of "going back to from scratch" (which may mean getting creative with meals like breakfast, but fried rice is pretty easy to make, and you don't actually have to use any soy sauce if you don't want to  . Then slowly finding the alternatives you can use. (Might be an "opportunity" to try making your own nut milk, if you're still avoiding dairy.  )
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 11:20 AM
frustrated09, on Nov 15 2009, 12:20 PM, said:
I am boycotting soy today and I am currently with out bloat and gas issues. If this is my current problem for the last 2 weeks, what do i eat now? are there sites i can check out that have useful info as to what i can eat? I was off dairy before i went off gluten so it's not dairy. My calcuim with vit d has soy...what should i change to? what milk is best, i used almond breeze but it has soy:( HELP PLEASE my 'good karma organic rice divine' ice cream has soy
Marsha
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Marsha...I can certainly relate. I'm six months pregnant. Goin gluten free was hard but then when I found out about my other food allergies the search began and I still struggle. I can't have gluten, soy, eggs , casien, tomatoes and potatoes and almonds. Potatoe, tomatoes, and almonds I tested as low reactive so I was told to stay away for a month or so and re-introduce. Eggs, soy, and casien for six months then retry. You can get an IgG delayed food allergy test. For me I had supected eggs and soy on my own and really just needed some confirmation......though tests aren't alway accurate. I would give it a try. It was 126 dollars and it was through US BioTek in Seattle. They have a website...check it out....you don't need a doctor to do it. Regular docs don't really believe in it or don't know about it but a naturopath doc would. Now for almond milk you can do Pacific natural foods they have almond milk without soy. Not as thick as almond breeze but thats because of the soy lethicin. Rice milk is another one. Coconut milk is good too...there is one brand called So Delicious...try the vanilla flavor. I get these at Fred Meyers. There is hemp milk, cashew milk all kinds of nut milks...you can even make your own with nuts and water and then strain. Recipes are on the web. Now for dairy....butter that was an issue as all butter subs have soy in them. Someone on this site recommend Ghee which is clarified butter so when all milk fats and protien sink to the buttom people who are latose and casien intolerant can eat it safely. The brand I bought is Purity Farms Organic ghee and I got it at my local food co-op they should carry it at any natural foods store or you can get it on amazon or make your own or sometimes stores that carry Indian foods will have it. I can't even have mayo because of the eggs or veganaise because that has soy. I make my own ranch dressing which is made from olive oil and white beans and tons of garlic and spices and you know what its darn good too. Good luck to you and know that a lot of these food intolerance can be temporary until our bodies heal from all that gluten. No advise on the ice cream front...sorry.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:32 PM
mushroom, on Nov 15 2009, 09:38 PM, said:
You said a mouthful there Jeanne!. I feel like Sherlock Holmes with my spyglass  People say, "but it's gluten free!" and you say, well, I assume that, it's just that I have to find the corn and the soy and the ??unspecified sometimes lecithin, and the potato starch and the citric acid and the peppers and tomatoes  . The good news is that after 18 months off soy I ended up buying the wrong cookies and got chocolate ones with soy lecithin in them. I thought, what the heck, I might as well see if I am still intolerant of that. So far, so good, no itchies or welts or rashes. No, I am not going to push my luck with soy 
You have given me some hope here! Presently soy lecithin bothers me. My G.I. told me that I MAYBE able to add back soy oil and lecithin later but never the Soy Protein.
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 12:35 PM
So Delicious also makes a yummy soy, dairy, and gluten free ice cream!
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 08:07 PM
I'm dairy, soy, and gluten free, but like someone else said, I can have *small* amounts of soy lecithin. Don't ask me what my limit is, but I've clearly hit it today--I appear to have crashed into the barrier somewhere around the less than a teaspoon of soy lecithin level. (It could also be a reaction to goat's cheese, which I've never had a problem with before.)
Someone mentioned butter---I can't even trust ghee, so I use Spectrum's palm oil shortening. When I really need butter flavor in something...I cheat and use "imitation butter flavor".
And oh my, So Delicious's coconut ice cream is awesome. I like Coconut Bliss's flavors better, but not by much. (And So Delicious is just plain easier to find, not gonna lie. And they have chocolate chip cookie dough that is gluten, dairy, and all-but-soy-lecithin free.)
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Posted 17 November 2009 - 08:08 PM
thanks everyone. So is it the soy protein that is causing the problem? I haven't been able to find anything much online like I could for gluten. I'm cutting out all versions of soy and will try again someday. I just wanna feel good and have energy. I really miss my starbucks drink. anyone know what drinks are without gluten, dairy, and soy at starbucks or similar places?
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 09:29 AM
frustrated09, on Nov 17 2009, 08:08 PM, said:
thanks everyone. So is it the soy protein that is causing the problem? I haven't been able to find anything much online like I could for gluten. I'm cutting out all versions of soy and will try again someday. I just wanna feel good and have energy. I really miss my starbucks drink. anyone know what drinks are without gluten, dairy, and soy at starbucks or similar places?
Marsha
I'm from an area with lots of small coffee carts, so I found one that stocked rice milk and stayed there. My sister works at Starbucks, and we figured out the only way for me to get something there was to take benedryl and hope for the best.
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Posted 18 November 2009 - 09:46 AM
Hi Everyone,
I am new to this site but have been feeling so overwhelmed over the last 2 months. I was having a lot of intestinal issues and got tested for food intolerances. Discovered that corn is my most severe allergy, along with eggs, gluten, and dairy being fairly intolerant. I also have mild intolerances to soy & rice!! But talk about hard to find alternatives to wheat and corn without replacing them with soybean or rice products. It has been quite a journey. I have lost 20 lbs. and still struggle with what to eat. I am currently on a grain free diet. I am amazed at how much of our diet has corn in it!!! I am looking to connect with other people who have corn intolerances/allergies. I think it might help to talk to other people going through this. I wish there were more options for us. I can find lots of gluten free products but they still contain some form of corn usually (maltodextrin, dextrose, citric acid, caramel colorings, and natural flavors- all contain corn!!!) Even fruit is coated with a waxy layer that contains corn!
I'm also interested in finding cheese that won't bug me? Any of you dairy intolerant people find something you can eat?
I'm getting especially sad with the holidays approaching. I love to bake and will miss being able to eat my christmas cookies, as well, as enjoying the goodies at parties. This is very new, as I have only adjusted my eating for about 10 weeks. So i am still mourning the way I used to eat. Especially since I am still cooking for my family and seeing them enjoy the stuff I used to. I do feel a lot better but I still can't help but be mad that my body can't digest things like a normal person!
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