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Romans, Chapter 14 (from The Bible)


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#16 psawyer

 
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Posted 16 June 2005 - 06:32 PM

In Romans 14:14-17, the link to Leviticus 11 is obvious, but Paul the apostle does not restrict his message solely to that. A much broader interpretation is, I believe, equally valid: You are not judged by what you do or do not eat; judge not another by what they do or do not eat.

In the King James version, Romans 14:14 reads:

"I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean."
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 12:46 PM

"Unleavened" means no yeast or baking powder, nothing to make it light and fluffy. Leavening is not in regards to what grain is used for flour. I do not believe that God wants me to make myself ill. I believe that the purpose of the Lord's Supper (communion) is to actually sit still and remember the sacrifice that Christ made for my soul. The bread and wine are symbols, and meant to remind me to be still and remember. So many people, not just Catholics, place too much meaning in the taking of the bread and wine, in my opinion, when it is the condition of the heart that matters the most.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:27 PM

Anyone read da vinci code? -- catch the part about food alergy death?
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 07:12 AM

I tend to oversimplify things, but I believe that God made me, I have celiac disease, and God doesn't make mistakes. I think there is a reason for everything in our lives, even if we aren't quite sure what it is.
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 01:40 PM

I think there is a reason for everything in our lives, even if we aren't quite sure what it is.

That's my philosophy, too. We're mere mortals and so who are we to question the whys?
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 02:27 PM

Anyone read da vinci code? -- catch the part about food alergy death?



No where was that part? I totally missed it....
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 02:32 AM

It's funny that someone mentioned canabalism in prior post. One of the early church father councils, I don't recall which one (like Nicene) the men on the council split over the concept over transubstantiation. One group regarded it was canabalism and rejected it. But the group who promoted it obviously won.

Culturally, in Jesus' time his companions would have been grossed out at the Last Supper if they thought he meant his REAL body and blood; one can extract this from the passage of the Last Supper in the Bible as his disciples knew he was speaking in figurative terms as canabalism was sinful (taboo) and prohibited in the Jewish faith. If they felt he was speaking literally they would have thought he was crazy.

Unfortunately, the communion wafer still contains wheat after it is sanctified during the Mass and that proof is made by the celiacs themselves.

My contention is that God created all grains and who are we to reject rice over wheat. We are simple men and women and do not have the knowledge of God. Who then is like God? Christians remain obedient to God not men. God is our creator not men. So what God has made through that first mystery called "creation" is good and perfect for our consumption. The common thread between wheat and other grains is that they are all from the earth made by God and that should be good enough for any Christian denomination.
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being the "best." This GI told him it was "all in his head."
Serious Depressive state ensued
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Now has lymphadema 2006
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 07:16 AM

As Catholics, we've found communion to be tricky. When possible, my daughter receives just the precious blood, but not from the priest's chalice. When they have mass at her school, we bring up the approved, low gluten hosts from the benedictine sisters.

If they are not offering communion under both species, my daughter makes a spiritual communion, a simple prayer for those who CANNOT receive communion. Our priest spent time teaching her the prayer, and for us it's an elegant way for her to always be able to participate in communion.

I pray that they change the rules, but until then this works for us.
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