Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com!
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Making Superfine Brown Rice Flour?


BlueTaelon

Recommended Posts

BlueTaelon Rookie

Call me cheap but no way am I paying $13 in shipping for 3lbs of already really over priced flour. I mean come on, $25 for 3 lbs of flour? NO.WAY. Can't I just put regular brown rice flour in a coffee/spice grinder to make it finer? or can I put it though a mill?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Julie531 Newbie

Call me cheap but no way am I paying $13 in shipping for 3lbs of already really over priced flour. I mean come on, $25 for 3 lbs of flour? NO.WAY. Can't I just put regular brown rice flour in a coffee/spice grinder to make it finer? or can I put it though a mill?

If you are looking for a flour sub for baking, skip the blend that gluten-free cookbooks call for and get Le Garden Bakery's Quick Mix. It's a cup-for-cup flour substitute for any TRADITIONAL baking recipe. No need to use a gluten-free recipe anymore!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mizzo Enthusiast

If you are looking for a flour sub for baking, skip the blend that gluten-free cookbooks call for and get Le Garden Bakery's Quick Mix. It's a cup-for-cup flour substitute for any TRADITIONAL baking recipe. No need to use a gluten-free recipe anymore!

I think the point was to avoid the ridiculous shipping rates everyone charges. Le Garden charges 13.45 to my state for 1.1/2 lbs of their flour.

The u.s.p.s. rate for regular shipping for up to 3lbs is roughly $5, I know because I checked today because I am planning on shipping some frozen UDI's to an Aunt with celiac disease who can't get it. So yes, they are taking advantage of our situation.

Has anyone tried a grind or mill brown rice flour to superfine ? I would like to know myself as I have neither appliance to try it and don't want to invest in one for this experiment.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BlueTaelon Rookie

I think the point was to avoid the ridiculous shipping rates everyone charges. Le Garden charges 13.45 to my state for 1.1/2 lbs of their flour.

The u.s.p.s. rate for regular shipping for up to 3lbs is roughly $5, I know because I checked today because I am planning on shipping some frozen UDI's to an Aunt with celiac disease who can't get it. So yes, they are taking advantage of our situation.

Has anyone tried a grind or mill brown rice flour to superfine ? I would like to know myself as I have neither appliance to try it and don't want to invest in one for this experiment.

Exactly, there a newbie spamming there biz is all, ignore it:) I did grind some of Bobs brown rice flour up and it is much more powdery but I don't know how it compares to Authentic Foods grind. If I have time tonight I'll bake something with it and see what happens.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
halfrunner Apprentice

Exactly, there a newbie spamming there biz is all, ignore it:) I did grind some of Bobs brown rice flour up and it is much more powdery but I don't know how it compares to Authentic Foods grind. If I have time tonight I'll bake something with it and see what happens.

Brown rice is really hard to get ground into a fine powder. I have already killed 2 coffee grinders trying to do so. I quit trying after that. I suppose if you want to spend like $130 or so for a grain mill, you could go to town without any fuss. But I have so far refused to cough up that much money just to grind my own flours.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BlueTaelon Rookie

Brown rice is really hard to get ground into a fine powder. I have already killed 2 coffee grinders trying to do so. I quit trying after that. I suppose if you want to spend like $130 or so for a grain mill, you could go to town without any fuss. But I have so far refused to cough up that much money just to grind my own flours.

If the recipes from Annalise's book turn out to be a good as people are telling me it might be worth it to shell out the money. Its basically $25 for a 3lb bag. That's around $8lb, a really good flour mill is around $250. So for the cost of around 30lbs of flour it would pay for itself. We bake a lot so for me that would be worth it but I'd rather not shell out that kind of money you know?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frances03 Enthusiast

I use my vitamix to grind up brown rice, white rice, millet, etc. Not sure if it would qualify as superfine, since I'm not really sure what that means, but it sure makes it in to flour and I use it a lot. I'm going to get some buckwheat and try grinding that next, can't wait!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Mizzo Enthusiast

If the recipes from Annalise's book turn out to be a good as people are telling me it might be worth it to shell out the money. Its basically $25 for a 3lb bag. That's around $8lb, a really good flour mill is around $250. So for the cost of around 30lbs of flour it would pay for itself. We bake a lot so for me that would be worth it but I'd rather not shell out that kind of money you know?

I have Annalise's Baking book and her recipe's are good, IMO. FYI I use regular brown rice flour not superfine. Of course using superfine would be better but still they are pretty good as is. Would you like a sample recipe to try ?

Just a note about the book, this is a high fat, high caloric just like homemade, feel good baking recipe book . I tried to make healthier substitutes but nothing worked. I even email her to ask about how to make the recipes a little more waist friendly

and was told, and I quote " If you want a low-fat recipe buy a low-fat recipe book, that was not my intent when I wrote the book"

Since I disliked the tone of her response I will never buy another book of hers. That being said the recipes are good but watch out for the calories and fat.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BlueTaelon Rookie

I have Annalise's Baking book and her recipe's are good, IMO. FYI I use regular brown rice flour not superfine. Of course using superfine would be better but still they are pretty good as is. Would you like a sample recipe to try ?

Just a note about the book, this is a high fat, high caloric just like homemade, feel good baking recipe book . I tried to make healthier substitutes but nothing worked. I even email her to ask about how to make the recipes a little more waist friendly

and was told, and I quote " If you want a low-fat recipe buy a low-fat recipe book, that was not my intent when I wrote the book"

Since I disliked the tone of her response I will never buy another book of hers. That being said the recipes are good but watch out for the calories and fat.

Thank you for the heads up, that type of response would piss me too too. I got the book for pretty much the bread recipes which don't look to high in fat although I just noticed she didn't bother putting in a nutrition break down after each recipe which is a bit annoying as that's rather important info for us since I'm trying to lose weight and we have to do low fat. I can't remember the last time I got a cook book without that info for each recipe.

oh yes, should she make another book and you want it without her getting her royalty becasue of her attitude, just by it 2nd hand from a private seller online so you still get the book without spiting yourself:) I mean I may not like aunt Suzie but I'll be darned if I'm gonna deprive myself of her cake recipe becasue of it:) lol:)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
halfrunner Apprentice

If the recipes from Annalise's book turn out to be a good as people are telling me it might be worth it to shell out the money. Its basically $25 for a 3lb bag. That's around $8lb, a really good flour mill is around $250. So for the cost of around 30lbs of flour it would pay for itself. We bake a lot so for me that would be worth it but I'd rather not shell out that kind of money you know?

I totally know. ;) I could buy tons of brown rice for dirt cheap and grind my own, too. I'm just too cheap to pay that much right now. Then again, I can get Bob's red mill brown rice flour without any trouble around here, so I just go with that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 8 months later...
GermanGirlWithCurls Newbie

I know this topic is some months old. I just wanted to comment on using 'regular' brown rice flour for the recipes in Annalise's cookbook. I've noticed some people mention they can just go get brown rice flour easily, like Bob's Red Mill. If you want your gluten-free baked goods from this book to turn out almost very close to their gluten-filled counterparts, you CANNOT use regular brown rice flour. It WILL NOT WORK. Yes, the end result still might be palatable, but it is going to still taste like a gluten-free baked good. (Trust me, I tried to be thrifty, too, and do the same thing.) So if you're not concerned about this, then you can certainly use Bob's Red Mill or whatever is your favorite brand of brown rice flour. But if you're like me and you REALLY want to taste a cake that tastes like a cake, please save up the extra money, suck it up, and pay the shipping costs on Authentic Foods' brand. I know...I almost had a cow, too, when I went to Amazon and saw how much the shipping costs were. But it's definitely worth it if you aren't baking tons of cakes and pies every day and do not want to fork out the money for a mill. BTW...I've tried putting Bob's Red Mill brown rice flour in my food processor to get it superfine--doesn't work. It does get more powdery, as someone above mentioned, but it still doesn't give you a superfine texture. Authentic Foods is almost like a wheat flour in how powdery and fine it is. It's WAY less gritty. HTH

The other option is to seek out recipes that do not use any rice flours. Sorghum is my absolute favorite flour to bake with. And when combined with almond flour, some amazing things can be created. Gluten Free Goddess has a wonderful blog and uses mainly these types of flours. Yes, they are a bit pricier than rice flours (and starches), but they can usually be found in your health food or grocery stores if they have a health food section like mine does. The almond flour is the one that's really expensive (or coconut if you use that). And many bakes also mix sorghum with buckwheat, quinoa, or millet if there are nut or coconut allergies present. The taste ends up being a littler 'nuttier', but the end results are usually much better than when using regular-grind rice flours.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sa1937 Community Regular

I know this topic is some months old. I just wanted to comment on using 'regular' brown rice flour for the recipes in Annalise's cookbook. I've noticed some people mention they can just go get brown rice flour easily, like Bob's Red Mill. If you want your gluten-free baked goods from this book to turn out almost very close to their gluten-filled counterparts, you CANNOT use regular brown rice flour. It WILL NOT WORK. Yes, the end result still might be palatable, but it is going to still taste like a gluten-free baked good. (Trust me, I tried to be thrifty, too, and do the same thing.) So if you're not concerned about this, then you can certainly use Bob's Red Mill or whatever is your favorite brand of brown rice flour. But if you're like me and you REALLY want to taste a cake that tastes like a cake, please save up the extra money, suck it up, and pay the shipping costs on Authentic Foods' brand. I know...I almost had a cow, too, when I went to Amazon and saw how much the shipping costs were. But it's definitely worth it if you aren't baking tons of cakes and pies every day and do not want to fork out the money for a mill. BTW...I've tried putting Bob's Red Mill brown rice flour in my food processor to get it superfine--doesn't work. It does get more powdery, as someone above mentioned, but it still doesn't give you a superfine texture. Authentic Foods is almost like a wheat flour in how powdery and fine it is. It's WAY less gritty. HTH

I have Annalise Roberts' cookbook but bought it mainly for the bread recipes. Neither Flour Mix A or B call for brown rice flour. I especially like the Multigrain Sandwich Bread.

I did grind some brown rice flour in a coffee mill but honestly can't remember what I made with it or if it worked. But then if I baked tons of cakes and pies every day, I'd have a lot more problems than the fineness or lack thereof of the brown rice flour. :P

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Takala Enthusiast

I am wondering if pre - soaking the brown rice flour in some of the liquid in the recipes would help soften it up for this ongoing grit problem some of you are having.

I am more of an almond/sorghum/amaranth/buckwheat/teff type of person, myself.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sa1937 Community Regular

King Arthur Flour has a recipe for Open Original Shared Link that uses a brown rice flour mix. I wonder if that's why their gluten-free breads require two rises...I would think the flour would absorb more of the moisture that way.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 1 month later...
Huntress Newbie

I think the point was to avoid the ridiculous shipping rates everyone charges. Le Garden charges 13.45 to my state for 1.1/2 lbs of their flour.

The u.s.p.s. rate for regular shipping for up to 3lbs is roughly $5, I know because I checked today because I am planning on shipping some frozen UDI's to an Aunt with celiac disease who can't get it. So yes, they are taking advantage of our situation.

Has anyone tried a grind or mill brown rice flour to superfine ? I would like to know myself as I have neither appliance to try it and don't want to invest in one for this experiment.

Sorry, I can't answer the grinding brown rice flour to make it superfine question (am wondering about it myself), but as far the shipping issue:

Better Batter All-Purpose Gluten-Free Flour is a cup-for-cup substitute for regular all-purpose wheat flour and they just lowered their shipping charges to $5 for orders under $50 (from ~$10 iirc), and I believe the shipping is free if you order $50 or more. I just started using this flour in my old recipes from my pre-gluten-free-free days as a one-for-one substitute and really like it--doesn't have the gritty texture or bean aftertaste of some of the ones I've tried. It's very finely ground and powdery and already has the xanthan gum in it.

Other reasonable shipping charges: Vitacost sells Better Batter products as well as other gluten-free items and has a similar s&h rate scheme --$4.99 for orders under $49, free for orders $49 or more.

Amazon has free s&h for orders $25 or more (if the item is fulfilled by Amazon) and carries Better Batter and other gluten-free brands.

Another place that offers free shipping over $50 is 'Free From Gluten".

Netrition which carries various gluten-free brands has a flat rate for shipping of $4.95 no matter how much you order. They ship out quickly too--I always get my stuff the next day.

There are probably more, but those are the ones I currently know about.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
freeatlast Collaborator

If you are looking for a flour sub for baking, skip the blend that gluten-free cookbooks call for and get Le Garden Bakery's Quick Mix. It's a cup-for-cup flour substitute for any TRADITIONAL baking recipe. No need to use a gluten-free recipe anymore!

Their blog post of March 25th says they are on a temporary sabbatical and their domain is for sale.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Monael Apprentice

I couldn't find it cheap enough - I just don't have the money! So I used a white rice flour that I found in a local market. I could tell by looking at it that it was superfine ground so I took a chance. I used it in her coconut layer cake and that cake was so delicious I couldn't even believe it. I know that it has fewer nutrients but honestly I don't eat cake for the nutrients :lol:

I am sorry if her response was rude regarding the low fat recipes. I guess I can understand her point though-when I eat cakes, pies, cookies and bread, I go for it :D Then try to reduce calories elsewhere. And since it is a pain in the booty to bake everything all the time, it won't be very often so I can indulge myself. I know what you mean about trying to lose weight, I actually gained weight since going gluten free--I think it is at least partially because my food is actually staying in my digestive tract long enough to absorb calories, instead of the D I was having constantly. It was my daughter's birthday, so I made this cake instead of getting one with gluten and staring longingly at it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 3 weeks later...
fantasticalice Explorer

After trying to blend my own, buying mixes and grinding (nobody ever said anything about a burr grinder, mine was $16 at my local Von's) my own, I'm done. Now I want to know WHICH store-bought blend is the best? How about the best for my health? All this white stuff gets me down. I will be ordering from Amazon so I have to order more than $25 worth to make it worth while. I am leaning toward Domata and if I do a revolving order it will be less. I will split this with a friend. I want to see if I get any replies to this post. Thanks in advance. I KNOW this gets old for some of you but the chance to teach never should!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
shadowicewolf Proficient

I just use a vitamixer to make flour. Takes about 5 or so minutes but is well worth it.

I don't use much premade mixes (outside of bisquick and my bread) because they sometimes contian bean flour.... and it doesn't like me very well :(

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ginsou Explorer

I use my blender to make my brown rice flour mixture finer....I run the flour thru a few times and make sure it is well mixed, and is not staying at the bottom of the blender. I have thought of purchasing a Cuisinart Burr Mill....perhaps in the future I may. I honestly don't think that paying the high price for a superfine blend, is worth it. I had purchased a superfine brown rice mixture to use in a recipe, and did not notice much of a difference. I think the recipe you use and the varied ingredients for your cooking project makes the final difference.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
fantasticalice Explorer

Not true about Amazon, IT IS NOT FREE SHIPPING! I checked and tried to order, still charged

$14 for shipping!? No matter how much I ordered. The flour is NOT coming from Amazon, they are

only the middle man.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • 1 year later...
Carla Spacher Rookie

Call me cheap but no way am I paying $13 in shipping for 3lbs of already really over priced flour. I mean come on, $25 for 3 lbs of flour? NO.WAY. Can't I just put regular brown rice flour in a coffee/spice grinder to make it finer? or can I put it though a mill?

Hi Blue Taelon,

 

I have tried grinding rice flour in a coffee grinder and in a mill, and it is still not as fine as the Authentic Foods superfine rice flour. A matter of fact, it it still gritty. I hope this helps clarify this matter for you. The grain mill I used was the KitchenAid Grain Mill Attachment.

 

You can now purchase Authentic Foods superfine rice flours (white and brown) on Amazon for about $16 per 3 lbs. (including shipping).

 

Meanwhile, I find that there is no replacement for superfine rice flour. I use it for cakes, cupcakes, pie crust, pastry dough, shortbread crust, and more.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      121,070
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    TT24
    Newest Member
    TT24
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Fluka66
      Thank you again for your reply and comments which I have read carefully as I appreciate any input at this stage. I'm tending to listen to what my body wants me to do, having been in agony for many years any respite has been welcome and avoiding all wheat and lactose has thankfully brought this.  When in pain before I was seen by a number of gynacologists as I had 22 fibroids and had an operation 13 years ago to shrink them . However the pain remained and intensified to the point over the years where I began passing out. I was in and out of a&e during covid when waiting rooms where empty. My present diet is the only thing that's given me any hope for the future. As I say I had never heard of celiac disease before starting so I guess had this not come up in a conversation I would just have carried on. It was the swollen lymph node that sent me to a boots pharmacist who immediately sent me to a&e where a Dr asked questions prescribed antibiotics and then back to my GP. I'm now waiting for my hospital appointment . Hope this answers your question. I found out more about the disease because I googled something I wouldn't normally do, it did shed light on the disease but I also read some things that this disease can do. On good days I actually hope I haven't got this but on further investigation my mother's side of the family all Celtic have had various problems 're stomach pain my poor grandmother cried in pain as did her sister whilst two of her brother's survived WW2 but died from ulcers put down to stress of fighting.  Wishing you well with your recovery.  Many thanks  
    • knitty kitty
      Welcome to the forum, @Nacina, What supplements is your son taking?
    • knitty kitty
      @BluegrassCeliac, I'm agreeing.  It's a good thing taking magnesium. And B vitamins. Magnesium and Thiamine work together.  If you supplement the B vitamins which include Thiamine, but don't have sufficient magnesium, Thiamine won't work well.  If you take Magnesium, but not Thiamine, magnesium won't work as well by itself. Hydrochlorothiazide HCTZ is a sulfonamide drug, a sulfa drug.  So are proton pump inhibitors PPIs, and SSRIs. High dose Thiamine is used to resolve cytokine storms.  High dose Thiamine was used in patients having cytokine storms in Covid infections.  Magnesium supplementation also improves cytokine storms, and was also used during Covid. How's your Vitamin D? References: Thiamine and magnesium deficiencies: keys to disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25542071/ Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8533683/ The Effect of a High-Dose Vitamin B Multivitamin Supplement on the Relationship between Brain Metabolism and Blood Biomarkers of Oxidative Stress: A Randomized Control Trial https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6316433/ High‐dose Vitamin B6 supplementation reduces anxiety and strengthens visual surround suppression https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9787829/ Repurposing Treatment of Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome for Th-17 Cell Immune Storm Syndrome and Neurological Symptoms in COVID-19: Thiamine Efficacy and Safety, In-Vitro Evidence and Pharmacokinetic Profile https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33737877/ Higher Intake of Dietary Magnesium Is Inversely Associated With COVID-19 Severity and Symptoms in Hospitalized Patients: A Cross-Sectional Study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9132593/ Magnesium and Vitamin D Deficiency as a Potential Cause of Immune Dysfunction, Cytokine Storm and Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation in covid-19 patients https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7861592/ Sulfonamide Hypersensitivity https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31495421/
    • BluegrassCeliac
      Hi,   Not saying Thiamine (B1) couldn't be an issue as well, but Mg was definitely the cause of my problems. It's the only thing that worked. I supplemented with B vitamins, but that didn't change anything, in fact they made me sick. Mg stopped all my muscle pain (HCTZ) within a few months and fixed all the intestinal problems HCTZ caused as well. Mom has an allergy to some sulfa drugs (IgG Celiac too), but I don't think I've ever taken them. Mg boosted my energy as well. It solved a lot of problems. I take 1000mg MgO a day with no problems. I boost absorption with Vitamin D. Some people can't take MgO,  like mom, she takes Mg Glycinate. It's one of those things that someone has try and find the right form for themselves. Everyone's different. Mg deficiency can cause anxiety and is a treatment for it. A pharmacist gave me a list of drugs years ago that cause Mg deficiency: PPIs, H2 bockers, HCTZ, some beta blockers (metoprolol which I've taken -- horrible side effects), some anti-anxiety meds too were on it. I posted because I saw he was an IgG celiac. He's the first one I've seen in 20 years, other than my family. We're rare. All the celiacs I've met are IgA. Finding healthcare is a nightmare. Just trying to help. B  
    • Scott Adams
      It sounds like you've been through a lot with your son's health journey, and it's understandable that you're seeking answers and solutions. Given the complexity of his symptoms and medical history, it might be beneficial to explore a few avenues: Encourage your son to keep a detailed journal of his symptoms, including when they occur, their severity, any triggers or patterns, and how they impact his daily life. This information can be valuable during medical consultations and may help identify correlations or trends. Consider seeking opinions from specialized medical centers or academic hospitals that have multidisciplinary teams specializing in gastrointestinal disorders, especially those related to Celiac disease and Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EOE). These centers often have experts who deal with complex cases and can offer a comprehensive evaluation. Since you've already explored alternative medicine with a nutrition response doctor and a gut detox diet, you may want to consider consulting a functional medicine practitioner. They take a holistic approach to health, looking at underlying causes and imbalances that may contribute to symptoms. Given his low vitamin D levels and other nutritional markers, a thorough nutritional assessment by a registered dietitian or nutritionist specializing in gastrointestinal health could provide insights into any deficiencies or dietary adjustments that might help alleviate symptoms. In addition to routine tests, consider asking about more specialized tests that may not be part of standard screenings. These could include comprehensive stool analyses, food intolerance testing, allergy panels, or advanced imaging studies to assess gut health.
×
×
  • Create New...