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Priest Almost Glutened Me!


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#1 K8ling

 
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 07:23 AM

Ok so you all know I went ot mass last week and tried the gluten-free wafers and they still made me sick. Well this week our normal priest was back and I put my little pyx in the tray and went on with Mass. When I went up to do Communion, Fr. Fred goes up, grabs the pyx, opens it, and hands it to me. Ummm... That's not gonna work, dude. So I took it back to my seat and then tracked down a eucharistic minister and told them what happened. I couldn't just throw Jesus away so he took my communion for me but after mass when I tried to explain it to our priest I got a blank look. He said next week he'll just give me the entire pyx and I can wipe it down at my seat.

I am SO glad I caught that!
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#2 kareng

 
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 07:55 AM

If the low gluten wafers made you sick, what was in the pyx?
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#3 K8ling

 
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:08 AM

I had a small piece of gluten-free bread. I was told told not to worry about the wafers if they made me sick.
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 08:40 AM

Because the Church has said that only bread with wheat in it can be consecrated, my priest will only go for the low gluten ones. Your priest is a rebel. :)
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#5 Emilushka

 
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 09:32 AM

OK, here's something I totally don't get. I don't mean to be facetious or disrespectful - I'm just very very very curious.

In Catholicism, the wafer/bread/communion thingy turns into the literal body of Christ (transubstantiation). It's an official part of Catholicism. That that is what happens. So then why isn't the literal body of Jesus Christ gluten-free? Does that bother any Catholics in the room? There's a story about a nun who had the same problem - gluten-filled communion causing her Celiac to act up - and I always wonder what she thought of it too.

Again, I'm just curious. I'm not Catholic and I don't know that many people who are, so I have a limited pool to ask about how this works. Do you guys just sort of count the transubstantiation as more of a theoretical idea and not so much a practical reality? Or is it that the wafer becomes the body of Christ after it's already in your mouth so you have a reaction to it pre-transubstantiation? Or how does this all work?
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:27 AM

It's based on the last supper, where Jesus blessed the bread & wine and gave it to his disciples. He told them it is his body & blood. How this works is probably years worth of theological study. I think that the bread having to have wheat is silly. If his bread was Udis, would we all have to buy that? if the Jews had lived in China, maybe he would have blesed rice. If we still had the wheat & food they had, maybe we wouldn't have Celiac.

However, as I mentioned before, the Pope and the group that studies and makes the rules, doesn't consult with me. :)
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#7 Emilushka

 
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:32 AM

Right ... but if the bread/rice/whatever turns literally into the body of Jesus Christ, shouldn't it BECOME gluten-free because human flesh (like bacon or poultry or steak) would be gluten-free? That's really the question. How do people resolve the idea that it still triggers Celiac even though it's supposed to be Jesus's body? Does it bother anybody? Does anyone other than me even care?
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#8 K8ling

 
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 11:34 AM

Because the Church has said that only bread with wheat in it can be consecrated, my priest will only go for the low gluten ones. Your priest is a rebel. :)


I told him "Hey, with the cross contamination issues, I probably AM getting wheat!" lol. I honestly just don't have a choice right now. I refuse to NOT take communion because this is something GOD gave me. I didn't choose it. It just happened to be something God set on my shoulders.

That being the case, why should I be excluded?
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:10 PM

Given the time frame and location of Jersualem there's a very good chance the bread during Jesus's time was made from sorghum or teff. Even if it was wheat, it was not the wheat we have today. Man has cultivated and changed wheat so much that it bares little resemblance to wheat 100 or even 1000 years ago. The requirement that it be wheat gluten is hogwash and based purely on tradition. A blessed rice cracker (or other grain) should be perfectly acceptable. The host does not literally change to flesh. It's symbolic. The Catholic church needs to join the 21st century and be more accommodating and accepting of its members needs. I find it amazing that they rather have people suffer instead of them being more open minded. This is why they keep losing members.

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 12:29 PM

Oh. I thought the host literally changed and that was the part of the point of differentiating between Catholicism and protestantism. Maybe I am behind the times!
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:44 PM

Oh. I thought the host literally changed and that was the part of the point of differentiating between Catholicism and protestantism. Maybe I am behind the times!


HAHAHAHHAHAHHA If it literally changed we would be cannibals!
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 03:12 PM

HAHAHAHHAHAHHA If it literally changed we would be cannibals!


YES. I thought you guys were maybe a little weird. Especially if you were cannibals who didn't like gay people ... I mean ... come on! Let he who is without sin blahblahblah.

Turns out nobody thinks they literally change over anymore. I think the whole point initially was that people DID think that, and that was part of the protestant reformation. I am using Wikipedia as a source, though.
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 05:19 PM

It is truly the living Body of Christ. It retains the elements of the bread that is used.

It's a miracle and not bound by 21st century logic.



K8ling your priest doesn't have the authority to make that kind of decision and could face serious repercussions from this.


Very sad that there is so little understanding. :(
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 05:27 PM

http://www.benedicti.../low_gluten.php
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 05:36 PM

It is truly the living Body of Christ. It retains the elements of the bread that is used.

It's a miracle and not bound by 21st century logic.



K8ling your priest doesn't have the authority to make that kind of decision and could face serious repercussions from this.


Very sad that there is so little understanding. :(


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