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Does Anyone Know Why Tamales Would Make Me Sick?


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#1 crampy girl

 
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 12:43 PM

Ok, I have been really careful and good about being gluten and caisin free, but at 1pm I ate 5 corn tamales ( home made by my maid) and at 3 I started having nausea followed by cramps and diarrhea. She said she did use butter after I called to ask her ingredients, but it's hard to believe I would get such an extreme reaction. I also have gotten sick from corn dogs before. What is going on!? I thought I was done with these episodes!
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 12:56 PM

Ok, I have been really careful and good about being gluten and caisin free, but at 1pm I ate 5 corn tamales ( home made by my maid) and at 3 I started having nausea followed by cramps and diarrhea. She said she did use butter after I called to ask her ingredients, but it's hard to believe I would get such an extreme reaction. I also have gotten sick from corn dogs before. What is going on!? I thought I was done with these episodes!



First, most corn dog coating is part wheat flour part corn meal.

What did she put in the tamales? You need to see the ingredients. Is she making them in a pan or cutting board or colander, etc that had had wheat things before? If she made them at her house, there might be cc from her kitchen. Could be something else isn't agreeing with you. Don't know what the reaction is, but could it be food poisoning?

Soooo frustrating! They were probably really tasty, too. :)
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:04 PM

First, most corn dog coating is part wheat flour part corn meal.

What did she put in the tamales? You need to see the ingredients. Is she making them in a pan or cutting board or colander, etc that had had wheat things before? If she made them at her house, there might be cc from her kitchen. Could be something else isn't agreeing with you. Don't know what the reaction is, but could it be food poisoning?

Soooo frustrating! They were probably really tasty, too. :)

Thanks for your quick reply, I am in the potty right now w cramps. I feel kinda shaky too. I have tolerated sm amounts of accidental glutenning. I'm wondering if it's corn?I can't believe it would be the butter. This feels familiar so I'm not convinced food poisoning, maybe I'll test it out on my hubby when he gets home. So frustrated. I'm trying to work too!
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ANTI CASEIN IGA 30 UNITS (Normal less than 10)
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Anti Soy IgA 34 units
Fat malabsorption- 356 normal less than 300
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:11 PM

Thanks for your quick reply, I am in the potty right now w cramps. I feel kinda shaky too. I have tolerated sm amounts of accidental glutenning. I'm wondering if it's corn?I can't believe it would be the butter. This feels familiar so I'm not convinced food poisoning, maybe I'll test it out on my hubby when he gets home. So frustrated. I'm trying to work too!
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I'm picturing you in the bathroom with a computer. :ph34r:

Food poisoning can be cramps and diarrhea. Its also possible with food poisoning that you got lucky and got the part with the bad bacteria.

I think you should find out what exactly she put in them and possible cc issues. Feel better, soon!
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 02:07 PM

besides the cc issue and the obvious need to know the ingredients, I have discovered that as time has gone by, accidental ingestion of foods that bother me tends to bother me more and more each time. Just another thought. I think when you feel better, having a serious one-on-one with the maid about your cooking needs is in order!
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:33 PM

I'm pretty sure that gastro responses to actual food poisoning (botulism, etc.) occur about 8 hours after you consume the offensive food. Have you been ok with regular corn and other derivatives? (Like cornstarch?)
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 04:18 PM

besides the cc issue and the obvious need to know the ingredients, I have discovered that as time has gone by, accidental ingestion of foods that bother me tends to bother me more and more each time. Just another thought. I think when you feel better, having a serious one-on-one with the maid about your cooking needs is in order!

Ingrdients were chicken,Mesa corn flour,lots of butter,potatoes,carrots. I have eaten corn before w/ o a severe reaction like this one. I'm feeling better now, about to eat some thai kitchen noodle soup. I'm thinking it can't be food poisoning, even brucilosis and staph aureus take four hours to set in, and it was one hour,lasted 3 hours and is gone now. Maybe your right, when you eliminate a food and later accidentally consume it ( many the butter since I have a caisen Iga level of 30 on enterolab test) maybe the reaction is more severe?? I haven't had dairy in 3 weeks now. All my tummy symptoms completely gone with both gluten and dairy elimination. I thought it seemed crazy when I first read that reactions get more severe with time. My hubby won't try them,so I won't have a "control" subject.
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43 year old female with IBS symtoms for 25+ years.
Celiac blood panel tests neg x 2
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1, 0201; HLA DQB1 Allele 2 0602; Serologic EQ HLA-DQ 2,1 (SUPTYPE 2-6)
ANTI CASEIN IGA 30 UNITS (Normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti gliadin IgA. 24 (normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti-tissue TG IgA 8 (normal less than 8)
Anti Soy IgA 34 units
Fat malabsorption- 356 normal less than 300
Vit D deficient by blood test

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 04:21 PM

I'm pretty sure that gastro responses to actual food poisoning (botulism, etc.) occur about 8 hours after you consume the offensive food. Have you been ok with regular corn and other derivatives? (Like cornstarch?)

You may be right. Prob not food poisoning. She delivered several hundred tamales and no one reported getting sick to her. Think I'm ok with corn starch, and corn.
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43 year old female with IBS symtoms for 25+ years.
Celiac blood panel tests neg x 2
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1, 0201; HLA DQB1 Allele 2 0602; Serologic EQ HLA-DQ 2,1 (SUPTYPE 2-6)
ANTI CASEIN IGA 30 UNITS (Normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti gliadin IgA. 24 (normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti-tissue TG IgA 8 (normal less than 8)
Anti Soy IgA 34 units
Fat malabsorption- 356 normal less than 300
Vit D deficient by blood test

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 04:25 PM

I'm picturing you in the bathroom with a computer. :ph34r:

Food poisoning can be cramps and diarrhea. Its also possible with food poisoning that you got lucky and got the part with the bad bacteria.

I think you should find out what exactly she put in them and possible cc issues. Feel better, soon!

I take my iPad everywhere I go......:-) :). Except the shower. But I can't bring my work computer in there, maybe I should get a potty put in my office so I can keep working when I get the poops!
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Celiac blood panel tests neg x 2
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1, 0201; HLA DQB1 Allele 2 0602; Serologic EQ HLA-DQ 2,1 (SUPTYPE 2-6)
ANTI CASEIN IGA 30 UNITS (Normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti gliadin IgA. 24 (normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti-tissue TG IgA 8 (normal less than 8)
Anti Soy IgA 34 units
Fat malabsorption- 356 normal less than 300
Vit D deficient by blood test

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 05:39 PM

I take my iPad everywhere I go......:-) :). Except the shower. But I can't bring my work computer in there, maybe I should get a potty put in my office so I can keep working when I get the poops!



I have made a decision not to take Maxi, the iPad, into the bathroom. :ph34r:

Seriuosly, I wonder about cc on those tamales.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 06:39 PM

I have made a decision not to take Maxi, the iPad, into the bathroom. :ph34r:

Seriuosly, I wonder about cc on those tamales.

What is c?
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Celiac blood panel tests neg x 2
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1, 0201; HLA DQB1 Allele 2 0602; Serologic EQ HLA-DQ 2,1 (SUPTYPE 2-6)
ANTI CASEIN IGA 30 UNITS (Normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti gliadin IgA. 24 (normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti-tissue TG IgA 8 (normal less than 8)
Anti Soy IgA 34 units
Fat malabsorption- 356 normal less than 300
Vit D deficient by blood test

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 07:04 PM

What is c?


Cc cross contaimination. If she fried or cooked something with flour in the cast iron skillet then, cooked something gluten-free. The little particles left, even in a clean skillet, can get you. Or if she drained the chiles in the colander she had used before for regular pasta. Little bits of pasta can get stuck in the holes.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 07:12 PM

Ingrdients were chicken,Mesa corn flour,lots of butter,potatoes,carrots. I have eaten corn before w/ o a severe reaction like this one. I'm feeling better now, about to eat some thai kitchen noodle soup. I'm thinking it can't be food poisoning, even brucilosis and staph aureus take four hours to set in, and it was one hour,lasted 3 hours and is gone now. Maybe your right, when you eliminate a food and later accidentally consume it ( many the butter since I have a caisen Iga level of 30 on enterolab test) maybe the reaction is more severe?? I haven't had dairy in 3 weeks now. All my tummy symptoms completely gone with both gluten and dairy elimination. I thought it seemed crazy when I first read that reactions get more severe with time. My hubby won't try them,so I won't have a "control" subject.


Not all Masa corn flour is 100% corn flour. Some brands are mixes of corn and wheat. And even if the only ingredients listed are corn, then it could have been processed on the same equipment as wheat flour. I had a bad reaction to a bag of masa flour that was just corn. When I contacted the company I found out it was processed on the same lines as wheat flour.
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Posted 05 November 2010 - 08:49 AM

Not all Masa corn flour is 100% corn flour. Some brands are mixes of corn and wheat. And even if the only ingredients listed are corn, then it could have been processed on the same equipment as wheat flour. I had a bad reaction to a bag of masa flour that was just corn. When I contacted the company I found out it was processed on the same lines as wheat flour.

Pretty sure it's not wheat, I have tolerated test of piece of bread a mo ago. Maybe it was food poisoning?? I got nauseated 30 min after I ate them.
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Celiac blood panel tests neg x 2
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1, 0201; HLA DQB1 Allele 2 0602; Serologic EQ HLA-DQ 2,1 (SUPTYPE 2-6)
ANTI CASEIN IGA 30 UNITS (Normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti gliadin IgA. 24 (normal less than 10)
Fecal Anti-tissue TG IgA 8 (normal less than 8)
Anti Soy IgA 34 units
Fat malabsorption- 356 normal less than 300
Vit D deficient by blood test

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 09:09 AM

Pretty sure it's not wheat, I have tolerated test of piece of bread a mo ago. Maybe it was food poisoning?? I got nauseated 30 min after I ate them.


I think we all thought you had Celiac or gluten intolerance. Not sure what to tell you. Could be any of the ingredients or none (virus, food poisoning, other food or medication).
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