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#1 yolo

 
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 03:14 AM

Sheesh! I was sleeping so well. I stopped using lemons and peppers and my eczema went away. I also stopped using coconut oil and found I could sleep like a baby! But unfortunately tonight I had some leftover pancake that my boyfriend cooked for himself--I forgot til now that he used coconut oil in the pan. Just that little bit and I can't sleep--again!

I guess it makes it pretty clear that I am really allergic to coconut as well as the other above items.

There was an older thread about this, but I thought I would bring it up again.

I just took some ibuprofen. Am hoping it will work. I am going to take some baking soda since it is an allergy.

And no, this isn't due to candida overgrowth die off, I am certain. The eczema that I thought was candida has gone away. It is a clear case of an allergy affecting my nervous system. It makes my sciatic nerves inflamed and causes lumps on the ridges of my top hip bones, making it almost impossible to sleep--despite my having taken a hot bath and done an hour's worth of stretching and yoga earlier tonight and long walks almost every day. Its also inflaming the nerves in my neck. Aach! Its not fair. I am going to have to ask my boyfriend to stop using the coconut oil too... I just can't afford mistakes like this.

Anyone else here have a similar response to coconut oil? Any quick fix remedies? I suppose I will have to ride this out, however it would be nice to know if there are any tried and true remedies on this for my future arsenal...

Bea
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 06:29 AM

Wish I knew how to fix it. I suspect I've become allergic to coconut oil too. I don't know how to describe my symptoms yet. But I don't feel well/feel funny after I have some. Many of these allergens seem to cause GI inflamation that interferes with my sleep. Love to know how to get rid of that! Have you been using hexane free coconut oil? Tomatoes interfered with my sleep-really bad dream, and such. Crazy the way food can affext us.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:51 AM

Wish I knew how to fix it. I suspect I've become allergic to coconut oil too. I don't know how to describe my symptoms yet. But I don't feel well/feel funny after I have some. Many of these allergens seem to cause GI inflamation that interferes with my sleep. Love to know how to get rid of that! Have you been using hexane free coconut oil? Tomatoes interfered with my sleep-really bad dream, and such. Crazy the way food can affext us.



I agree, it is crazy! I just wouldn't have thought it could affect me like that.

The coconut oil is hexane free, cold pressed, organic. So I doubt the kind of coconut oil is the problem... Its just the coconut itself.

I began to suspect it could possibly be a problem since I tend to be allergic to nuts in general. Plus my dad was allergic to the nightshade family.

I have had this terrible eczema as well as wracking nerve problems at night. The last few days both symptoms went away--except for last night after I had that snack!

We grew bushel fulls of tomatoes and peppers in our garden. Go figure! My reaction certainly wasn't caused by any pesticide etc.

The baking soda in a glass of water seemed to help, but nevertheless it w as 4 AM by the time I got to sleep!

I read elsewhere some folks use benedryl. I might get some for an emergency, though I generally don't do well with stimulants (pseudo-ephedrine)---so then again I might not. Its probably better for me to just to stay away from the stuff I guess.

I also have some sleep herbs I could have taken. Was too tired to whip them up. I should mix them in a jar, dry, and have them at the ready I suppose. Passion flower, valerian, chamomile, hops. Either that or make up capsules... But I think that might be just going a little too far.

At least now I know why I didn't have very good sleep these last several months!

Being able to sleep unhindered is such a gift. I look forward to doing so again tonight.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 02:21 PM

Hi Bea,

I am allergic to coconut--so sensitive to it that water filtered through coconut hulls (in most commercial filters) makes me extremely ill.

I have gotten so that I can't use topical products with coconut--and most natural soaps and just about all shampoos contain coconut derivatives. I get tremors in my hands, trouble sleeping, and migraines just from using these sorts of products. If I ingest any--including pans washed with Clorox Naturals Dishwashing Detergent (all coconut)--I add nausea and dizziness to the mix.

The only remedy that has ever worked for me is to strictly avoid coconut in any form.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 03:41 PM

Hi Bea,

I am allergic to coconut--so sensitive to it that water filtered through coconut hulls (in most commercial filters) makes me extremely ill.

I have gotten so that I can't use topical products with coconut--and most natural soaps and just about all shampoos contain coconut derivatives. I get tremors in my hands, trouble sleeping, and migraines just from using these sorts of products. If I ingest any--including pans washed with Clorox Naturals Dishwashing Detergent (all coconut)--I add nausea and dizziness to the mix.

The only remedy that has ever worked for me is to strictly avoid coconut in any form.



Hi Jersey Angel,

Oh wow--I was just talking to my boyfriend about that possibility. I have heard of others who can't handle the coconut shells turned into carbon for most water filters. Do you use a kind that doesn't have that type of charcoal?

I suppose the only way to figure that out is to stop using them and see what happens both without it and then when its re-introduced? I am hoping of course that I don't have it that bad. Whichever way it turns out, this not sleeping thing with the legs on fire etc. etc. has gotten way too old for me to ignore.

What type of shampoo do you use by the way? I just noticed that my beloved desert essence fragrance free shampoo has cocamidopropyl betaine in it.

Is coconut also in most gluten free cosmetics? Do you use a kind that doesn't? I'd be much obliged if you let me know.

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Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:02 PM

Hi Jersey Angel,

Oh wow--I was just talking to my boyfriend about that possibility. I have heard of others who can't handle the coconut shells turned into carbon for most water filters. Do you use a kind that doesn't have that type of charcoal?

I suppose the only way to figure that out is to stop using them and see what happens both without it and then when its re-introduced? I am hoping of course that I don't have it that bad. Whichever way it turns out, this not sleeping thing with the legs on fire etc. etc. has gotten way too old for me to ignore.

What type of shampoo do you use by the way? I just noticed that my beloved desert essence fragrance free shampoo has cocamidopropyl betaine in it.

Is coconut also in most gluten free cosmetics? Do you use a kind that doesn't? I'd be much obliged if you let me know.

Bea

Bea, I figured out about the filter when I put two and two together and realized that I got much sicker shortly after we bought a new refrigerator with a water filter. I looked into what they use for filtration because I wondered if by chance wheat was involved (it's not). But, I did discover that they used coconut hulls, and immediately switched to spring water which I still drink to this day.

This was reinforced during a visit to my sister's home where she served ice water from a Brita Filter pitcher. I got so nauseous and had stomach pain severe enough that I had to lie down. (since I always bring my food with me, it had to be the water) Went back to my spring water and began to feel better. Have not challenged it since :)

The shampoo issue was difficult--I was getting migraines nightly and tremors in my hands. I searched the internet for "coconut free" and found a shampoo bar that is coconut free by Chagrin Valley called Olive Babassu. I have been using it since August and after a period of both me and my hair getting used to it I have to say I love it. My hair is softer, holds color longer, and no ill effects.

http://www.chagrinva...com/shambar.htm

I love the Unscented Castille (olive oil) bar soap from The Soap Shed--I use that in my shower and bathroom sink. Before I found out about shampoo bars, I used this to wash my hair too. (I prefer shampoo bars for hair--they lather really well and rinse out nicely)

http://www.soapshed....Soap-c-288.html

For makeup, I use Everyday Minerals for foundation, Nars blush, Loreal Telescopic mascara, Smashbox eye shadow (occasionally), and Afterglow lipstick.

http://www.everydayminerals.com/

http://www.afterglow...etics.com/lips/
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:18 PM

Being able to sleep unhindered is such a gift. I look forward to doing so again tonight.

Bea


AMEN to that! what with dust mite allergy, blood sugar or other metabolic fluctuations, GI inflamation etc. If I work REALLY hard I can get a good night's sleep occasionaly. I feel like I work so hard to sleep most nights and wake up all but rested. :(

Jerseyangel, if you have the time and don't mind I too would be interested in hearing more. Products etc. I mentioned to someone not long ago that I thought I would have to be careful with coconut. Just food products alone, there are so many things available these days and it's so easy for me to overdo lowcarb things with my limited diet. I rub coconut oil on my feet everyday to keep them in good shape-as Dr. Bernstein recommendeds for diabetics(pure oils not moisturizers) and the facial moisturizer I use now has coconut oil. I'd use olive oil for my feet but it is not clear like the coconut oil and I don't want to end up with discoloration of my socks.
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Son: ADHD '06,
neg. CELIAC PANEL 5/07
ALLERGY: "positive" blood and skin tests to wheat, which triggers his eczema '08
ENTEROLAB testing: elevated Fecal Anti-tissue Transglutaminase IgA Dec. '08
Gluten-free-Feb. '09
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:21 PM

Bea, I figured out about the filter when I put two and two together and realized that I got much sicker shortly after we bought a new refrigerator with a water filter. I looked into what they use for filtration because I wondered if by chance wheat was involved (it's not). But, I did discover that they used coconut hulls, and immediately switched to spring water which I still drink to this day.

This was reinforced during a visit to my sister's home where she served ice water from a Brita Filter pitcher. I got so nauseous and had stomach pain severe enough that I had to lie down. (since I always bring my food with me, it had to be the water) Went back to my spring water and began to feel better. Have not challenged it since :)

The shampoo issue was difficult--I was getting migraines nightly and tremors in my hands. I searched the internet for "coconut free" and found a shampoo bar that is coconut free by Chagrin Valley called Olive Babassu. I have been using it since August and after a period of both me and my hair getting used to it I have to say I love it. My hair is softer, holds color longer, and no ill effects.

http://www.chagrinva...com/shambar.htm

I love the Unscented Castille (olive oil) bar soap from The Soap Shed--I use that in my shower and bathroom sink. Before I found out about shampoo bars, I used this to wash my hair too. (I prefer shampoo bars for hair--they lather really well and rinse out nicely)

http://www.soapshed....Soap-c-288.html

For makeup, I use Everyday Minerals for foundation, Nars blush, Loreal Telescopic mascara, Smashbox eye shadow (occasionally), and Afterglow lipstick.

http://www.everydayminerals.com/

http://www.afterglow...etics.com/lips/



Thanks Patti--I will definitely look into getting some of these. At least I have the lipstick already!

Bea
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:23 PM

AMEN to that! what with dust mite allergy, blood sugar or other metabolic fluctuations, GI inflamation etc. If I work REALLY hard I can get a good night's sleep occasionaly. I feel like I work so hard to sleep most nights and wake up all but rested. :(

Jerseyangel, if you have the time and don't mind I too would be interested in hearing more. Products etc. I mentioned to someone not long ago that I thought I would have to be careful with coconut. Just food products alone, there are so many things available these days and it's so easy for me to overdo lowcarb things with my limited diet. I rub coconut oil on my feet everyday to keep them in good shape-as Dr. Bernstein recommendeds for diabetics(pure oils not moisturizers) and the facial moisturizer I use now has coconut oil. I'd use olive oil for my feet but it is not clear like the coconut oil and I don't want to end up with discoloration of my socks.

Hi missy's mom,

In addition to the links I posted above, I use the Fragrance Free Moisturizer from Dakota Free. I also have used their coconut free Babassu Bar Soap and liked it very much.

http://dakotafree.com/
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:24 PM

Thanks Patti--I will definitely look into getting some of these. At least I have the lipstick already!

Bea

You're welcome Bea :)
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:43 PM

Thanks Patti.
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Son: ADHD '06,
neg. CELIAC PANEL 5/07
ALLERGY: "positive" blood and skin tests to wheat, which triggers his eczema '08
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Gluten-free-Feb. '09
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 04:58 PM

Just thought of something else that I think I mentioned in another thread....Clorox Naturals Dish Detergent is all coconut and exacerbated my symptoms when I was using it on my non stick pans that I wash by hand.

I switched back to Palmolive which is working well for me.
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 06:24 PM

Just thought of something else that I think I mentioned in another thread....Clorox Naturals Dish Detergent is all coconut and exacerbated my symptoms when I was using it on my non stick pans that I wash by hand.

I switched back to Palmolive which is working well for me.


Thanks for the heads up. TJ's is made from coconut oil!

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 06:27 PM

Just thought of something else that I think I mentioned in another thread....

Oye--just realized I mentioned it earlier in this very thread! :ph34r:
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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:42 PM

Sheesh! I was sleeping so well. I stopped using lemons and peppers and my eczema went away. I also stopped using coconut oil and found I could sleep like a baby! But unfortunately tonight I had some leftover pancake that my boyfriend cooked for himself--I forgot til now that he used coconut oil in the pan. Just that little bit and I can't sleep--again!

I guess it makes it pretty clear that I am really allergic to coconut as well as the other above items.

There was an older thread about this, but I thought I would bring it up again.

I just took some ibuprofen. Am hoping it will work. I am going to take some baking soda since it is an allergy.

And no, this isn't due to candida overgrowth die off, I am certain. The eczema that I thought was candida has gone away. It is a clear case of an allergy affecting my nervous system. It makes my sciatic nerves inflamed and causes lumps on the ridges of my top hip bones, making it almost impossible to sleep--despite my having taken a hot bath and done an hour's worth of stretching and yoga earlier tonight and long walks almost every day. Its also inflaming the nerves in my neck. Aach! Its not fair. I am going to have to ask my boyfriend to stop using the coconut oil too... I just can't afford mistakes like this.

Anyone else here have a similar response to coconut oil? Any quick fix remedies? I suppose I will have to ride this out, however it would be nice to know if there are any tried and true remedies on this for my future arsenal...

Bea

Coconut oil is extremely high in salicylates. If it is the salicylates you are reacting to, then Ibuprofen could be adding to you your reaction. If one is allergic to salicylates then they would be unable to use Ibuprofen as it is so closely chemically related that it can cause the same reactions. Neurological reactions are common with salicylic acid allergy/intolerance...ranging from ringing in the ears, to internal angst, migraine headache, despair, restless legs. Fruits are often high in salicylic acid. Celiacs are often allergic to salicylic acid. Just one more thing for you to consider. I found out the hard way about being allergic to aspirin. You can find the symptoms by googling chronic salicylic acid poisoning. The symptoms can occur not only from the medicine but also from salicylic acid containing foods like coconut oil and fruit. Insomnia is also one of those reactions. good luck. Just wanted you to consider this.
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