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I Think I Found A Keeper


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cahill Collaborator

I am not diagnosed . I have been gluten free for about 18 months and still am having some problems . I insisted my PCP ( whom I am about to fire)send me to an endocrinologist (( and an allergist, and gastroenterologists )),,, I take thyroid meds and have some concerns about changes with my thyroid,, So after I INSIST she refer me to an endocrinologist I get the appt and go.

This is the FIRST doc in forever, maybe ever to actually LISTEN TO ME :D

I walked in , not expecting much,just an evaluation of my thyroid and the meds I take.

SHE ACTUALLY LISTEN TO ME when I was talking to her and describing what was going on,my symptoms even those ,maybe, not related to my thyroid.

Then it happened,,,, the first doc to ever bring up celiacs before I do,, she asked if I had been tested for celiacs, I say "" my doc tested me for celiacs after I was gluten free for about 10 months and said it would still show up if I had celiacs even though I was already gluten -free"".

She did not say anything but the look on her face was priceless,,Then she says" did going gluten free help?? :D , I say yes it did tremendously but there is still something else going on .

We talked a bit longer and then she says we need to do a FULL celiac panel and test for some additional autoimmune disease that are associated with celiacs.

I did not feel rush , I felt like she actually listened and HEARD what I was saying . It was worth the 2 hour drive ,each way ,to see her

I think she is a keeper :D

did i mention she actually listened to what I said ^_^

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Glad you found a keeper.It isalways a PLUS when a mainstream doc will actually listen... Would you share the doctors name for others who may be interested...as they are hard to find, good ones that is!! thanks

mamaw

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yay for u :) that's awesome!

even tho sometimes my Gi & Endo r not completely up to date- they are wonderful and spend a lot of time with me & listen. they seem to love their job. my Gi even told me to get online and find some gluten free communities- that i could probably learn more than he knows :)

my Endo took notes during my visit and wanted to do some research- they both seemed to enjoy that i knew what i was talking about and we could kind of talk on a similar level.

my PCP is another story... but whatchya gonna do, right

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FANTASTIC!! She IS a keeper!!! I am very happy for you, chill. :D :D :D

Please, please make sure she checks your B-12 and FOLATE levels???? this is a MAJOR issue in celiac disease and kept me from feeling any better.

BTW, this happened to me too. I was gluten-free for 5 weeks when the functional med doc I consulted did the IgG test and he said it would not affect it and it was neg and we all know that is BS!!!...so I listened to him and went back to eating gluten for another 7 mos, and went waaaay downhill before deciding he was wrong. Went back to the PC doc who said it IS celiac and to stay gluten-free forever--no MATTER WHat THE TEST SAYS-- and now, he is my "keeper" (even tho he could not seem to see it for 3 years and sent me to many other specialists and his own children are celiacs!!!) :blink:

I am wondering...is she asking you to ingest gluten for the test? Because otherwise, won't you just get the same false negative result??

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I am wondering...is she asking you to ingest gluten for the test? Because otherwise, won't you just get the same false negative result??

My PCP Only tested for the gliadin AB (IGA), (TTG) AB,IGA and IGA,SERUM

All came in within negative or normal ranges Because I was gluten free

My new doc is looking at the genetics , I believe it is the DQ2 and DQ8 to see if it is possible that I have celiacs,,

we agreed that with everything else going on doing a gluten challenge is not a good idea.

I am already gluten free and plan on stay that way no matter what.So taking that into consideration her major concern is other auto-immune diseases (possibly associated with celiacs )going undiagnosed

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My PCP Only tested for the gliadin AB (IGA), (TTG) AB,IGA and IGA,SERUM

All came in within negative or normal ranges Because I was gluten free

My new doc is looking at the genetics , I believe it is the DQ2 and DQ8 to see if it is possible that I have celiacs,,

we agreed that with everything else going on doing a gluten challenge is not a good idea.

I am already gluten free and plan on stay that way no matter what.So taking that into consideration her major concern is other auto-immune diseases going undiagnosed

WHEW!! I was so hoping she would not do that to you!

I am going to have the gene test done too because there is no way in hell I am eating it for a biopsy. My GI doc went down there in 2009 and NEVER did the biopsy--I know, what an idiot!!

The gene test is non-invasive and it is not really a diagnostic tool, they tell me, but more of an exclusionary test.

If there's no gene, it's not celiac disease...ALTHOUGH some people have an ODD GENE--NOT DQ2 or DQ8--and so, EVEN this test may not be our confirmation. There are other genes, I guess...sigh...it never ends. There is always the chance we would test NEG for everything, I guess. I don't care . I KNOW what ails me!!

No matter what, we remain gluten-free and as you say, she will follow through with other testing. That is all that matters!

I was relieved to have no other autoimmune stuff show up (whew) --I do have osteoarthritis and severe muscle/joint/bone pain and a ton of other things to keep me busy!!! My thyroid numbers are erratic, but stable for now.

One other thing...insist upon a bone density test if you have not already had one. Osteoporosis is common in us as well and newly diagnosed celiacs MUST have this checked. I am assuming you are my age---born in 1956?? :)

I wish you well!! Keep us posted!!

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WHEW!! I was so hoping she would not do that to you!

I am going to have the gene test done too because there is no way in hell I am eating it for a biopsy. My GI doc went down there in 2009 and NEVER did the biopsy--I know, what an idiot!!

The gene test is non-invasive and it is not really a diagnostic tool, they tell me, but more of an exclusionary test.

If there's no gene, it's not celiac disease...ALTHOUGH some people have an ODD GENE--NOT DQ2 or DQ8--and so, EVEN this test may not be our confirmation. There are other genes, I guess...sigh...it never ends. There is always the chance we would test NEG for everything, I guess. I don't care . I KNOW what ails me!!

No matter what, we remain gluten-free and as you say, she will follow through with other testing. That is all that matters!

I was relieved to have no other autoimmune stuff show up (whew) --I do have osteoarthritis and severe muscle/joint/bone pain and a ton of other things to keep me busy!!! My thyroid numbers are erratic, but stable for now.

One other thing...insist upon a bone density test if you have not already had one. Osteoporosis is common in us as well and newly diagnosed celiacs MUST have this checked. I am assuming you are my age---born in 1956?? :)

I wish you well!! Keep us posted!!

yes, I was born in 1956 :lol: and I had a DEXA scan done last summer and it showed osteoporosis,,,** shrugs shoulders** what do ya do ,,, One of the MAJOR problems I have with my PCP is that she INSISTS I take meds for the osteoporosis and I refuse (( at least for now)) Hey Its my body :P I am trying the weigh bearing exercise and supplements for now :)

I may never have a firm diagnosis of celiacs but I am past caring about that now,,, I truly just want to be healthy and save my children and grandchildren some of the unnecessary pain and suffering I have endured

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I think you are doing the right thing in trying to restore your bone density naturally. There are too many indications that the bone the drugs make is not good bone :( My hubs has improved has bone density naturally. :)

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yay for u :) that's awesome!

even tho sometimes my Gi & Endo r not completely up to date- they are wonderful and spend a lot of time with me & listen. they seem to love their job. my Gi even told me to get online and find some gluten free communities- that i could probably learn more than he knows :)

my Endo took notes during my visit and wanted to do some research- they both seemed to enjoy that i knew what i was talking about and we could kind of talk on a similar level.

my PCP is another story... but whatchya gonna do, right

as I said my PCP is soooo close to being fired :angry: I am just waiting for all the reports to get back to her before I change PCP,, I am not sure how much luck I will have finding a better one though :unsure:

I have an appointment with a gastroenterologists on the 18th of April,,, I could only hope I actually get one that know what they are doing/talking about :unsure:

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Roda Rising Star

I would definatly like the name and location of the endocrinologist you saw too. My mom sees some guy in Erie and I just don't think I agree with him all the time. If need be, this person could be an alternative if she was to ever decide to go elsewhere.

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I would definatly like the name and location of the endocrinologist you saw too. My mom sees some guy in Erie and I just don't think I agree with him all the time. If need be, this person could be an alternative if she was to ever decide to go elsewhere.

I sent you a PM :)

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Roda Rising Star

Thanks!! :)

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I agree with you about the "firm diagnosis"...My PC doctor and I agree...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....it's a damn duck!! :lol:

I hope you get answers. I am glad you are in good hands now.

Maybe your PC doc--like mine--just needs to be "educated" (by you) about celiac. My guy's own children have celiac, yet he was not aware of how it manifests in adults. I bring him info all the time and he graciously accepts it. I think he feels really bad he missed all the signs in me. I am too tired to look for a new PC and I tried a lot of other doctors in the last 3 years and frankly, none of them are in the loop about this. Sigh....not even the gastro office I went to for 12 years!! they bungled this royally...I hear this story repeatedly from so many on here...

What is wrong with this picture??? :blink: No wonder so many are undiagnosed for an average of 11 years in this country.

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LivesIntheSun Apprentice

Are you guys in the States? I need someone like that, but in the UK...

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Are you guys in the States? I need someone like that, but in the UK...

yes I am in the states,, northwestern Pennsylvania ,,I hope your able to find someone good in the UK :)

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