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#1 Darn210

 
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:17 PM

Somebody Help Me!!! I'm being over run by thistle and it's not even May!!!! Every year I have this battle. I spray (Round Up Weed Killer) and I pull . . . and I spray and I pull . . . I've asked advice at nurseries and the recommendations have been to spray (Round Up). . . or to pull. Everytime I pull, I swear two come back. Whenever I spray, sometimes they don't even wilt, sometimes they eventually look like they're gonna die, then they recover or one pops up right next to it. I think I'm losing ground. Anybody out there got something that works???
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:22 PM

Somebody Help Me!!! I'm being over run by thistle and it's not even May!!!! Every year I have this battle. I spray (Round Up Weed Killer) and I pull . . . and I spray and I pull . . . I've asked advice at nurseries and the recommendations have been to spray (Round Up). . . or to pull. Everytime I pull, I swear two come back. Whenever I spray, sometimes they don't even wilt, sometimes they eventually look like they're gonna die, then they recover or one pops up right next to it. I think I'm losing ground. Anybody out there got something that works???

Nuclear war fare! Those things are tough!

Or you could embrace the natural flora and pretend your growing them on purpose.

Seriously- I'll ask around & see if I hear anything. Mostly I've heard digging them out to get the evil roots.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:34 PM

Found this on Wikipedia: might be an issue if you have other plants next to it.

[edit]Weed removal

As a weed, thistles are sometimes thought to be difficult to remove, as they will grow back if cut. However, covering the cut stem with plain table salt will kill the root.[citation needed]



My hub let these grow in his " experimental" flower bed. some of the birds loved them in the fall. This is a section he buys 6 different things he thinks look interesting & sees if any come up next year. Guess what? The thistles did but I yanked them.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:37 PM

Do thistle have a taproot? Perhaps you're not getting all of it. With the way it's been raining almostly daily here in PA, everything is growing like a weed. Another possibility is to buy the concentrated Round Up and mix it with a smaller amount of water in a spray bottle to make an extra strong spray and then spray each plant???

Or you might check with your county extension office to see what they might recommend.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:39 PM

Garden web is is pretty good resourse. It used to be a great resource, but they've gone very commercial, so you have to be patient. :blink:
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:40 PM

My hub let these grow in his " experimental" flower bed.



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What???

On Purpose???


I shall box my thistle up and send it to your hubby? :lol:

I'm not worried about running out as they will grow back within weeks days!!
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:46 PM

Do thistle have a taproot? Perhaps you're not getting all of it.



No way am I getting the whole root as it runs all the way to China. <_<


I'll check into the county extension and Garden Web. I have tried the stronger mix and it didn't seem to help me on the thistle (It did on one of my other hard to kill things).


I tried a product once that seem to do fair not too bad not horrible but I've tried so many products, I can't remember which one it was.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:54 PM

No way am I getting the whole root as it runs all the way to China. Posted Image


Or cut them off and inject them with the Round Up concentrate...isn't it a systemic?
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 03:59 PM

Can you eat them? http://www.livestron...k-milk-thistle/

It's my approach to the nettles....
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 04:20 PM

Janet, the problem is simple. You lack the Scottish heritage that I have. Otherwise you would respect and welcome your thistles.

From Wikipedia:
In the language of flowers, the thistle (like the burr) is an ancient Celtic symbol of nobility of character as well as of birth, for the wounding or provocation of a thistle yields punishment.

The thistle has been the national emblem of Scotland since the reign of Alexander III (1249–1286) and was used on silver coins issued by James III in 1470. It is the symbol of the Order of the Thistle, a high chivalric order of Scotland. It is found in many Scottish symbols and as the name of several Scottish football clubs. The thistle, crowned with the Scottish crown, is the symbol of seven of the eight Scottish Police Forces (the exception being the Northern Constabulary). The thistle is also the emblem of Encyclopædia Britannica, which originated in Edinburgh, Scotland. Carnegie Mellon University features the thistle in its crest.


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Posted 24 April 2011 - 06:05 PM

Can you eat them? http://www.livestron...k-milk-thistle/

It's my approach to the nettles....



Not quite sure if there are different varities, but here in South Louisiana we do eat these. Remove prickly outer skin and peel back "bark" (sort of like a celery stalk, you must "shave" the outer casing). Wash. Cut into small rings (sort of like onion rings) add salt, pepper and vinegar. One of our favorite sprintime treats.....Awesome gluten free salad.....
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 06:20 PM

Janet, the problem is simple. You lack the Scottish heritage that I have. Otherwise you would respect and welcome your thistles.

From Wikipedia:
In the language of flowers, the thistle (like the burr) is an ancient Celtic symbol of nobility of character as well as of birth, for the wounding or provocation of a thistle yields punishment.


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yeah . . . OK . . . my theory on this is that the Scottish couldn't figure out how to get rid of them either!!! :P
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 06:21 PM

Not quite sure if there are different varities, but here in South Louisiana we do eat these. Remove prickly outer skin and peel back "bark" (sort of like a celery stalk, you must "shave" the outer casing). Wash. Cut into small rings (sort of like onion rings) add salt, pepper and vinegar. One of our favorite sprintime treats.....Awesome gluten free salad.....


I can guarantee that I would be the only one in the house to even try it . . . unless . . . they're not bacon flavored are they? More power to ya', Wenmin!!! Jess, If you would like to try it, I'd be more than happy to ship you some, although I don't think I have the milk thistle variety.

There are different varieties from what I've been reading and I'm not sure which one(s) I've got. The Canada thistle is suppose to be a tough one to get rid of . . . tenacious with deep roots and all . . . Peter!!! come get yer thistle out of my yard!!!
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 08:14 PM

Sometimes cement will get rid of them... :ph34r: at least for as long as it takes them to crack it and get through again....... :huh:
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 02:52 PM

As a Master Gardener I garden organically BUT in your situation one thing you can do is dip a sponge into Roundup and dab it on the thistle, carefully avoiding surrounding lawn or whatever. But as you know, that can take even longer than gluten-free shopping! :lol: Man, I detest those things! If even a teeny bit of the root is nicked more roots appear. So, when digging them, you must get the entire thing, all the way to China. ;) Some use at least 10% acetic acid but the re-growth rate is fairly high. It can help a bit, though. Have you tried those dandelion diggers you insert into the soil and twist? They can really work but the soil needs to be a bit moist plus it can be back breaking work if you have lots.

But as mentioned several times already, they are tasty eating! Try them instead of arugula as a bed for perfectly-cooked steak or make an oil in your blender to drizzle on things. Also good with carpaccio. But I know you just want to get rid of them (and I don't blame you - except the Scottish thistles that are so very pretty, especially in front of an atmospheric Scottish castle with drizzling rain and a lone piper playing...)
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