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What If My Chicken Eats Wheat?


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#1 missingtortillas

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 10:28 AM

My ex-mother in law works at one of the grocery stores in the meat department and she met a woman who told her that she cannot eat chicken because they eat "feed" which contain gluten. I really didn't think this was a problem because it's digested or what ever. However, she's convinced. Apparently there's expensive chicken that have not consumed gluten but is this really necessary? Anyone else have any thoughts? :huh:
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Posted 27 June 2011 - 10:39 AM

The animal turns the feed into bones, muscles, etc just like you do with your food. If you cut my son open, he doesn't bleed peanut butter. If what the animals ate was a problem, people allergic to grass or corn couldn't eat beef.
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#3 Mizzo

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 01:21 PM

Simple answer is NO it's not true in anyway.
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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:22 PM

If you cut my son open, he doesn't bleed peanut butter.


Hahahaha.

This would apply to my son as well, although with the amount of peanut butter he's consumed so far this summer, he just may bleed it. :D
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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:40 PM

I don't have an explanation, but there is a lady who came to our GiG group for a while who cannot eat chicken fed on soy. Chicken fed on corn is fine, but chicken fed on soy makes her ill. She apparently has done deliberate blind testing on this and can tell every time.
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#6 Jestgar

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:57 PM

Perhaps, but chickens aren't meant to eat soy, they are meant to eat grains.
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 07:12 AM

Animals that eat wheat are safe for us to consume. There's no question about this.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:16 AM

Chickens shouldn't eat soy. The main issue we have is feeding the chickens and rabbits. A sensitive person just couldn't do it, and even if they can't feel it, a celiac shouldn't. maybe gloves and a mask and careful washing up?
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:54 AM

f you cut my son open, he doesn't bleed peanut butter.


Hahaha!! I'm going to use that one :)
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 12:26 PM

i dont know about meat... but grass fed beef tastes better. i DID read that cows cant digest wheat and that grass fed beef is higher in the right kind of fats. the grass fed beef i get looks a lot more like deer meat- maybe it's better quality for us- but i never think there is gluten in meat.

DAIRY may be a different story- as they have been able to find gluten in breast milk- so it could be dangerous. ???

i seriously got intestinal pain from beef one time- but i think it could have been cross contamination. ever since that time- i have asked the meat guy at whole foods to change his gloves before getting my beef- u know - they could have handled one of the pre-made breaded chicken cuts. i have not had a problem since.

i also finally found pasture raised eggs at whole foods. tho, i dont know if i was concerned too much about gluten. i was more concerned on how they raised the chickens. because the other labels of cage free are misleading- they could still be packed in a barn unhumanely.
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Posted 08 July 2011 - 06:34 AM

My thoughts on this are that people are crazy. There is a woman at my fiancee's work who told him that her daughter was a celiac but Jesus healed her and that I should go to church more if I want to be healed.
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Posted 08 July 2011 - 07:16 AM

Chickens shouldn't eat soy. The main issue we have is feeding the chickens and rabbits. A sensitive person just couldn't do it, and even if they can't feel it, a celiac shouldn't. maybe gloves and a mask and careful washing up?


I feed our chickens and I hate it. I switched them from mash to pellets to cut down on the dust but it's still a "hold my breath, act quick, scrub up after" job. The lady at the feed store looked at me like I was crazy when I asked her if it was possible to feed laying hens gluten free.
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Posted 08 July 2011 - 09:23 AM

Even pastured hens get feed. We have ours out in the yard but they get (organic, no GMO) feed, too. Chickens have evolved to eat grains. That's totally different for cows! Cows fed on grain in feed lots have truly disgusting health problems. I'm on my phone so I'm not finding the articles now, but there is science to show that the fat from CAFO raised cows is different (and bad for you) from the fat from pastured cows.
Another thing that can be an issue is that FDA requires meat to be processed with citric acid which is usually derived from GMO corn to 'decontaminate' it. In my state, meat sold locally can use ODA rules instead, which allows vinegar. Obviously if you raise your own the FDA isn't involved.
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ds - age 11, hospitalized 9/2010, celiac dx by gluten reaction & genetics. No biopsy or blood as we were already gluten-free by the time it was an option.
dd - age 12.5, not celiac, has Tourette's syndome
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Posted 08 July 2011 - 12:56 PM

How about eggs? I am finding that corn is a major problem for me, and of course chicken feed is corn. Please don't ell me I have to give up eggs! I started getting better, then ate corn and got sick again. That seemed to trigger something, because now I can't even eat Udi's because of the corn starch in it. If I'm super sensitive to corn, do you think I should avoid eggs too?
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Posted 08 July 2011 - 04:45 PM

How about eggs? I am finding that corn is a major problem for me, and of course chicken feed is corn. Please don't ell me I have to give up eggs! I started getting better, then ate corn and got sick again. That seemed to trigger something, because now I can't even eat Udi's because of the corn starch in it. If I'm super sensitive to corn, do you think I should avoid eggs too?


Laying hens don't eat much if any corn. It makes them fat and doesn't have enough protein to induce laying. And even if they did it shouldn't come through the egg otherwise none of us could eat eggs because laying pellets are almost 100% gluten grains.
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Gluten free since April 6, 2011 ~ Also sensitive to coconut, coffee and food dyes

Joint pain, mouth sores, back and neck pain, migraines, stomach pain, chronic fatigue, ADD and depression are all gone.
Wishing I had been diagnosed before celiac robbed me of the cartilage in my toes and the 3 babies we lost to miscarriages.



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