Jump to content

Follow Us:  Twitter Facebook RSS Feed            




   arrowShare this page:
   

   Get email alerts  Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts

 
Celiac.com Sponsor:                                    


Photo
- - - - -

Argghh !. Why Is It So Hard To Find Out What's Happening ?!.


  • Please log in to reply

36 replies to this topic

#1 Manonfire

 
Manonfire

    New Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 22 posts
 

Posted 05 July 2011 - 10:10 AM

Sorry I need to vent a little. Home alone and extremely annoyed.

I've 19 , male , been ill now and underweight for about 6 months. I feel sick at night after eating pretty much anything. Severley constipated for up to 2 to 3 weeks at a time despite a high fibre diet and lots of excerise and water. My skin has gone terrible and I just generally feel horrible.

I went to see a gastroenterologist privately ( after my gp didn't think I needed one ) and he was shocked I hadn't been referred. He said he'd seen people die heavier than me.

He thought I might have had Chrons of Celiac desease and I had an endoscopy and CT scan done as well as blood tests.
After about two months of waiting they told me I had nothing but acid reflux. No way that's all that's going on , no chance.
So I cut out wheat anyway , it's been about 2 months now. Annoyingly I've not felt any better at all and I've not gained any weight whatsoever. In fact I've probably lost it. I still feel ill , get sick after eating , wake up sweating and nearly throwing up every night unless I stay up until around half 5 in the morning and go to sleep only when I'm absolutley shattered and my body literally can't get back out of bed ( it's sad I've learnt this is the only way to actually sleep ).

So here's the reason I'm so mad. My gasterentorologist told me there way absolutley no chance I was celiac and today I went back to my GP after having allergy tests the week before. He said " you have countless possible allergies but a definete allergy to wheat , although you've tested negativley to celiac desease ".

I asked him what the difference was and he said " technically nothing ". I'm sorry but what the hell does that mean ?.

They've requested I start eating wheat again and have blood tests in two weeks. The thing I'm so mad about is even if I am celiac I don't think that's what's making me feel ill. I've cut it out for 2 months now and can't see any benifit whatsoever.
Oh and I was lacking folic acid but now I'm not and I'm lacking B12. As of today haven't been to the toilet for exactly 2 weeks and I'm not taking laxatives since they always make it worse after I've been. Psyillium Husk everyday and fingers crossed I go soon.

This is a nightmare !. I just want to know what's wrong , there's absolutley nothing I can do until I know. I've tried everything.
It's possible i could start eating wheat again for this test , it comes back negative but I am celiac and then I've put it back in to my body and they still wont belive me. This is making me really depressed and I have to literally beg them to get sick notes since I can barely even type on here never mind go to work. and they think I'm just being lazy !. On top of this I've had prostate enlargment and prostatitis since being 12 and that keeps me up all night.

Argh !.
  • 1

Celiac.com Sponsor:

#2 mushroom

 
mushroom

    Mushroom

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,448 posts
 

Posted 05 July 2011 - 11:01 AM

Hi, manonfire, and welcome.

I am so sorry you are having such a tough time of it, with such frustrating testing results.

First let me say that it is possible to test negative for celiac disease and still be intolerant to gluten. There are many posters on here with negative testing results who have recovered on a gluten free diet. It is also possible to be both intolerant of wheat and allergic to wheat. Gluten intolerance is an autoimmune reaction, not an allergic reaction, meaning that gluten causes the body to attack itself, rather than the body reacting directly as in allergy.

Frankly, if you have already tested negative to gluten, I see little point in eating it for only two weeks and then being retested. It is normally recommended for a gluten challenge that you consume gluten for at least two months (the equivalent of three to four slices of bread per day) before retesting because that's how long it takes to reactivate the gluten antibodies in the blood and to redamage the small intestine for the biopsy (if done).

Now we get to the frustrating part of lack of improvement on the gluten free diet. It is quite possible that you have more than a gluten intolerance, and that this is preventing you from healing. Many of us cannot digest lactose in milk until we heal, some cannot tolerate any dairy at first (or ever). Many of us are also intolerant of soy and corn, and there are lots of other foods like the nightshade family (potatoes and tomatoes among others) that mess us up.

I would suggest that you go to a very basic whole food diet of meat, vegetables and fruit, perhaps rice and nuts and seeds. Make sure to cook all your vegetables, peel the tough skins off any fruits like apple and pear (or maybe cook them too - applesauce, anyone?). If you cannot feel better on this reduce your diet even further until you find things you can eat without problem. Try to get your fiber from fruits and vegetables and drop the psyllium at first. You may have to do some imodium at first to avoid getting too blocked up. Do not eat any processed foods or any grains (you may even have to leave out rice). Try this for a couple of weeks and see how it works for you. Do not drink any sodas or eat anything with artificial sweeteners - no cokes!! Drink plenty of water. Yeah, it sounds pretty blah, but if you can reach that point where what you eat doesn't bother you then you can start adding one thing in at a time and identify the culprits. It's a long process but it is so worth it.

Fire away with any questions, but this is what I would recommend. Others might have some additional ideas.
  • 0
Neroli


"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." - Albert Einstein

"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"

"Whatever the question, the answer is always chocolate." Nigella Lawson

------------

Caffeine free 1973
Lactose free 1990
(Mis)diagnosed IBS, fibromyalgia '80's and '90's
Diagnosed psoriatic arthritis 2004
Self-diagnosed gluten intolerant, gluten-free Nov. 2007
Soy free March 2008
Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
(Totally) corn free Nov. 2009
Legume free March 2010
Now tolerant of lactose

Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator

#3 Skylark

 
Skylark

    Glutenologist

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,490 posts
 

Posted 05 July 2011 - 11:12 AM

I'm so sorry to hear how sick you are. It sounds terrible.

Mushroom covered just about everything I was thinking. Wheat allergy and celiac is nowhere near the same and I don't know why a doctor would say that. Maybe by "technically nothing" he means that both are treated by eliminating wheat, although with celiac you also eliminate rye and barley.
  • 0

#4 Manonfire

 
Manonfire

    New Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 22 posts
 

Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:19 PM

Hi guys , thank you for the replies and support. I really appreciate it.
I'm not the type of person to get annoyed easily so sorry if I seemed a little angry in my first post , I'm just exhausted from all of this.

I think cutting out everything other than basic vegetables , some fruits and meat is a good idea. I only really drink water now but I do drink the occasional fizzy drink since I'm always feeling so tired since I'm not getting much sleep feeling ill. I'll stop this completely now , anything that makes me feel better.

I was actually speaking to a body builder ( the difference between us was incredible lol ) and he reccomended I do the same since that was all he ate apart from nuts also. He'd have 6 meals a day and 5 of them were 7oz of chicken ( or two different types of fish per day to mix it up ) and grean beans !.

Obviously I could include more myself but if he can live on this and be as big as he was surely I can do something similar and at least get the body fat back I was missing. At the moment my diet consists of mainly 3 meals.

A tin of beans in the morning ( for the fibre , they apparently contain 15g of it ).

A salad whih has lettuce , raw carrots , hummas ( for the fat ) , sweetcorn , chicken , ocassionaly tomato and spinach ( for the B12 ).
I also add to this avacado when I have them for more fat and fibre too.

The next meal I'd sometimes have later on in the day but not always would be basmati rice with peas , onion and chicken again.

I'm not really snacking on anything anymore as I fear it's going to make me ill. I used to look like a footballer and now I look like a gremlin lol !. I'm scared to eat if I'm honest.

I think from now on I'm going to make my meals much more simple , I think I'm going to request a copy of the " possible allergies " to maybe get an idea or see if anything specific came up that come be the cause.

One thing that worries me that's sort of a catch 22 is that dropping so much stuff out of my diet whilst being underweight might be a bad idea ?.

Could alergies cause weight loss rather that being Celiac ?.
Thanks again for all the help.
  • 1

#5 Skylark

 
Skylark

    Glutenologist

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,490 posts
 

Posted 05 July 2011 - 05:24 PM

You have so many symptoms I just don't know. Are you eating dairy-free as well as gluten-free? Some celiacs have the same reaction to milk casein as to gluten. Maybe you need a better doctor too. :(
  • 0

#6 Manonfire

 
Manonfire

    New Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 22 posts
 

Posted 06 July 2011 - 02:05 PM

Hi ,

yeah I''ve been gluten free and dairy free now for a while and theres nothing obvious I'm eating that I could see might be causing a problem. Since having two b12 jabs in 2 days now knock on wood I've not felt as sick but annoyingly now I'm having a really hard time catching my breath !. I can't win lol. I got the possible allergy results today from the doctors and they were very similar to what a local chemist said I was intolerant to. The doctors told me not to listen to the chemist yet their results are almost identical.

It's a definite wheat allergy..
Possible dairy ( which I avoid anyway )
Possible walnut and peanut allergy ( which again I avoid anyway ).

I'll update this thread if anything else happens.
  • 0

#7 frieze

 
frieze

    Advanced Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,093 posts
 

Posted 07 July 2011 - 12:16 PM

Hi ,

yeah I''ve been gluten free and dairy free now for a while and theres nothing obvious I'm eating that I could see might be causing a problem. Since having two b12 jabs in 2 days now knock on wood I've not felt as sick but annoyingly now I'm having a really hard time catching my breath !. I can't win lol. I got the possible allergy results today from the doctors and they were very similar to what a local chemist said I was intolerant to. The doctors told me not to listen to the chemist yet their results are almost identical.

It's a definite wheat allergy..
Possible dairy ( which I avoid anyway )
Possible walnut and peanut allergy ( which again I avoid anyway ).

I'll update this thread if anything else happens.

taking that much B12 make sure you are getting ample potassium
  • 0

#8 Manonfire

 
Manonfire

    New Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 22 posts
 

Posted 08 July 2011 - 05:01 PM

Up at 2 am and feel like horrible again , like I'm dying.
I feel really sick , I'm shaking , my heart is pounding , my stomach is hurting.
How I hate moaning on an internet forum but when I haven't got a clue what's going on and the doctors don't either what else can I do ?!.
I've been trying to eat more to gain weight but end up feeling ill. I've ate no wheat , dairy or anything that I think could cause me problems for days now. I also feel like my emotions go really haywire , like I suddenly feel like there's no point in being alive and that I'm about to die and start panicking. I feel like I want to burst into tears. I'm not like that at all when I feel normal. This is driving me insane !.

Can full allergy testing be done , for things like lettuce , beans and more obscure things ?, since I only had a basic test for the few most common things.

I'm thinking it might not even be linked to what I'm eating anymore. I have acid reflux , I'm not sure if I mentioned that and I tend to feel a little sick after eating but the way I feel now after not eating for hours it can't be that. I feel too bad , it's not that simple.

I was thinking anxiety since I've noticed some days when I get excited or look forward to something the next day , I'll wake up in my sleep feeling like this or not get to sleep at all. Then again it can happen when I'm doing nothing at all the next day , or even the next week so to be honest I've got no idea whats going on.
I'd go and see a specialist but a specialist of what ?.

Urghh..
  • 1

#9 mushroom

 
mushroom

    Mushroom

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,448 posts
 

Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:00 PM

I do feel your pain. Can you tell us what you are eating??? Sometimes there is a clue there. And for some of us the journey is longer than for others. I have an intolerance to lectins as well as to gluten, and you will see the things I have eliminated in my signature. That should also include quinoa and today I added amaranth to it, so it looks like all the high nutrient grains are gone. I have had the pounding heart, the shaking, the pains in arms, shoulders, hands, the heart irregularities (have ended up in hospital with atrial fibrillation that won't quit) etc, Some of us have to keep food on our stomach by eating many small meals - I know I do, or my stomach starts digesting itself and producing bloat. Don't know if any of this is helpful,, but do know that many of us have fought through these apparently insoluble food intolerances to find out exactly what they are and what helps. The doctors don't know -- you are really on your own here. That's why it's best to eat as few foods as possible to find something you tolerate and then add things back in one at a time.
  • 0
Neroli


"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." - Albert Einstein

"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"

"Whatever the question, the answer is always chocolate." Nigella Lawson

------------

Caffeine free 1973
Lactose free 1990
(Mis)diagnosed IBS, fibromyalgia '80's and '90's
Diagnosed psoriatic arthritis 2004
Self-diagnosed gluten intolerant, gluten-free Nov. 2007
Soy free March 2008
Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
(Totally) corn free Nov. 2009
Legume free March 2010
Now tolerant of lactose

Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator

#10 a1956chill

 
a1956chill

    Advanced Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,365 posts
 

Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:21 PM

I do feel your pain. Can you tell us what you are eating??? Sometimes there is a clue there. And for some of us the journey is longer than for others. I have an intolerance to lectins as well as to gluten, and you will see the things I have eliminated in my signature. That should also include quinoa and today I added amaranth to it, so it looks like all the high nutrient grains are gone. I have had the pounding heart, the shaking, the pains in arms, shoulders, hands, the heart irregularities (have ended up in hospital with atrial fibrillation that won't quit) etc, Some of us have to keep food on our stomach by eating many small meals - I know I do, or my stomach starts digesting itself and producing bloat. Don't know if any of this is helpful,, but do know that many of us have fought through these apparently insoluble food intolerances to find out exactly what they are and what helps. The doctors don't know -- you are really on your own here. That's why it's best to eat as few foods as possible to find something you tolerate and then add things back in one at a time.

When I eat amaranth I get pains in the middle of my chest,,feels like i am having a heart attack. Totally isolated to amaranth .
Quinoa upsets my stomach no matter how well I rinse it .
  • 0

Gluten free Oct/09
Soy free Nov/10

numerous additional intolerances,, i.e. If it tries to kill me I do not eat it .
After 40+ years of misdiagnoses I was diagnosed with:
Dermatitis Herpetiformis : Positive DH biopsy...... Celiac :based on DH biopsy and diet response.

Osteoporosis before  age 50
Hashimoto's thyroiditis disease .

Diagnosed type 2 Diabetes 

Osteoarthritis

Gilbert's Syndrome , confirmed by gene testing


#11 IrishHeart

 
IrishHeart

    Warrior Princess

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,558 posts
 

Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:40 AM

You sound like me six months ago. Including being up all night with pain, crying and feeling like death from malabsorption. Both a folate and B-12 deficiency can cause major anxiety, depression, insomnia, heart palpitations and fatigue.

I trust you are having those treated? Hang in there because it takes a few months to reverse those deficiencies.

Okay, here are a few suggestions that worked for me. I was a MESS of GI BURNING from mouth to you know where and could not sleep more than 1 or 2 hours a night for over a year. I was "revved up" 24/7 shaking and feeling as if I would go mad. I either had chronic diarrhea or constipation that made me suffer with pain.

Now, for the first time in my life, I am "normal". :) Maybe this will help you.

Avoid RAW veggies for now. I know there are people who are raw foodies and they are very healthy, but right now, your GI tract is really upset and even those will cause digestive upset. Hubby even bought a juicer and I tried to drink raw juices when I was emaciated and no food would stay in me--and that was like pouring battery acid down there. Until the GI tract heals, anything may be an irritant.

No coffee, tea or chocolate, citrus or tomatoes. Just for a while.

Take probiotics. Make sure they are gluten-free and DF. They helped me get "regular". No need for psyllium. (Some psyllium powders have CC issues with GLUTEN BTW.) The reason why probiotics help is because leaky guts have an imbalance of gut flora.

Try digestive enzymes. They help with protein, carb and fat absorption. Take them before each meal.

BEANS are very difficult to digest and eating them from a tin for breakfast may be just too much right now. Hold off on beans for a bit.

Drink a LOT of pure water. This will help your sluggish bowels more than anything else. I mean .... half your body weight in ounces a day!!! Stop at 7PM so you aren't getting up at night.

Eat plain chicken, rice, steamed veggies, sweet potatoes baked in the oven (wash them, pierce with a knife, & put them in a baking dish because they will ooze juice)--350 degrees for 1 hour until fork tender.

Avoid spices.

Eat small portions of protein blanced with a carb (like almond butter on a peeled apple, for example) a few times a day. This will keep blood sugars balanced and your body fueled.

I suffer from massive muscle mass lost from this disease and I am trying to regain it. I try to eat a lot of protein. But my rehab will take years. I work with a physical therapist and a massage therapist. You are much younger than I am and will likely see results much faster!

There is a definite link between bladder probems, IC, pelvic floor pain and prostatitis and gluten. Since diagnosis and eliminating gluten, my severe pelvic and bladder pain has dimished greatly. But I still suffer from burning pain and weak muscles and have nerve pain in areas that are "delicate". The PT says that's inflammation and will die down in time. She treats both men and women with pelvic pain and prostatitis and IC and sees a definite link with gluten intolerance. There are some articles that suggest bowel swelling pushes on those muscles, tissues, organs and ligaments and when the inflammation from the gluten stops, so does the pressure and pain. Perhaps this would also give you relief from the prostate pain. Hope so!

Focus on pure water, pure fruits and veggies and good protein, protein, protein.

This is no quick fix, I know---it took me many months for the bowels to become "normal". But THEY DID!! I have no more acid reflux either. I was treated witrh drugs for that and "irritable bowel" for over 12 years :angry: and nothing worked--- until I was FINALLY DXed and took out gluten, dairy and soy. I still have issues to resolve, but at least things are healing.

You can do this! Hang in there and let us know how you are doing.
  • 1

"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else" Booker T. Washington

“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; Finally Diagnosed with Celiac  11/01/10.  Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win. bliss-smiley-emoticon.gif


#12 Manonfire

 
Manonfire

    New Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 22 posts
 

Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:53 AM

Well I've been having a vegetable and chicken diet , just lots of it for the past week or so and last night I woke up with my stomach on fire. Something I've never experienced before. Almost as if my stomach was dipped in acid. I was in pain through the night but managed to fight through it and eventually get back to sleep.

I ended up waking up at 2pm feeling better since I fell asleep so late. I was starving but scared to eat anything , I ate a small gluten free , dairy free choclate bar since I didn't want to eat anything big and to be honest because I dind't feel like preparing a meal. 10 minutes late my stomach is on fire again. I'm gonna run out to a walk in clinic now and see what they say.

I have a follow up appointment with my gastroenterologist in September but I really need to get it pushed forward I think. Regardless of my diet things seem to just be getting worse day by day. I'm updating this thread to hopefully look back one day and be able to post that I've worked everything out and feel better. I can't belive how I used to take my health for granted.

I'm blaming myself recenetley for the diet I used to have. It wasn't bad but if I'd have known this was going to happen I'd have lived like a monk or something lol !.
  • 1

#13 quilteddoll

 
quilteddoll

    New Community Member

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 3 posts
 

Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:36 AM

I can understand your frustration. I was not diagnosed as being celiac, until the age of 32. I was diagnosed on symptoms alone; all of my tests that they did at that time were negative even though I was a full blown celiac. The biopsy was not done until I was on a gluten free diet for 5 years. No way was I ingesting gluten for anyone. I wish I could tell you that you will find answers right away. If going on a gluten free diet relieves most of your symptoms; do it, but you must be diligent and eliminate all gluten , including medications and cross contamination. This is very frustrating for someone starting out so do join gluten free support groups . I have been gluten free for 25 years and still must be diligent. Hang in there .
  • 0

#14 shadowicewolf

 
shadowicewolf

    Advanced Community Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,768 posts
 

Posted 14 July 2011 - 12:32 PM

i think part of the problem is that you do have acid reflux (thus the acidy feeling stomach). You need to try to eat something startchy (sweet potatos/banana/etc), and to eat often.

Its a pain, i know, but once you can figure out what it takes to get it under control, it'll help.
  • 0

#15 IrishHeart

 
IrishHeart

    Warrior Princess

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,558 posts
 

Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:56 AM

Well I've been having a vegetable and chicken diet , just lots of it for the past week or so and last night I woke up with my stomach on fire. Something I've never experienced before. Almost as if my stomach was dipped in acid. I was in pain through the night but managed to fight through it and eventually get back to sleep.

I ended up waking up at 2pm feeling better since I fell asleep so late. I was starving but scared to eat anything , I ate a small gluten free , dairy free choclate bar since I didn't want to eat anything big and to be honest because I dind't feel like preparing a meal. 10 minutes late my stomach is on fire again. I'm gonna run out to a walk in clinic now and see what they say.

I have a follow up appointment with my gastroenterologist in September but I really need to get it pushed forward I think. Regardless of my diet things seem to just be getting worse day by day. I'm updating this thread to hopefully look back one day and be able to post that I've worked everything out and feel better. I can't belive how I used to take my health for granted.

I'm blaming myself recenetley for the diet I used to have. It wasn't bad but if I'd have known this was going to happen I'd have lived like a monk or something lol !.


Okay, let's try and figure this out.... you had a strict veg and chicken diet for a week and --did you feel any better? and that's it? that's all you ate--chicken and vegs?? any liquids? then, it burned again--so what did you eat/drink THAT day to provoke it? spices? coffee or tea? OJ?

Try writing down what you are eating so you can see what's creating the problem.

I just re-read your original post--you said you avoid WHEAT--but you realize that GLUTEN is also in rye and barley, right? Something that says it is wheat-free is not necessarily gluten free if it has malt or rye or any other hidden gluten in it. You have to be strict about label-reading and that is why PLAIN food is best at the beginning to get your stomach/bowel issues under control.

No point in beating yourself up for the "past" diet you had. I did the same thing, but the truth is---we can't change the past, control a genetic predisposition to gluten sensitivity or feel "guilty" over things we had not control over. Let that go, hon!

You CAN control your diet now and I think I mentioned chocolate was a rough one for stomach acid. I know you do not feel like cooking when you feel so rotten (me, too) and I know you want a quick fix, but seriously??? Gluten-free products, especially ones with chocolate :unsure: are NOT going to help heal your sore stomach.
Try avoiding specialty made products as they have many ingredients (like soy or corn, gums) that may not be easy for you to digest just yet.

Plain foods. Digestive enzymes. Water.

Many celiacs actually have too little stomach acid, not too much, but the symptoms are the same.

I know it is difficult. My stomach/throat burned so bad and I wanted to die . It was like having a heart attack every day. Doubled over and awake all night. Gruesome. For 3 years. No acid reducing medication helped one bit. After I went gluten-free and started to eat more PLAIN foods (no citrus, coffee, chocolate), used digestive enzymes and probiotics, it stopped. It took some time to get it to stop, but it stopped.

What did they say at the walk-in clinic?? Probably, take tums or prilosec??? Unfortunately,they symptom-treat in this country, never solve the CAUSE. They will just say your tests results are "fine". We ALL heard that rap.

As I--and the others-- have suggested to you, it may take some time for you to get to a place where the inflammation dies down, but you have to be diligent about what foods you are eating and what is provoking the response.

Hope you feel better soon.
  • 0

"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else" Booker T. Washington

“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; Finally Diagnosed with Celiac  11/01/10.  Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win. bliss-smiley-emoticon.gif





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Celiac.com Sponsors: