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"drunk" After Eating Other Foods Like Broccoli, Rutabega, Avocado, Banana?
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I've been gluten free for almost 2 years now. I also do not eat any grain or soy as I notice that they bring on the Celiac symptoms (hypoglycemia, etc).

However, I have reactions to other foods --- and my reaction is always the same. The next morning after eating certain foods like broccoli, rutabega, cauliflower, sweet potato, banana, avocado and a million others, I act "DRUNK" all day. It never happens RIGHT after eating the food. It is always a day later. The next morning, I wake up feeling so weak from fatigue I can't walk. I have to be carried some mornings. The brain fog is so bad I can't think of how to form sentences. I'll feel like I have not slept in 3 weeks. Sometimes I also have vision blackouts and can't see walls or anything in front of me for 10 seconds. By afternoon the fatigue is unbearable and I fall into a 5-7 hour nap. Upon waking in the evening, it takes about 2 hours to completely "wake up" and I sit like a zombie. By nightfall, I have recovered and I feel normal again. I'll feel fine until I eat too much of the wrong food and then it starts all over. In the beginning I did see doctors about this but they were baffled. I was not hypoglycemic. They told me I must be imagining the symptoms.

I have now learned to live with these handicapping food sensitivities:

I can eat 1 banana, but not 2.

I can eat 1/2 sweet potato, but more is out of the question.

I can't touch broccoli --even a crumb-- because I'll be asleep for 10 hours the next day.

So I must ration all of my food and eat everything in tiny, measured quantities. This only began happening when my Celiac Disease was activated.

I think the sensitivity to banana has lessened. If I even had a bite of banana, I'd be drunk the next day... but now I can eat a whole banana. So I'm hoping this isn't a permanent condition.

Of course doctors are baffled and can't help me. So I'm looking for others...

HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS?!!?!?!

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That sounds awful. You poor thing.

A couple ideas. With the vision problems, that sounds a lot like either ocular migraine or a partial complex seizure. The crash almost sounds more like a seizure than migraine. Did your doctors ever run an EEG while you were experiencing the vision blackouts?

I've also been reading like crazy about gut dysbiosis lately. Sometimes you can get neuro symptoms if you are unlucky enough to have toxic bacteria in your gut. Eat the wrong food, they grow, release endotoxin, and it crosses a leaky gut wall and makes you sick. You'd do something like the GAPS diet with a lot of probiotics to fix that issue. Your trigger foods don't make a lot of sense though. Sweet potatoes and bananas have a lot of carbs that can feed bacteria, but I don't understand the broccoli or avocado.

Well, that's my two cents' worth. I'm sure you'll get other ideas.

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Wow! That's tough!

Here's a thought. What if you went to a doc that hasn't seen you before? Maybe even get someone to take you to the ER when this is happening. Don't mention a tie to food. At least not the first appointment. Get them to see & evaluate what is happening and not dismiss you as a nut.

In fact, I just looked over your reactions again. I think it would be quite appropriate to go to the ER.

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I already went to the ER when it was happening (before I knew it was food related). After various tests they sent me home saying they didn't know what the problem was. I have never had luck with doctors :P.

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Do you have any vommitting? I am currently looking up more information on Lysinuric protein intolerance. But those don't seem like high protein foods.

I am looking at more charts of "allergic" reactions. Some reactions to food can be so varied and affect the body on such different levels.

Trying to solve an issue with Eosinophilic Esophagitus. (It's a long story, but after today's events... This is ridiculus. ((Not your situation, my situation.))

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I only have extreme nausea after eating salt. I developed a sensitivity to it about a month ago. If I don't drink 2-3 cups of water with every small sprinkling of salt, I develop a migraine and extreme nausea that lasts all day long and into the night. And its sea salt!

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Can't sea salt have a higher concentration of iodine? That would seem like Celiac and the "sister" disease D.H.

There are also adrenal issues that salt consumption affects. (The ones that I can think of are the ones when people are craving and eating way too much because of the problem.)

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Have you ever seen a good allergist who deals with intolerances as well as true allergies? One might be helpful. If you are calling around to find one do make sure that you ask if they deal with intolerances when making an appointment as not all do. One that deals with intolerances will test you for true allergies and then after a detailed list of what you usually eat will give you a starting point for a safe elimination diet. Can't say that they will be able to figure things out for sure but might be worth a try.

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you might want to check over at the Salicylate Sensitivity forum for their suggestions.

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I was reading Discover's magazines new issue last night. One the last page they have an article entitled '20 Things you never knew about alcohol'. In it they state that a candida infection when severe can cause the body to convert foods into alcohol within the system. I wonder if perhaps that is what is going on with you. Have you ever been checked for a candida infection? Maybe check with your GP about the possibility?

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Have you ever been checked for a candida infection? Maybe check with your GP about the possibility?

I was just thinking that, although the broccoli part wouldn't fit with that, I don't think. Not that there couldn't be multiple issues involved - argh, why are bodies so annoylingly complicated sometimes?!

Food allergy is also possible. Some allergic reactions are delayed by 24-48 hours, even. For one of my food allergies, feeling completely exhausted and just wanting to utterly pass out is very common. I get a very severe brain-fog-like reaction from another of my food allergies. These are both allergies that have been tested and seen on the food journal with these reactions, so I consider it sort of verified as an allergy and not something else, you know?

My allergist at the time said that there is still quite a bit about allergies that we don't know, and that a lot of mild allergies don't give hives or rashes but completely different symptoms. There are even allergies that we only react to if we get foods in combination with each other! :blink: And many of these also don't show up on allergy tests - in my allergist's opinion, allergy tests are good for detecting more severe allergies, but have a pretty bad record for milder allergies.

The fact that you have to limit the amount you eat would mesh with an allergist or intolerance, too. Although it would likely mesh with candida being a problem, as well.

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I was reading Discover's magazines new issue last night. One the last page they have an article entitled '20 Things you never knew about alcohol'. In it they state that a candida infection when severe can cause the body to convert foods into alcohol within the system. I wonder if perhaps that is what is going on with you. Have you ever been checked for a candida infection? Maybe check with your GP about the possibility?

Are there physicians who handle candida infections? Is there a reliable test I can take on my own to see if I have a bad candida infection? Is there a test I can request at the doctor's office?

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I've been gluten free for almost 2 years now. I also do not eat any grain or soy as I notice that they bring on the Celiac symptoms (hypoglycemia, etc).

However, I have reactions to other foods --- and my reaction is always the same. The next morning after eating certain foods like broccoli, rutabega, cauliflower, sweet potato, banana, avocado and a million others, I act "DRUNK" all day. It never happens RIGHT after eating the food. It is always a day later. The next morning, I wake up feeling so weak from fatigue I can't walk. I have to be carried some mornings. The brain fog is so bad I can't think of how to form sentences. I'll feel like I have not slept in 3 weeks. Sometimes I also have vision blackouts and can't see walls or anything in front of me for 10 seconds. By afternoon the fatigue is unbearable and I fall into a 5-7 hour nap. Upon waking in the evening, it takes about 2 hours to completely "wake up" and I sit like a zombie. By nightfall, I have recovered and I feel normal again. I'll feel fine until I eat too much of the wrong food and then it starts all over. In the beginning I did see doctors about this but they were baffled. I was not hypoglycemic. They told me I must be imagining the symptoms.

I have now learned to live with these handicapping food sensitivities:

I can eat 1 banana, but not 2.

I can eat 1/2 sweet potato, but more is out of the question.

I can't touch broccoli --even a crumb-- because I'll be asleep for 10 hours the next day.

So I must ration all of my food and eat everything in tiny, measured quantities. This only began happening when my Celiac Disease was activated.

I think the sensitivity to banana has lessened. If I even had a bite of banana, I'd be drunk the next day... but now I can eat a whole banana. So I'm hoping this isn't a permanent condition.

Of course doctors are baffled and can't help me. So I'm looking for others...

HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS?!!?!?!

I have supposedly had celiac for 10 years and have been gluten free. I recently had more problems with food, and ended up in the ER with alcohol poisioning from it. I was barely able to eat anything without getting 'drunk'. I have been to several doctors, but decided I couldn't wait any longer and started research on my own. I have an overgrowth of bad bacteria in my intestine due to a weak immune system. I researched out of desperation and found that cod liver oil is the answer. I took a total of 6 capsules over a day, and I was able to eat my first cupcake in 10 years. If you are experiencing reactions similar to being drunk or next day detox symptoms after eating foods, you may have this instead of celiac.

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This Drunk issue happens to me - I have narrowed it down to FODMAPS (food categories).  Take a look at those foods..they  include gluten, avocados, etc.

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Just a theory after vet workshop...

 

For some reason the food is just sitting in your gut and fermenting - therefore causing an alcohol poisoning situation.  If the food is harder to digest, it sits in the gut longer.  If the food is high in carbs and simple sugar, it ferments quicker while in the gut.  So yes it is a condition of the wrong type of microbes/ bacteria in the gut.

 

The vet case presentation was from cow fatality after being put on cut corn pasture.  It was too much corn too quickly for the digestion microbes to adjust to the amount of carbs from the corn introduced into the system.  The corn was not being digested quickly enough and fermented in the gut.  (yes a cow has 4 stomach chambers - very specialized for digestion purposes- but cows are mammals too, but human guts are not so highly complex of design.  It is no wonder why we have issues digesting all the food types we eat.

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It sounds like it might be yeast as others have mentioned. Here is an article about it from BBC News: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150305-the-man-who-gets-drunk-on-chips

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I guess I didn't point out yeast directly, but that is part of the good bacteria / microbes that are necessary to break down food being out numbered by yeast to properly digest.

 

Very cool to find an animal study and human cases for comparison.  (As the human can explain and have others describe the symptoms; the poor animal unfortunately dies.

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