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#1 AVR1962

 
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:54 PM

Received a wonderful article from a Celiac friend. Was reading it to my husband who is asthmatic, was recently tested for diabetes which runs in his family, has weight issues and yes, the belly. His response to the article, "If you beleive everything you read on the Internet you'd be eating nothing but carrots." Can you believe? The denial for people is just amazing. I am living proof of what wheat can do to you, my own husband has seen with his very own eyes the improvement I have made and yet this reaction, just incredible!

http://wellnessmama....-with-dr-davis/
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Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:17 PM

Received a wonderful article from a Celiac friend. Was reading it to my husband who is asthmatic, was recently tested for diabetes which runs in his family, has weight issues and yes, the belly. His response to the article, "If you beleive everything you read on the Internet you'd be eating nothing but carrots." Can you believe? The denial for people is just amazing. I am living proof of what wheat can do to you, my own husband has seen with his very own eyes the improvement I have made and yet this reaction, just incredible!

http://wellnessmama....-with-dr-davis/



Yes I know it is incredible. Just remember the gliadin in the gluten has opiates in it. It is addictive. Most folks don't want to give up their comfort food nor do they want to deal with the social restrictions going out to eat etc. Think about it. This is why. It is hard to break someone's comfort zone unless already they are as uncomfortable with gluten as you no doubt were and as I certainly was... So the truth is is that for some of us who have had it bad its in a way easier for us to change than for someone that has the effects more generally and thus insidiously since they don't see the direct cause and effect. They'd rather take their medications. Way easier. Its hard when you love that someone and you know their health would otherwise improve but they don't want to. They have made their peace with their condition... The truth is you have to honor that decision. The other truth however is that they need to not expose you to getting CC'd at the same time. A tricky business.
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Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

#3 AVR1962

 
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:23 PM

You are so on target with your response. And I think that is something I have to remind myself of....when they facts are layed out and their is still a refusal or denial, all you can do is accept. Thanks for your reply!
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Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:38 PM

You are so on target with your response. And I think that is something I have to remind myself of....when they facts are layed out and their is still a refusal or denial, all you can do is accept. Thanks for your reply!



Its tough. I had to learn it the hard way. My whole family thinks I went way overboard letting them know the benefits of going off gluten. They think I am just neurotic. They just don't see the improvements. When I get sick from CC they think I am making it up. They are so in their own reality they can't see out. I hope you find some way to get around this problem with your husband. Sometimes the slow approach and seeing is believing without pushing is the best. And of course meanwhile don't expose yourself to getting CC'd...
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Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 12:07 AM

It can't be that hard to accept though.. ??? Watching your friend, loved one, mum, dad, neighbour slowly prep'ing to die younger than they should and/or live life ill isn't easy for anyone.
I wonder if we could give you some more ideas to help. Here is a couple:

* Can you speak with his doctor about this article and what you have experienced/know about GI/celiac etc? Can you tell his doctor that you are concerned that wheat could be contributing to his ill-health?

* Do you do the shopping/cooking? Any man with a plate full of yummy soft jacket potatos topped with a little butter/sour cream and fried onion/mushroom+other veg, with a nice piece of steak next to it probably won't go looking for a bread roll. Maybe you could aim to get him gluten-lite enough to see some positive response?
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:54 AM

My point really is more about the shocking amount of denial. My husband knows exactly what wheat does to meand he has seen the improvment in my health. He just doesn't feel it applies to him. I don't prepare anything that is not gluten-free so all our desserts, pastas, etc that I make are without gluten. No one in the house has a problem with that. Husband seriously would eat anything put before him. He'd be the perfect guy for one of those TV reality shows that eat gross food.

Goodness, if I went to the doc and started speakng for him and voices my concerns about his health, ha. He would be so angry. He would not voice it in words but it would come thru in his silence. My husband is the one in the house that is right! Don't mean to be griping. I just have to continue to realize he is making his choice which he is entitled to and I make mine.
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Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 07:49 AM

Dietary changes are resisted like the plague for most people. That's the reason two GI docs talked me out of testing for celiac 8 years ago. They both said how hard the gluten free diet is and said things like "You don't want that."

Well duh, of course I don't want it but if you have it, no amount of denying it or not testing for it will make it go away. Of course I was so relieved when they assured me I didn't have celiac. They were so positive I didn't have it. Nobody wants to give up foods they like, but some will trade their lives for it.

My dad has cancer in his lungs and his brain now. For years he would drink 2 liters of diet soda or more every single day. We have begged him to stop drinking that and his health has deteriorated for years. He became diabetic and nothing they did would control his diabetes. Studies have shown that artificial sweeteners do affect blood sugar but he wouldn't hear it. He has suffered and lost his health all because of his love for Diet Coke. Even now that he is so sick he will not change his eating habits. There is nothing we can say or do. The damage is done.
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Lots of doctors diagnosed me with lots of things including IBS, lactose intolerance, wheat intolerance, and quite a few of them threw up their hands in total confusion.

Had GI symptoms, allergy symptoms and unexplained illness my whole life.

Jan. 2010 Diagnosed celiac at the age of 40.
Ready to get well and get on with my life!

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 08:04 AM

AVR, I'm assuming your husband eats wheat and gluten when he's not home, correct? So even though your home is gluten free, he is still consuming gluten. I'm just mentioning this because when I went gluten free, my blood sugar improved (I'm pre-diabetic) and I was able to cut my asthma medicine by more than 50%. My joints have much less pain/stiffness. I've only been gluten-free for 6 weeks or so and I've dropped 5 pounds without even trying.

I do believe your husband is in denial and if wants to lose the wheat belly, he's going to need to give up that wheat and all of it, LOL.

I have read both Gluten Connection and Wheat Belly and my entire attitude has changed to the point where I don't ever crave the wheat based foods I loved so much!

You can deny yourself gluten and feel better, or deny that wheat is bad stuff and keep on feeling rotten.

Thank you everyone who contributes on this board! I have learned sooo much from all of you!
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 12:04 PM

You all are so right, but some people just never learn and are quite adamant about staying ignorant.
My sister Susan the research nurse has terrible D all the time, osteoporosis, depression and used to have migraines. Now she is in a wheelchair with two broken hips that won't heal due to the osteoporosis. She still sticks to her guns and won't practice these "alternative" medicines. She thinks in fact that I have OCD due to my insistence on staying so gluten free and sharing how it can really mess a person up.

Last year I asked her who is doing better health wise, me or her, since I too used to have osteoporosis, but have mostly turned it around due to being off gluten and taking more absorbable minerals and healing supplements like nattokinase and acidophilous etc.

Now she has had her hip operation that didn't heal. What was she expecting? even her teeth are still soft like mine used to be. And now her accident falling on Halloween ruined her other hip. She is now in a nursing home. I don't really know what to say to her. So I say nothing. What can one say to that?? There is nothing I haven't said. She has called me a fool and spit in my face. She just has to live with her own choices.

Too much drama, eh? I am done with it.

And yes, she is really fat.
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Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 12:58 PM

Dietary changes are resisted like the plague for most people. That's the reason two GI docs talked me out of testing for celiac 8 years ago. They both said how hard the gluten free diet is and said things like "You don't want that."

Well duh, of course I don't want it but if you have it, no amount of denying it or not testing for it will make it go away. Of course I was so relieved when they assured me I didn't have celiac. They were so positive I didn't have it. Nobody wants to give up foods they like, but some will trade their lives for it.

My dad has cancer in his lungs and his brain now. For years he would drink 2 liters of diet soda or more every single day. We have begged him to stop drinking that and his health has deteriorated for years. He became diabetic and nothing they did would control his diabetes. Studies have shown that artificial sweeteners do affect blood sugar but he wouldn't hear it. He has suffered and lost his health all because of his love for Diet Coke. Even now that he is so sick he will not change his eating habits. There is nothing we can say or do. The damage is done.

Sorry to hear about your dad. Change is hard, definately! Those of us that get sick enough from our symptoms and have become desperate are the ones forced into our changes.
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Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:03 PM

AVR, I'm assuming your husband eats wheat and gluten when he's not home, correct? So even though your home is gluten free, he is still consuming gluten. I'm just mentioning this because when I went gluten free, my blood sugar improved (I'm pre-diabetic) and I was able to cut my asthma medicine by more than 50%. My joints have much less pain/stiffness. I've only been gluten-free for 6 weeks or so and I've dropped 5 pounds without even trying.

I do believe your husband is in denial and if wants to lose the wheat belly, he's going to need to give up that wheat and all of it, LOL.

I have read both Gluten Connection and Wheat Belly and my entire attitude has changed to the point where I don't ever crave the wheat based foods I loved so much!

You can deny yourself gluten and feel better, or deny that wheat is bad stuff and keep on feeling rotten.

Thank you everyone who contributes on this board! I have learned sooo much from all of you!

Good for you!!! I will continue to try and implant info to my husband. I really beleive wheat is probably more of an issue than he wants to even entertian at this point. It's great to hear a success story with the asthma and diabetes. My dad has asthma and athritis so I passed the link onto him as well.
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Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:08 PM

You all are so right, but some people just never learn and are quite adamant about staying ignorant.
My sister Susan the research nurse has terrible D all the time, osteoporosis, depression and used to have migraines. Now she is in a wheelchair with two broken hips that won't heal due to the osteoporosis. She still sticks to her guns and won't practice these "alternative" medicines. She thinks in fact that I have OCD due to my insistence on staying so gluten free and sharing how it can really mess a person up.

Last year I asked her who is doing better health wise, me or her, since I too used to have osteoporosis, but have mostly turned it around due to being off gluten and taking more absorbable minerals and healing supplements like nattokinase and acidophilous etc.

Now she has had her hip operation that didn't heal. What was she expecting? even her teeth are still soft like mine used to be. And now her accident falling on Halloween ruined her other hip. She is now in a nursing home. I don't really know what to say to her. So I say nothing. What can one say to that?? There is nothing I haven't said. She has called me a fool and spit in my face. She just has to live with her own choices.

Too much drama, eh? I am done with it.

And yes, she is really fat.

Goodness, I guess we all have those "fun" family situations. I know if I say too much my family is going to think I lost my mind but like you, you are living proof of what life can be without gluten. You have been such help to me and so many here with all your knowledge and experience. I hope you won't let your family bring you down with their negative thoughts.
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Yesterday is not ours to recover but today is ours to win or lose!

Miscarriage, Kidney stones, Anemia, Pneumonia, Migraines, Restless leg, Bone fractures, Blurred/Double vision, Extreme fatigue, Bone & Joint Pain, Thyroid nodule, Celiac diagnosed 2011, Spine and leg bone loss, GERD, Vitamin deficiencies, Malabsorbtion, Neuropathy issues, Ataxia, Raynaud's Syndrome. Currently on diet with limited grain and sugar.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:28 PM

I've been experiencing chronic pain for almost 2 years. And in the beginning when my pain was still at a 5 on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the worst), I would ignore advice from my doctors. When the pain got to be at a 10 (or off the charts) I was willing to let go. It wasn't until I really had no choice that I saw what my doctors had been trying to tell me all along. Thankfully, you are not like me (you're smarter!). But maybe your husband is. The change I experienced in my body put me through a grieving process. Denial is the first stage of grief and in my opinion, the hardest to get through. I am so much more at peace now with my condition (ok some day still are bad) but I still think I could not have made the major life style changes had I not been forced to do so.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:00 PM

Before I was diagnosed with Celiacs I had no clue how much food affects all different parts of our bodies, not just our weight. I was a typical ignorant American. Now I know more about gluten and GMOs and the history of food; more than many doctors. So it seems so obvious to me. And you would think that information would be absorbed by our family. But no! They let it go in one ear and out the other. They don't care and can't believe that could be their problem.

My husband tested positive for celiac disease and still refuses to go gluten free. Huh? His brother and aunt have it. He has seen me and my daughter live and heal gluten free. He knows that other auto immune diseases and even cancer can result from untreated celiac disease. He totally believes and supports my gluten-free lifestyle. But his aches and pains, issues, absolutely can not be attributed to gluten - such a twerp! <_< Want to bash him in the head if I think about it hard enough. :P But I don't - I let him gripe about his problems and I suggest he keep an eye on it. That is it. He is a big boy and knows what he needs to do. Me nagging him won't change a thing in a positive direction.

This is another unfortunate side effect of Celiac Disease - idiot family members! :lol:
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Diagnosed with Celiac Disease April 2010. After endoscopy doc said "Aren't you glad?"
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DD #1 ('99) tested negative on bloodwork but positive on 2 genetic markers. Went gluten free in July 2010 and has been symptom-free ever since!
DD #2 ('98) tested negative and has no symptoms. Didn't fork out money for genetic testing. Will watch and test regularly.
Husband tested positive in July 2010 and has refused to go gluten free. Uh huh, that's gonna bite him in the a** one day! (Pun intended!)

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 04:40 PM

Goodness, I guess we all have those "fun" family situations. I know if I say too much my family is going to think I lost my mind but like you, you are living proof of what life can be without gluten. You have been such help to me and so many here with all your knowledge and experience. I hope you won't let your family bring you down with their negative thoughts.


Thanks AVR. This board has really helped me deal better with the fact I do have one of those negative families deep in that long river called DeNial. They think they are being so positive by ignoring their bodies as well as what is happening to their minds.

Its one reason I do my art and writing, to do something that is more positive and meaningful. Plus am learning more and more about medical and clinical hypnotherapy--which has helped heal me as well as making it so I can help others leanr to heal. Am finally about to get a business license to practice it here in San Jose.

Fortunately I have been blessed with a wonderful boyfriend who went completely off gluten in order to be with me. In the process he discovered that not only did his migraines go away but also his ADHD, not to mention stopping getting frequent colds and flu etc. and other annoying nasal and skin conditions.

Both my boyfriend and I have noticed its easier to be nicer to people now that we are completely off gluten. I can kind of forgive my family for being so messed up since they are still on gluten after all. It affects one's judgement and temperment.

The fact is I am not part of the Thought Police. I can't go in there and change the minds of those who don't want to know or hear. I have to respect their process even though it drives me nuts how close minded they are. At best all I can do is provide an example and just live my own life. I am glad to at least have helped some folks here on this forum, as well as some of my friends--including my best guy.

This article you showed us is great meanwhile, since it reiterates the premise that gluten is not really that good for most anyone, whether or not they have extreme gluten sensitivity or celiac.
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Diagnosed celiac sprue as infant: failure to thrive & pneumonia-back on grains age 4. Began herbs 1971 combating chronic kidney disease/general ill health 1973. Avoid wheat family and "allergens" by 1980. Late 80's doc. diagnosed candida: cave-man diet. Diagnosed degraded myelin sheath 2006; need co-enzyme B vitamins. Discovered celiac fall 2007; finally told diagnosis as infant. Recently found I am salicylic acid intolerant. Ironically can't tolerate most herbs now. Can now eat brown rice & other gluten-free grains (except corn) & even maple syrup & now homeopathic medicine works! Am still exploring the shape of this elephant but I've made progress!




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