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#1 collgwg

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:14 PM

i have had leaky gut since feb of this year and i have been struggling with many food allergies that i was never allergic to before at least i did not think so
so my dr gave me a RX for amitryptilline 10mg and im scared to death to take them knowing that if a piece of bread causes a whole long list of symptoms what in the heck with amitryptilline do

im trying to eat simple and as clean as possible right down to drinking bottled water and the doc wants me to pump chemicals into my system just because i had back surg and now there is arthritice in my spine and lower back
yes it hurts yes it causes pain no i cant work but i also cant get disibility either cause im not suvere enough to be on pain meds

my god i have no idea what to do and this leaky gut has gotten to the point where im only eating lf milk chex roasted chicken romaine lettuce green beans and not much else all red meat hurts any amt of spices hurt and doc gave me gavascon for the burning oh yea great i turned my guts into a vocano reaction where i was puking up foam

so this is why i came here for some advice as what on earth can i do about this i really dont want to take this drug but everyone even dr said do it cause i want to see what happens if you get sick dont take it again but i dont want to do this to my self that would be like a someone saying oh you are allergc to wheat i dont believe you do it so i can see what happens

im so frustrated

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:30 PM

i have had leaky gut since feb of this year and i have been struggling with many food allergies that i was never allergic to before at least i did not think so
so my dr gave me a RX for amitryptilline 10mg and im scared to death to take them knowing that if a piece of bread causes a whole long list of symptoms what in the heck with amitryptilline do

im trying to eat simple and as clean as possible right down to drinking bottled water and the doc wants me to pump chemicals into my system just because i had back surg and now there is arthritice in my spine and lower back
yes it hurts yes it causes pain no i cant work but i also cant get disibility either cause im not suvere enough to be on pain meds

my god i have no idea what to do and this leaky gut has gotten to the point where im only eating lf milk chex roasted chicken romaine lettuce green beans and not much else all red meat hurts any amt of spices hurt and doc gave me gavascon for the burning oh yea great i turned my guts into a vocano reaction where i was puking up foam

so this is why i came here for some advice as what on earth can i do about this i really dont want to take this drug but everyone even dr said do it cause i want to see what happens if you get sick dont take it again but i dont want to do this to my self that would be like a someone saying oh you are allergc to wheat i dont believe you do it so i can see what happens

im so frustrated

thanks for listening

Errr..Amitriptolene is an anti-depressant. It doesn't really have anything to do with treating your allergies or intollerances. Oftentimes people with chronic or unexplained illness suffer from depression..so that's maybe why it was prescribed? The 10mg is not a very strong dose.
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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:34 PM

Amitryptilline is also often prescribed for other symptoms besides depression--usually pain.

It was given it to me for chronic joint/neck and lumbar spine pain so severe I could not sleep or sit at all.

10 mgs. is the lowest dose, I think. Some docs have you gradually add more in 10 mgs. increments to see what works best for you.

This med will make you sleepy, hon. I, personally got no real pain relief from it at the time I tried it, but I was very ill from malabsorption then.

I will say this...if you do tolerate it and take it for awhile, do not stop it abruptly. Taper down.

As for your leaky gut, are you under medical care for that?

Are you taking probiotics or anything to treat it?
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 09:17 AM

sorry it took so long to reply back been busy

i have done more reserch on this drug and i will not take it
i think this is how i got in this state in the first place
im trying to get rid of toxins in my body not pump more into it

i just ate balsmic brown rice last night and i can barely move today even typing hurts and i needed to go shopping today and make christmas cards i cant even do that my every joint in my body hurts i feel puffy and swollen and if i tell the dr i ate that rice ill get in trouble for not following the diet properly
i have been on the elmition stage fo candina for months now you would think i could tolorate rice by now but i guess not

i am taking an anti fungal med its liquid 2x daily
my allergist is the one who put me on this yeast gluten lactose nightshade egg casin free diet sugar free as well

i am finding it ultra hard to find things to eat
heck even spnich causes a tightening in the chest with suvere cough needing puffers

i dont even have a safe food, bottled water is the only thing that does not hurt other than that i dont know im at such a loss my gp dosent even seem like she can help or send me to someone for help her answer for everything is here take a pill gurrrrrr so frustrateing


if eat anything like that rice i get in trouble or i went to mother in law's and she made pork roast stew with parsnips and turnip onion and garlic but nooo i guess that was wrong to put it in my journal cause i got in trouble from both drs saying im not following the diet properly its no wonder your not getting better they say well heck i never thought anything of it i did not relize thoes root vegs were high in sugar good grief


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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:06 PM

sorry it took so long to reply back been busy

i have done more reserch on this drug and i will not take it
i think this is how i got in this state in the first place
im trying to get rid of toxins in my body not pump more into it

i just ate balsmic brown rice last night and i can barely move today even typing hurts and i needed to go shopping today and make christmas cards i cant even do that my every joint in my body hurts i feel puffy and swollen and if i tell the dr i ate that rice ill get in trouble for not following the diet properly
i have been on the elmition stage fo candina for months now you would think i could tolorate rice by now but i guess not

i am taking an anti fungal med its liquid 2x daily
my allergist is the one who put me on this yeast gluten lactose nightshade egg casin free diet sugar free as well

i am finding it ultra hard to find things to eat
heck even spnich causes a tightening in the chest with suvere cough needing puffers

i dont even have a safe food, bottled water is the only thing that does not hurt other than that i dont know im at such a loss my gp dosent even seem like she can help or send me to someone for help her answer for everything is here take a pill gurrrrrr so frustrateing


if eat anything like that rice i get in trouble or i went to mother in law's and she made pork roast stew with parsnips and turnip onion and garlic but nooo i guess that was wrong to put it in my journal cause i got in trouble from both drs saying im not following the diet properly its no wonder your not getting better they say well heck i never thought anything of it i did not relize thoes root vegs were high in sugar good grief


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Have your allergists tested you (blood test for IgG/Iga allergies) for any of those allergies? Or did they just decide to restrict your diet on theory?

Why are you taking an anti-fungal? Were you diagnosed with Candida or some other fungal infection? (I took Nystatin for 3 months and successfully eliminated my Candida, which was diagnosed by stool test analysis.)

I was misdiagnosed for 30 years before I learned I had celiac disease (and several other IgG/IgA mediated food allergies). So I have mucho leaky gut problems (extreme reaction to sorbitol and all other 'tol' sweetners). Whenever I have an accidental contamination (consume one of my allergens), I take L-glutamine. That decreases the intensity of my (painful) gut reactions and heals my gut more quickly after accidental consumption.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 04:00 PM

the allergist did the skin test and i reacted to birch maple cat dust mite trees grass weeds dust hay ragweed milk soy wheat chocolate and all cross cont foods
he then put me on this free everythign diet and i was still not getting better then i droped nightshades and he said it was a good idea

i have not really been diagnosed for anything he just said here follow this diet and i went on the candidina diet and i have been on it for oh god months now but i am not able to get past the elimation stage

i ate basmiti rice brown last night and i am haveing D and im so tired i cant think straight my every joint in my body just akes it hurts to even type

my GP just did a routien celiac test but just said i dont have it
but i have sevral family members who do have celiac and i can not tolorate gluten at all

i am taking the anti fungal nystain just cause allergy doc put me on it 1 tsp 2x day i have probiotics but allergist said they prob wont work i have them here i jsut havee not taken them and my vitimans i have a hard time takeing them too they seem like they burn my gut


everything seems like it burns my guts i tryed to eat chicken today yuck but i ate it anyway and i had oatmeal lactose free milk and blue agave and that seems to burn and hurt my guts i go looking in the fridge and cubbords and then i look on the net for things to eat and just can not find anything that i can eat i waisted so much money trying to figure out a way to make bread rolls or flat bread or anything that wont either turn into glue or bother my guts

im sipping on peppermint tea but that burns too i have chamilie tea burns chi tea burns lemmom tea burns

got any suggestions to what i can drink thats nice and soothing and warm to either drink or eat ?
im jsut at my wits end here i hope yall can help
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:50 PM

Skin Tests can't diagnose food allergies, because we don't put food under our skin when we eat. Blood tests and some stool tests can diagnosed delayed reaction (IgG, IgA mediated allergies). Skin tests can eliminate some IgE mediated allergies, but not definitely diagnose any food allergies.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 06:01 PM

Are you eating certified gluten free oats? Regular commercial oats are often cross contaminated with wheat. Then there people that react to the oats themselves. I unfortunately am one who reacts to pure certified oats. My reactions are as bad as if I ate wheat, barley or rye.

I hope you can figure out something and feel better soon.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 06:10 PM

yea thats what i figured but i can not seem to get any testing done
i did go for ultra sound no results as of yet and if they are in i have not got a call yet
i really need this dr to do some sort of testing
in the mean time im starving everyone is conserned about such a weight loss in such a short period of time

and im getting on the mother in law's nerves
there were a bunch of people who were having some holdiday cheers and food and i kept saying no to this drink and that drink and someone asked why i just said because my guts wont hanlde it and the mil piped up and said ok im bored
then after a bit the conversation went to farming and then to eating organic and grow your own foods and she thought i started it and looked at me and said cant you just drop it good god i was not even talking about my condition
all my friends just dont understand why i am reacting to all these foods i have people saying its all in my head im doing this for attention
omg its hell i just would love to eat something with out it hurting burning and all of the other horrible symptoms

and if i cant even eat rice or potato or even a sweet potato or lettuce how in the heck can i take medication dosent make much sence i think taking medication made me the way i am today messed right up internally

but i dont know how to heal my self one diet says eat this one says eat that good greif im getting dizzy just trying to keep up
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