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[Jestgar]

Anyone have an experience with eating Mc Donalds Shamrock Shakes? I read somewhere that the mix for the shamrock ones did contain wheat.

best I could do: wiki shakes. but they don't say where they got the ingredients list from so there's no way to check it.

[lub2bmom]

Thanks Everyone!

I just want to note: a "feeling of attacked" is different then saying you "were attacked". You cannot dispute someone's feelings. That is the problem with email, blogs, forums where tone is implied through the eyes of the reader. It was not the fact that someone asked for where i read something. It was the fact that it was followed by something i took as implying i was stating something that was implied to be factual. I have no problem to kindly clarify that I did not have a source of where i had read that ... or even to explain that it was quite some time ago... prior to joining this site. That is where my feeling of being attacked stemmed from. And I replied with factual data that I found... weirdly, not relating to my question at all. The reply to that was then followed by with "perhaps you should read up.". I do find it sad that we have spent so much time disputing something about french fries when my question was solely about milkshakes. I do find skylarks reply on why the Mc D's website has the data it has and how it relates to the level of gluten and how it affects the average person with a gluten allergy. That was very valuable and great information to know. I, however, like was referenced am unfortunately super sensitive to gluten, so for me... french fries from Mc D's is a no-no.

I do appreciate all the links and data that people did find for me. That is what make this site unique with the ability to pool everyone's research and then make it available for others to read when doing research as well. I always find this site to be a source and wealth of knowledge and opinions of which I value.

Yes, you probably will always find someone feeling defensive to replies in this specific forum as your working with people finding information about products they once loved or stating something they believe is true. I am one that loves it when people do show the links where they found their data. It's never easy to hear negative things about items you once loved. Sort of the "it can't be true" syndrome.

[Lisa]

There is no need to escalate this discussion, but I will clarify a couple of points.

In your first post you mentioned McDonald's french fries,
I usually stay away from as even their fries depending on what other things they fried that day in the oil they use causes me to get sick and hivey!

I merely clarified the fact that McDonald's has a policy not to share fryers. McDonald's is the most discussed topic here. There is a great deal (no tremendous amount) of information available for those who are interested.

I asked that you "kindly" cite your source of information. I fail to see how anyone could perceive that as an "attack". And, I in no way implied that your information was incorrect, but rather, I did stress the need for accuracy. No personal attack there either.

I AM sorry you felted "attacked", my intention clearly, was not an attack.

[Skylark]

Lisa, your first post struck me oddly too. I think I figured out why. You know how when someone is irritated they sometimes use exaggerated politeness? "Would you be so kind as to leave me the hell alone???" My British friend commented on this, how odd he finds it that Americans will use the word "please" aggressively. That "would you kindly be more specific" came across as irritation to me.

Please don't take this as escalation. I don't mean it as such at all. I think it is actually a little funny that you were being super-polite and we read it all wrong.

[Jestgar]

I think it is actually a little funny that you were being super-polite and we read it all wrong.

Lisa really is super-polite.

[Skylark]

Lisa really is super-polite.

Not me. I'm a b*tch.

[Jestgar]

Not me. I'm a b*tch.

At least we can easily interpret you.

[IrishHeart]

That "would you kindly be more specific" came across as irritation to me.

Please don't take this as escalation. I don't mean it as such at all. I think it is actually a little funny that you were being super-polite and we read it all wrong.

Wow. Really? Gee, I use the word "kindly" all the time and never thought anyone would misinterpret it as anything but politeness.

(picture Irish scratching her head )

I do have to wonder how much of it is lost in translation in the written form--you know, we cannot hear inflection or see someone's smiling face? Because honestly, if we are getting ourselves in a huff over the word "kindly", what does outright snarky rudeness sound like? um, nope wait, I have seen that on some threads here and it ain't pretty.

I know Lisa and I find her to be very polite. ...

[kareng]

Back to the shakes.....

I guess I always thought they were just the vanilla ones with green food coloring. I always wished they would be mint flavored.

The McD's website has the ingredients for the "Shamrock syrup" so I guess it has its own flavor.

[Lisa]

Back to the shakes.....

I guess I always thought they were just the vanilla ones with green food coloring. I always wished they would be mint flavored.

I think they need to add some Creme de Menthe, just imagine their increased revenue and happy employees after lunch. Grasshoppers for all!

[IrishHeart]

I think they need to add some Creme de Menthe, just imagine their increased revenue and happy employees after lunch. Grasshoppers for all!

now yer talkin !!

[mushroom]

Here's our English grammar lesson of the day, what I found on a google of "kindly""

http://forum.churchillhouse.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=111&topic_id=45

"Use of "kindly request you" vs. "request you to kindly"?"

Hello Dr. Grammar,

At the end of a (business) letter, which of the two statements below would you consider grammatically correct?

"I request you to kindly grant approval for the project."

OR

"I kindly request you to grant approval for the project."

Are there any contexts where one would be considered better than the other? Or are they both accepted in general usage these days?

Thanks!

....


Well, both forms work, and I have seen them used in more general contexts. They are both polite ways of making a request.
However, there is a grammatical distinction which is worth considering in your choice of form;

"I kindly request" indicates that you are politely requesting - asking in a kind way.

"to kindly grant approval" indicates that the person would be kind if they granted approval


http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english/poetry_literature/743620-please_versus_kindly.html

English term or phrase: please versus kindly
Please and Kindly both are used for politeness. I want to know whether these are interchangeable. Does Kindly display more politeness than Please? I'd be thankful if you could advise me in respect of shades of usages of these words. Thank you.

Rani
English translation:"Kindly" is gentler
Explanation:
I think "kindly" can be gentler than "please" in certain cases. "Please" could be used rathar curtly in verbal speech, while it is hard to imagine "kindly" used that way:

"Would you PLEASE turn the volume down a bit?"
"Would you kindly turn the volume down a bit?"

Imagine the "please" option, used verbally with emphasis on the PLEASE and a rather annoyed tone of voice.

In contrast, I cannot imagine "kindly" used in that same tone of voice.

Would you PLEASE take your dirty boots off before you come in the house?!
Honey, would you kindly remember to take off your dirty boots before you come in, pretty, please? Thank you, sweetheart.

And this from Wiktionary: (a definition of kindly)

(US) Please; used to make a polite request.

Kindly refrain from walking on the grass.
Kindly move your car out of the front yard.

I think lulb2bmum might be reacting to this use of 'kindly', in which it indicates you have done (or intend to do) something you should not, which is the sense in which my mother would often use it, as in "Young lady, would you kindly leave the room and close the door behind you" In this latter case there was a definite sense of opprobrium, not kindness, which was not what Lisa was intending in her usage at all. Her usage was the former more generally accepted usage, I am sure. In my mother's usage, please would have been kinder. (especially if she omitted the "young lady" part )

So let's accept that kindly has its original kind meaning, as it is more accepted.

[kareng]

Oh please! Can we kindly stop this? It's unkindly giving my head an unpleasing headache.

I really want to know, does anyone have good luck with these shakes? I will be traveling with high school students and I ' m sure we will stop at Mc Donald's & I would love to get a shake. Even one full of artificial colors and corn syrup!

[Darn210]

If you're traveling with high school students, then you really do need the creme de menthe ones.

[IrishHeart]

Well, gee whiz, Shroomie-- I could have spared you all

that research work and provided a grammar lesson on the use of

"kindly" if you wanted one.



I wuz an Englush Professah ya know.

(IH feels sad...... and a bit under-utilized....)