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Hi guys. So 3 days before Christmas i was diagnosed with celiac. I never really had many symptoms that i even picked up on. I started losing weight though in may then lost 20 lbs by Christmas without working out. anyway...so i have 2 kids. my daughter is 2.5 and my son 15 months. After i became diagnosed i called my primary whom is also my kids pedi. She said not to worry and they didn't need to be tested. I thought this was a little odd. So i felt my daughter may have this but wanted to see what you guys thought. I was always little at 2years i was 24 lbs and she is 23.5 lbs at 2.5.... however she has been 23.5 pounds for over a year now. She has grown height wise but nothing else....she looks a tad bloated sometimes, bruises easily if she falls real quick or bumps into something, she could eat all day and doesn't seem to gain anything, oh and since she was 4 weeks old she was constipated...has prune juice raisins and pears all the time. Does any of this sound like it could be celiac? I always thought oh she is tiny like me, has a fast metabolism and after many nutritionist visits and trying shakes to put weight on (to which she ended up having reactions to) nothing seemed to happen.

We did an experiment for the past 2 weeks we gave her gluten free food and she put on 2 lbs. Then over 4 days she lost the weight again once back to a normal diet. Weird? Also another question if i wanted to have her blood tested and had recently given her gluten-free food for two weeks what would be the appropriate time to wait to have it done so it would show up positive if she had it. Everyone told me if you on it a few weeks it will come up negative. Sorry for the long rant just seeking advice and new to this.

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My daughter was having major GI symptoms from eating gluten. "D", vomitting, swollen belly led to her being diagnosed at 17 months old.

She needs to be tested. She has a first degree relative diagnosed and she is having GI symptoms. She needs to be eating gluten for the testing.

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thanks mommida...do you know how long they should be eating gluten for like will a week do it? they have docs appts next wed and im only giving her gluten from now till then anyway but didnt know if it will need to be a longer period of time before a blood test

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mommida Enthusiast

Going back 7 years ago, we were told at least 6 weeks on a gluten diet.

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Avalon451 Apprentice

But she was only gluten-free for 2 weeks, so it might be worth trying it, anyway. Know that blood tests in children are especially notorious for false negatives. Be sure they are giving her the full panel... ummm... I forget what all that is, but it's listed in the celiac.com article about testing.

And I agree with mommida. Any PCP who says your kids don't need to be tested is NOT up on their celiac knowledge. You're a first degree relative with confirmed celiac, your kids need to be tested.

Hope everything goes well and she feels better soon!

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Youngest son(age 7):

delayed umbilical separation(2.5 months old before it came off)horrible reflux, chronic rhinosinusitis and strep, food reactions to dairy/rice/oatmeal/treenuts(he would either get hives or a rash on his head), yeast overgrowth in bowel from to many antibiotics, thrush and yeast infections in groin area, reactive airway disease(probably caused by the reflux). All of these things he had from around 1 month old to about 16 months. I eliminated all the things I knew he reacted to out of my diet since I breastfed him till he was 16 months. I had inadvertently went gluten light(didn't know about gluten then just realized that in hindsite) and when he was 14 months old I started having issues because I went back on a regular diet. I eventually was diagnosed about 2.5 years later when he was almost 4. He had been seeing an allergist/immunologist since he was 14 months old and for the most part when I was diagnosed his issues had gone and he seemed healthy. I had him blood tested after my diagnosis and he was negative, so he went on as normal. Two years later (6 months with noticible symptoms of belly aches and reflux, horrible mood swings and OCD type behavior) he tested positive on his celiac blood work. He has been gluten free since. We regretted not getting the scope/biopsy so we tried a gluten challenge after he was gluten free for 4.5 months. His symptoms all came back and they were worse than before. We had to stop the challenge after three days. There was no way he could tolerate it. Looking back he probably had celiac as a baby too.

Oldest son(age 11):

Constipation issues since birth. He was son so many things for the constipation and none of it worked..(prunes, apple juice, mineral oil, lots of fresh fruits and veggies, fleets enemas, suppositories, mirilax, etc.) From age 2.5-4 chronic strep and tonsillitis. Had tonsils out and was good for about 6 months. Then he started getting recurrent sinus infections. He was diagnosed with allergies at age 6 and has done immunotherpy since. Some of his allergies have changed over the years. He too was blood tested after my diagnosis and was negative. Since his bowel issues seemed very much like mine when I was young I had him retested several times for celiac. He has always been negative. He is also short for his age and eventually his growth stalled and he began falling on the growth chart. Seeing the improvements that his brother had after going gluten free(the kid started growing and went from the 10th % in height and weight to the 50th%) in 6 months) I began to really worry about his growth. He also still had issues with constipation, daily stomach aches, gas/bloating and nausea. I had him scoped in Aug. 2010 just in case he was a seronegative celiac. His scope was negative also. I put him gluten free anyway to see how he would do. He has improved so much also. All his symptoms went away, he is regular now, has started to grow and he gained 6 lbs in 3 months. He did try gluten over the Christmas holiday and had some minor stomach aches. He decided that he wanted to stay gluten free because of all of the improvements he has seen. He doesn't have a diagnosis of celiac but gluten is not good for him either.

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my son is three years old, and was diagnosed with celiac about a month ago, he was born 9 pounds, a very healthy baby, i breastfed him for 9 months before i introduced solids, when he was 9 months he weighed 23 pounds, he was so chubby, but when i introduced solids he started to lose weight, he never gained not even one pound for a little over two years till he finally gained a few pounds, imagine he was the same weight when he was nine months old and 2 year and nine months....

he had a list of symptoms:

1- always bloated, i used to laugh at his stomach he looked like a pregnant woman

2- diarrhea all the time, he never had a good bowelmovement in his whole life

3- very week hair

4- dark patches under his eyes

5- extremely skinny

6- sometimes he would eat like there is no tomorrow other day he would hardly eat, he lookes like those kids in poor countries that are starving, it was so sad to look at him

7- unexplained fevers all the time, the last time he was put in the hospital for eight days with an unexplained fever, they did a bunch of tests on him but they never found out what was wrong

8- always vomitting, sometimes it would be a couple months with out him throwing up, and other times he would throw up every day almost the same time every day....

u must be thinking that he had all these syptoms and the doctors never knew what was wrong with him??? i am the type of mother that cares about he children so much, i took my son to a lot of doctors, and where i live if i want to take my son to a doctor it costs a lot but i didnt care all i wanted was for him to get better, but every doctor would tell me a different thing, finally i took him to a doctor and told him that i think that he has celiac so he asked for tests and i told him the symptoms, but before i told him anything he looked at my son and he siad that it looks like celiac, i did the test and it was negative, but the doctor said that he was almost positive that he was celiac, i didnt take him off gluten i am waiting to do the endoscopy before i take him back off gluten....

do any of your celiac children have wek hair??? i heard that this may be a symptom as well..

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my son is three years old, and was diagnosed with celiac about a month ago, he was born 9 pounds, a very healthy baby, i breastfed him for 9 months before i introduced solids, when he was 9 months he weighed 23 pounds, he was so chubby, but when i introduced solids he started to lose weight, he never gained not even one pound for a little over two years till he finally gained a few pounds, imagine he was the same weight when he was nine months old and 2 year and nine months....

he had a list of symptoms:

1- always bloated, i used to laugh at his stomach he looked like a pregnant woman

2- diarrhea all the time, he never had a good bowelmovement in his whole life

3- very week hair

4- dark patches under his eyes

5- extremely skinny

6- sometimes he would eat like there is no tomorrow other day he would hardly eat, he lookes like those kids in poor countries that are starving, it was so sad to look at him

7- unexplained fevers all the time, the last time he was put in the hospital for eight days with an unexplained fever, they did a bunch of tests on him but they never found out what was wrong

8- always vomitting, sometimes it would be a couple months with out him throwing up, and other times he would throw up every day almost the same time every day....

u must be thinking that he had all these syptoms and the doctors never knew what was wrong with him??? i am the type of mother that cares about he children so much, i took my son to a lot of doctors, and where i live if i want to take my son to a doctor it costs a lot but i didnt care all i wanted was for him to get better, but every doctor would tell me a different thing, finally i took him to a doctor and told him that i think that he has celiac so he asked for tests and i told him the symptoms, but before i told him anything he looked at my son and he siad that it looks like celiac, i did the test and it was negative, but the doctor said that he was almost positive that he was celiac, i didnt take him off gluten i am waiting to do the endoscopy before i take him back off gluten....

do any of your celiac children have wek hair??? i heard that this may be a symptom as well..

Wow. Im not sure what determines weak hair..i know their hair is very thin. That is how mine used to be. My hair has been falling out for a few years now which is awful. My son hasn't lost anything and my daughter a few strands here and there. She is bloated though and has been constipated since 4 weeks old. I breastfed till I had complications at 3 months then had to go to formula. She was still constipated, we gave her prunes, prune juice basically everything you tried. She is less than 5% and she is 2.5 years old in growth charts. She hasn't gained a pound is almost a year. aside of those 2 weeks i gave her gluten free stuff. We have a doctor appointment with her pedi on valentines day so im going to demand a test. She also bruises easily when she slips and falls.

How come kids get so many negative results back on the blood test??

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samie Contributor

My oldest daughter had constipation starting at one till diagnosed at 4 1/2. She also had a speech delay that has gotten better since being gluten-free six months and vitamin d defeincy.

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Red flag on the comment "your kids do not need to be tested." Your are a 1st degree relative, your children most likely have the gene, she is showing possible symptoms!

The pediatrician is not up to speed on Celiac Disease or Non-Celiac Gluten Intolerant\Sensitive issues.

Ensure you get a full panel gold standard test done and read by a doctor who knows what to look for. If the test show your child has the gene, antibodies and the follow-on endoscopy show the damaged villi the disease has already been triggered! Start the diet before further damage is done. If your child does have the antibodies but not the gene and you find a Gluten free diet lowers the antibodies and the disconfort diminishes and grow is back on tract Non-Celiac Gluten Intolerance\Sensitivity is very likely the issue.

It is better to discover the damage early for either of the above Disease or Intolerance before more serious problems develope for example Leaky Gut, nutritional issues, and other Autoimmune Diseases.

I've got 5 kids who were diagnosed Celiacs during the same month but at different ages groups from preschool to high school. I wish we caught the older ones when they were in preschool. Life and medical bills would have been much less of a problem and the lifestyle change would have been easier on the older ones and us.

If your child has celiac disease or is Gluten intolerant, start preparing yourself for educating schools, caregivers, services providers, Doctors, family members, etc.. about this issues.

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I have a 5 year old who everytime I ran my fingers through her hair she would lose 2 to 5 hairs. This may not seem like much untill you run your fingers through over and over and it continues to fall out.I have alopecia areata which led me to my celiac dx so I know the hair thing is a sensitive subject for me.

I have taken all of my kids off gluten - it just seemed easier. Since then, my five year old doesn't lose her hair and she is staying dry during the day and night and she seems to have less D (I think she has a secondary issue with dairy) my 12 year old has grown 2 inches in 6 months When my kids get contaminated my 9 year old gets the worst gas you have ever smelled, is very emotional, and they will get really dark circles under their eyes. They look so sickly.

When given the option, none of my kids will eat pizza or cake at b-day parties because they don't want belly aches.

Looking back my 9 year old has been constipated since birth. When she was a newborn, She would only poo once a wee and then it was in such massive amounts that there was no way to contain it. When I asked the DR about it she just said, sometimes babies use up all of mommy's milk and have no extra. Looking back I wish I had pressed the issue a bit.

my son is three years old, and was diagnosed with celiac about a month ago, he was born 9 pounds, a very healthy baby, i breastfed him for 9 months before i introduced solids, when he was 9 months he weighed 23 pounds, he was so chubby, but when i introduced solids he started to lose weight, he never gained not even one pound for a little over two years till he finally gained a few pounds, imagine he was the same weight when he was nine months old and 2 year and nine months....

he had a list of symptoms:

1- always bloated, i used to laugh at his stomach he looked like a pregnant woman

2- diarrhea all the time, he never had a good bowelmovement in his whole life

3- very week hair

4- dark patches under his eyes

5- extremely skinny

6- sometimes he would eat like there is no tomorrow other day he would hardly eat, he lookes like those kids in poor countries that are starving, it was so sad to look at him

7- unexplained fevers all the time, the last time he was put in the hospital for eight days with an unexplained fever, they did a bunch of tests on him but they never found out what was wrong

8- always vomitting, sometimes it would be a couple months with out him throwing up, and other times he would throw up every day almost the same time every day....

u must be thinking that he had all these syptoms and the doctors never knew what was wrong with him??? i am the type of mother that cares about he children so much, i took my son to a lot of doctors, and where i live if i want to take my son to a doctor it costs a lot but i didnt care all i wanted was for him to get better, but every doctor would tell me a different thing, finally i took him to a doctor and told him that i think that he has celiac so he asked for tests and i told him the symptoms, but before i told him anything he looked at my son and he siad that it looks like celiac, i did the test and it was negative, but the doctor said that he was almost positive that he was celiac, i didnt take him off gluten i am waiting to do the endoscopy before i take him back off gluten....

do any of your celiac children have wek hair??? i heard that this may be a symptom as well..

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Nannu Rookie

Hi,

My 6 yr old was diagnosed a celiac with positive ttg levels and positive biopsy. There were no major symptoms other than occasional D, but our main issues with regards to her health were iron deficiency aneamia, low Vit D, poor growth in terms of height and weight. Since birth, she used to throw up a lot and i mean really a lot, but doctors dismissed saying its normal.

Then, she had severe D kind of symptoms 2yr onwards which was diagnosed as lactose intolerance. Then, i kept her off casein for 2 yrs and then reintroduced dairy and she was ok with it. All the above symptoms were resolved on gluten-free diet and she is much better and healthier now.

Thanks

Nannu

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TJSpin Rookie

6 year old just tested positive. No obvious intestinal issues what so ever.



  • Geographic tongue
  • tooth enamel defects
  • short stature
  • picky eater (like most 6 year olds)
  • miscarried sibling with Turner's Syndrome
  • Family with autoimmu

ne/thyroid issues

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GretaJane Newbie

My son, 4 1/2 now, had chronic watery and frothy 'D' since he was a newborn, until I stopped eating gluten (when he was about a month old). His doctor had me do an elimination diet, because he was exclusively breastfed. First I stopped dairy for a week, no change, then stopped soy for a week, no change, and then stopped gluten and the diarrhea and vomiting stopped. He also projectile vomited a lot. It took me many mistakes to get the gluten free thing right. I did not know about Celiac disease and neither did his doctor. I didn't know how sensitive he was to the tiniest amounts. He got "D' and vomiting whenever I was careless, or his dad gave him french fries contaminated from frying in the same vat of oil as gluten foods. It was not until my mother-in-law came to visit when he was a couple of years old and I mentioned that he can't tolerate gluten that she said, "Oh yeah? I can't either, Celiac Disease runs in our family." Her brother and her were terribly ill for many many years before being diagnosed. When we went to visit her brother, my husband's uncle, and saw how emaciated and sickly he was, did I actually get super serious about cross-contamination with my own son. I had my son genetically tested, which showed he was at the highest risk, all the markers for Celiac. Of course, the blood tests were negative, as he's never really eaten gluten in his whole life. He did have Vit. D deficiency (even with supplements) and we've always struggled to keep his iron level up to the minimum level.

My nephew, 21 mo, has had a distended abdomen since he was a few months old, constipation, eczema, delayed-speech, short-stature, never ending runny nose since forever, and his mother refuses to consider he might have Celiac Disease (His pediatrician has even tried to talk to her about getting him tested!). I take care of him most of the time, so he is gluten-free here, so that is better.

Blood tests are not always reliable. And biopsies are not recommended by most pedi GIs, as they are invasive and often not enough damage has been done at this young age to show up anyway. Good luck. You can have the genetic test done on your children to see if they did get the genetic markers for it. If not, you can pretty much rule it out Celiac. If they do have the markers, they are at risk for Celiac. FOr the blood tests to be accurate, they must be eating gluten, some say the equivalent of 1-4 slices of bread per day for 6 weeks. Others say one month, and others say 3 months to be sure. There is no standard gluten challenge. If you can't bear to put your children through that, if they responded so well to being gluten-free. You can go gluten-free and wait until a test is available that does not require eating gluten.

Good luck!

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FOr the blood tests to be accurate, they must be eating gluten, some say the equivalent of 1-4 slices of bread per day for 6 weeks. Others say one month, and others say 3 months to be sure. There is no standard gluten challenge. If you can't bear to put your children through that, if they responded so well to being gluten-free. You can go gluten-free and wait until a test is available that does not require eating gluten.

Good luck!

Open Original Shared Link (or Cyrex Labs, not sure who states it) state that for their blood test, "One must consume gluten containing food at least once two weeks prior to taking this test." This is so different from everything I have read. Is this for people eating gluten anyway?

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Open Original Shared Link (or Cyrex Labs, not sure who states it) state that for their blood test, "One must consume gluten containing food at least once two weeks prior to taking this test." This is so different from everything I have read. Is this for people eating gluten anyway?

I'm not sure if that lab is legit. When I looked at them they wanted to sell pills so you could eat gluten.

The Univ of Chicago Celiac Center does a free blood screening in Oct . they sent me a postcard about it that said to eat a full gluten diet for 3 months.

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lexluther Newbie

My son only grew 3/4 of and inch in one yr. He occasionally stayed home for headaches or flu-like achy joints and stomach ache. He started to get really bulky stools that would cause a fissure and blood streaked stool. Pale complexion and "allergy" shiners were common. All symptoms have gone except the allergy shiners in the Spring only. He would sometimes vomit after eating a big meal and we thought he was just stuffing himself too much! He is 12yrs old and still eats just as much. Never had weight loss. His nickname is puddin. His Dr. was smart enough to look into Celiac as a possibility and after his blood work came back positive, she confirmed with an endoscopy and biopsies. I dont know if his symptoms are typical?

Hope this helps others.

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My son, who is now 18, but was diagnosed when he was 12, had a lot of interesting symptoms that we didn't even know were related to celiac until after he went gluten free. First of all, and also quite common, he was always a little guy and on the low end of the growth charts, then dropped off sharply at about 4 yrs old. He always had a 'cute little pot-belly.' He now has permanent damage to the enamel on his teeth and will always have to be diligent with his tooth care, as well as use a special toothpaste--1 tube each year. His teeth are permanently discolored as well. He had terrible pitting and distortion of his fingernails, which went away completely within months of going gluten free. He was a chronic, night-time tooth grinder, which stopped within 2 weeks of going gluten free. He would get a most uncomfortable peri-anal itch. From a digestive point of view, he would eat TONS of food--not at all picky, yet was always so small. He would get a bad tummy ache maybe 4-6 times a year that would last quite a few hours and nothing would help. Now, except for his teeth, all has completely improved. When he was 10, his predicted height went down to 5'6" (down from 5'9") when he was 5 years old. He is now (thanks to being diagnosed before puberty) an average 5'10" young man.

My daughter who is now 16, but also diagnosed when she was 12, was only tested because of her first-degree relative status. She is pretty much a silent celiac and has no overt symptoms--although she says she does get a stomach ache if she accidentally ingests gluten.

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Daughter now 28, dx'd Celiac at 25 when I was finally dx'd. She was dx'd with Lupus at 13 - over the years she was additionally diagnosed with RA, Fibro, Sjogrens, had her gallbladder removed was on heavy medication for Lupus and a lot of other medical issues. Removing gluten at 25 was a turning point that improved some of her health concerns but not all. She is currently on elimination diet to root out other intolerance.

Son now 18, self dx'd celiac - genetic test on mom plus greatly improved health from removing gluten -- the majority of his long time health issues (constant fatigue, lots of flu bugs with no fever, slow growth, GERD) improved drastically. His reflux/gerd improved but is still serious so he is also trying to determine additional food intolerances.

Son now 16, never removed gluten completely, but as our home migrated to 100% gluten-free his health concerns all improved. He often had upset stomach and vomited a lot as a child, had sore achy joints and very clumsy/uncoordinated most of his life -- additionally since the age of 8 was always much heavier/chubbier than you would expect given the food he ate/exercise he did (I had this symptom my entire life). He is now slimming down, more coordinated and generally feeling much better -- he only gets a bit tired on the rare occasion that he eats something from outside our kitchen -- but is well aware that he could very well have serious health concerns later in life if eating gluten.

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Minette Contributor

My daughter was just diagnosed at age 6. I just found out this morning and we haven't made any diet changes yet, but for what it's worth:

- no severe GI symptoms (almost no vomiting/diarrhea), but has a tendency to constipation and complains frequently of tummyaches

- extremely picky eater (eats essentially ONLY wheat products and fruit)

- small for her age and has only gained a few lbs a year for the past couple of years

- generally happy child, but tends to be whiny/grumpy and not handle frustration well (not uncommon in a 6yo)

- near-normal levels of energy, but low stamina and not very strong muscles

- still not dry at night (I had no idea that was potentially related)

This thread is really giving me hope because while I know that eliminating gluten is going to be HARD (especially for this picky eater who eats almost nothing else), she will feel soooo much better.

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My son never lost any weight with it, he did have gastro troubles though and malabsorption, came back negative on the tests so the Drs were like "its not celiac". Anyhow - fast forward almost 2 years and only when they figured out he hadn't lost any weight but had gained none in 2 years did they decide to do an endo. Your kids have to be checked - even if they have no symptoms - you are Celiac and your kids are first degree relatives and heaps of celiacs have no obvious symptoms. Doh I hate how the medical professionals know nothing about it! ggrrrr.

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This thread is really giving me hope because while I know that eliminating gluten is going to be HARD (especially for this picky eater who eats almost nothing else), she will feel soooo much better.

My eldest was far far far more picky when he was eating gluten than now that he is gluten free. I think he just felt so bad all the time (and couldn't vocalise) he still isn't the greatest eater - but 10 times better now that he is gluten free. So your daughter may start eating better once she isn't having gluten anymore. Good luck!

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      Hi,   Not saying Thiamine (B1) couldn't be an issue as well, but Mg was definitely the cause of my problems. It's the only thing that worked. I supplemented with B vitamins, but that didn't change anything, in fact they made me sick. Mg stopped all my muscle pain (HCTZ) within a few months and fixed all the intestinal problems HCTZ caused as well. Mom has an allergy to some sulfa drugs (IgG Celiac too), but I don't think I've ever taken them. Mg boosted my energy as well. It solved a lot of problems. I take 1000mg MgO a day with no problems. I boost absorption with Vitamin D. Some people can't take MgO,  like mom, she takes Mg Glycinate. It's one of those things that someone has try and find the right form for themselves. Everyone's different. Mg deficiency can cause anxiety and is a treatment for it. A pharmacist gave me a list of drugs years ago that cause Mg deficiency: PPIs, H2 bockers, HCTZ, some beta blockers (metoprolol which I've taken -- horrible side effects), some anti-anxiety meds too were on it. I posted because I saw he was an IgG celiac. He's the first one I've seen in 20 years, other than my family. We're rare. All the celiacs I've met are IgA. Finding healthcare is a nightmare. Just trying to help. B  
    • Scott Adams
      It sounds like you've been through a lot with your son's health journey, and it's understandable that you're seeking answers and solutions. Given the complexity of his symptoms and medical history, it might be beneficial to explore a few avenues: Encourage your son to keep a detailed journal of his symptoms, including when they occur, their severity, any triggers or patterns, and how they impact his daily life. This information can be valuable during medical consultations and may help identify correlations or trends. Consider seeking opinions from specialized medical centers or academic hospitals that have multidisciplinary teams specializing in gastrointestinal disorders, especially those related to Celiac disease and Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EOE). These centers often have experts who deal with complex cases and can offer a comprehensive evaluation. Since you've already explored alternative medicine with a nutrition response doctor and a gut detox diet, you may want to consider consulting a functional medicine practitioner. They take a holistic approach to health, looking at underlying causes and imbalances that may contribute to symptoms. Given his low vitamin D levels and other nutritional markers, a thorough nutritional assessment by a registered dietitian or nutritionist specializing in gastrointestinal health could provide insights into any deficiencies or dietary adjustments that might help alleviate symptoms. In addition to routine tests, consider asking about more specialized tests that may not be part of standard screenings. These could include comprehensive stool analyses, food intolerance testing, allergy panels, or advanced imaging studies to assess gut health.
    • Nacina
      Hello, I am a 45 year old mom, who was diagnosed at 29 with Celiac. My now 14 year old son was diagnosed just before his 4th birthday. Needless to say, we are old pros with the diet. He was experiencing some issues, overall health took a major plummet a year ago, and through a bit of work, was diagnosed with EOE. Tried diet alone, but his follow up endoscopy didn't show the improvements his DR. wanted to see, so I tried the medication. (Steroid). He became extremely backed up, and they had him taking Miralax daily. His health plummeted. He is a straight A honor's 8th grader who plays club soccer very competitively. His health continued to decline and at 13 had a colonoscopy and another upper gi. (He was still compacted even with the prep). I finally pulled him off all meds and mira lax, after reading much negative literature online, and put him on a gut detox diet and took him to a nutrition response dr. Finally things have improved. However...over a year later and he is having relapse stomach pain, debilitating stomach pain. Missing a day of school a week, to three this week. This is where we downward spiral with him. He says it doesn't feel the same as when he has gotten backed up before. He is eating prunes, taking his supplements, drinking water...all of the things. Yet, he is feeling horrible. Pain is abdomen, headache, lethargy, diarrhea . He is on a strict gluten dairy, egg free diet. He has adapted well in regards to diet. But I feel like we are missing something here. He is too active, too outgoing to be feeling sick all of the time. His Bilirubin is constantly high. His white blood count always runs slightly low. His vitamin D was very low last time he ran tests, (last month) when he was sick for a week. His celiac markers show negative, so it isn't that. His last endoscopy showed no Eosinaphils in his esophagus.  I have taken him to multiple Ped. Gastro specialists. They run tests, and we get zero answers. I meticulously go through labs, hoping to make some sense and maybe catch something. Any thoughts or ideas would greatly be appreciated. 
    • trents
      But if you have been off of wheat for a period of weeks/months leading up to the testing it will likely turn out to be negative for celiac disease, even if you actually have celiac disease. Given your symptoms when consuming gluten, we certainly understand your reluctance to undergo  the "gluten challenge" before testing but you need to understand that the testing may be a waste of time if you don't. What are you going to do if it is negative for celiac disease? Are you going to go back to merrily eating wheat/barley/rye products while living in pain and destroying your health? You will be in a conundrum. Do I or do I not? And you will likely have a difficult time being consistent with your diet. Celiac disease causes inflammation to the small bowel villous lining when gluten containing grains are consumed. This inflammation produces certain antibodies that can be detected in the blood after they reach a certain level, which takes weeks or months after the onset of the disease. If gluten is stopped or drastically reduced, the inflammation begins to decrease and so do the antibodies. Before long, their low levels are not detectable by testing and the antibody blood tests done for diagnosing celiac disease will be negative. Over time, this inflammation wears down the billions of microscopic, finger-like projections that make up the lining and form the nutrient absorbing layer of the small bowel where all the nutrition in our food is absorbed. As the villi bet worn down, vitamin and mineral deficiencies typically develop because absorption is compromised. An endoscopy with biopsy of the small bowel lining to microscopically examine this damage is usually the second stage of celiac disease diagnosis. However, when people cut out gluten or cut back on it significantly ahead of time before the biopsy is done, the villous lining has already experienced some healing and the microscopic examination may be negative or inconclusive. I'm not trying to tell you what to do I just want you to understand what the consequences of going gluten free ahead of testing are as far as test results go so that you will either not waste your time in having the tests done or will be prepared for negative test results and the impact that will have on your dietary decisions. And, who are these "consultants" you keep talking about and what are their qualifications? You are in the unenviable position that many who joint this forum have found themselves in. Namely, having begun a gluten free diet before getting a proper diagnosis but unwilling to enter into the gluten challenge for valid testing because of the severity of the symptoms it would cause them.
    • Fluka66
      Thank you very much for your reply. I hadn't heard of celiac disease but began to notice a pattern of pain. I've been on the floor more than once with agonising pain but this was always put down to another abdominal problem consequently I've been on a roundabout of backwards and forwards with another consultant for many years. I originally questioned this diagnosis but was assured it was the reason for my pain. Many years later the consultant gave up and I had a new GP. I started to cut out certain food types ,reading packets then really started to cut out wheat and went lactose free. After a month I reintroduced these in one meal and ended screaming in agony the tearing and bloating pain. With this info and a swollen lymph node in my neck I went back to the GP.  I have a referral now . I have also found out that acidic food is causing the terrible pain . My thoughts are this is irritating any ulcers. I'm hoping that after a decade the outlook isn't all bad. My blood test came back with a high marker but I didn't catch what it was. My GP and I have agreed that I won't go back on wheat just for the test due to the pain , my swollen lymph node and blood test results.  Trying to remain calm for the referral and perhaps needed to be more forceful all those years ago but I'm not assertive and consultants can be overwhelming. Many thanks for your reply . Wishing you all the best.
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