http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22298027
Very interesting.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:05 PM
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21 years with undiagnosed Celiac Disease.
Father, brother, and daughter: celiac positive
Son: celiac negative, but symptoms resolved on gluten free diet
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:34 AM
"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir
"It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for the long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security." Anne Morrow Lindbergh
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love."
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Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; finally DXed on 11/01/10. I figured it out myself. Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:19 AM
Ah, thanks, missed that one!
Shauna
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21 years with undiagnosed Celiac Disease.
Father, brother, and daughter: celiac positive
Son: celiac negative, but symptoms resolved on gluten free diet
Gluten free since August 10, 2009.
21 years with undiagnosed Celiac Disease.
Father, brother, and daughter: celiac positive
Son: celiac negative, but symptoms resolved on gluten free diet
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:48 AM
Ah, thanks, missed that one!
You bet!
I only happen to know about it because she and I had talked about that article ---and I knew she was going to write that informative post. 
It is very interesting stuff!
"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir
"It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for the long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security." Anne Morrow Lindbergh
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love."
Lao Tzu
"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy
Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; finally DXed on 11/01/10. I figured it out myself. Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:20 PM
Wow.. this rings close to my experience with maize. My GI system and DH went crazy for a few weeks after I'd had a lot of corn & popcorn over a couple of days.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:51 PM
I am totally convinced that it is the GMO corn that is the baaadd stuff. Never had any problem with corn until I got to the U.S.A. However, now I only tolerate small amounts of corn starch in baked goods.
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"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." - Albert Einstein
"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"
"Whatever the question, the answer is always chocolate." Nigella Lawson
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Caffeine free 1973
Lactose free 1990
(Mis)diagnosed IBS, fibromyalgia '80's and '90's
Diagnosed psoriatic arthritis 2004
Self-diagnosed gluten intolerant, gluten-free Nov. 2007
Soy free March 2008
Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
(Totally) corn free Nov. 2009
Legume free March 2010
Now tolerant of lactose
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:35 AM
I'm not surprised that science is finding out the relationship between corn and gluten intolerance/celiac is much more troublesome than what they thought. Just from personal experience (obviously not statistically relevant lol) I used to be able to eat corn, now it's like poison to me 
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:07 PM
I thought it was the corn doing it. I stayed away from whole kernel corn, but would use corn starch (that was dumb!) for thickening. I agree it is the dang GMO stuff that is being put out as safe to eat when it isn't.
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DX Graves 1987 - treated radioactive iodine - now hypothyroid
DX Myofacial Pain Syndrome 1989
DX Fibromyalgia - degenerative disc disease 1999
DX sero-neg rheumatoid arthritis, tenosynovitis, bursitis 2000
DX degenerative disc disease
IGA >200 TtG 251 Positive Celiac on biopsy 2001
DX Osteopenia 2002 Spinal stenosis 2003
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DX Graves 1987 - treated radioactive iodine - now hypothyroid
DX Myofacial Pain Syndrome 1989
DX Fibromyalgia - degenerative disc disease 1999
DX sero-neg rheumatoid arthritis, tenosynovitis, bursitis 2000
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IGA >200 TtG 251 Positive Celiac on biopsy 2001
DX Osteopenia 2002 Spinal stenosis 2003
Shingles (zoster) 1999 and 2010 - Low Positive ANA 2010
DX Reactive hypoglycemia - chemical sensitivities
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:11 PM
I saw my rheumatologist. The other day and he mentioned that they are finding gluten in corn. Thanks for articles. I need to get to the bottom of this. Be well
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*Mental Health Issues, lifetime.
*Hypothyroidism 1993.
*Malabsorbtion 2001.
*Gluten free in Feb. 2012. Digestion issues resolved.
*Metastatic Malignant Melanoma July 2012
"We cautiously travel through life to arrive safely at our death" - J. R. C. , my Son.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:37 PM
I watched this video by dr. Osbourne and i swear he says no corn or rice or anything because it all has gluten in it. Ill have to rematch to confirm.
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Gluten-free 5/14/12. Elevated TTG IGA 4/12
Positive biopsy (flat folds and elevated Intraepithelial lymphocytes) 5/9/12
Results delivered 5/14/12
Migraines, swelling, bloating, asthma, tingling in legs, anxiety, fatigue, etc...
Low Vitamin D 17. Two years of 1000 IUs of D3 a day, now up to 30.6 (30 normal)
Hysterectomy 1/2010
WPW Syndrome - Diagnosed at 17. Ablation 9/2006
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:51 PM
I watched this video by dr. Osbourne and i swear he says no corn or rice or anything because it all has gluten in it. Ill have to rematch to confirm.
WHOA!!
Please don't assume you can't eat any (gluten-free) grains. Yes, some people have a problem with corn, some with other grains - rice, sorghum....
But don't assume YOU do.
And some of us are better off grain free...just don't assume that's YOU.
And not all grain proteins are the type of gluten that Celiacs react to. Please be careful about what you see, read, and believe. Do your research.
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I watched about half of this mess of a video. All I can advise is to disregard it. Please.
If you want to learn about Celiac Disease I suggest the University if Chicago Celiac Center website.
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Genetic tests reveal half DQ2, half DQ8 - I'm a weird bird!
Probable Endometriosis, in remission from childbirth since 2002.
Hashimoto's DX 2005.
Gluten-Free since 6/2011.
DH (and therefore Celiac) dx from ND.
Responsive to iodine withdrawal for DH (see quote, above).
Genetic tests reveal half DQ2, half DQ8 - I'm a weird bird!
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 04:32 PM
It wasn't until I went glutenfree that I noticed I had an issue with corn too. Of course, it's in pretty much all of the prepackaged glutenfree goods! Guess it kinda forces us to eat healthy, whole foods.
Makes me wonder, though, how many other foods cross-react with gluten (& cause damage) that we don't know about yet, because there haven't been enough studies? I react to dairy, coffee, corn, potato, rice.. the more I read the more it seems it is common among celiacs, to be intolerant to more than just gluten. Food shouldn't be this difficult
Makes me wonder, though, how many other foods cross-react with gluten (& cause damage) that we don't know about yet, because there haven't been enough studies? I react to dairy, coffee, corn, potato, rice.. the more I read the more it seems it is common among celiacs, to be intolerant to more than just gluten. Food shouldn't be this difficult
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:19 AM
I saw my rheumatologist. The other day and he mentioned that they are finding gluten in corn. Thanks for articles. I need to get to the bottom of this. Be well
Let's clarify this so newly diagnosed people reading this thread do not become alarmed.
Corn is SAFE for celiacs to consume. There is no wheat gluten in corn.
(Corn gluten feed is a by-product from the manufacture of cornstarch and corn syrup. )
The "gluten" protein in corn is NOT harmful to celiacs.
"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir
"It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for the long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security." Anne Morrow Lindbergh
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love."
Lao Tzu
"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy
Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; finally DXed on 11/01/10. I figured it out myself. Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:28 AM
It wasn't until I went glutenfree that I noticed I had an issue with corn too. Of course, it's in pretty much all of the prepackaged glutenfree goods! Guess it kinda forces us to eat healthy, whole foods.
Makes me wonder, though, how many other foods cross-react with gluten (& cause damage) that we don't know about yet, because there haven't been enough studies? I react to dairy, coffee, corn, potato, rice.. the more I read the more it seems it is common among celiacs, to be intolerant to more than just gluten. Food shouldn't be this difficult
There is no evidence of Foods that "cross react" with gluten. This one study mentions maize and another, (for some lactose intolerant individuals) milk.
THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT CELIACS "CROSS-REACT" WITH FOODS, CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE INTESTINES.
This "Dr. Osborne"?? is a chiropractor and a Nutritionist.
He is NOT an expert on Celiac Disease. If you want to learn more about celiac disease, go to
http://www.celiaccenter.org/
or the site Prickly Pear listed above.
Do some celiacs have additional food intolerances? yes. It is because of gut malabsorption or digestive issues or even hereditary lactose intolerance.
But is it not because of "cross reactivity".
"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir
"It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for the long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security." Anne Morrow Lindbergh
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love."
Lao Tzu
"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy
Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; finally DXed on 11/01/10. I figured it out myself. Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:32 AM
I WISH the only thing that happened to me when I eat corn was digestive issues. But instead, I get FIREY psoriasis flares, unbearable insomnia, zombie-like brain fog, in short, the EXACT same symptoms I get from gluten.
Only with corn, the reaction is more severe and lasts longer.
Only with corn, the reaction is more severe and lasts longer.
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