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#16 JNBunnie1

 
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 12:33 PM

That's why it gets digested and metabolized before entering the blood stream. :)

That's right, things do not go directly from your stomach to your bloodstream. Which is why some supplements are sublingual, because it gets into your blood better as a specially formulated liquid under your tongue than it does in your stomach.
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:27 PM

:o
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

Celiac is not communicable via blood transfusions.


Univ. of Maryland Center for Celiac Research states this emphatically on their website.


Hmm, ok, what about vampires then? Would our blood kill vampires?
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:33 PM

Hmm, ok, what about vampires then? Would our blood kill vampires?



Since the majority of us are battling anemia,
the vampire would probably spit it out and scream
"Blech! what the hell is this crap!? :blink:
Where's the good stuff?"

:D
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Posted 28 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

Since the majority of us are battling anemia,
the vampire would probably spit it out and scream
"Blech! what the hell is this crap!? :blink:
Where's the good stuff?"

:lol: :lol:




I always feel like I am going to pass out when they take it.
I mean just walking in to my endo's office I give 6 to 8 tubes. I do not have that much left on any given day :P


My blood type is uncommon (AB) and for years I gave blood regularly. They would call and remind me that enough time had passed and I could give again. :lol:

Then they reluctantly started to decline my blood.

I no longer give blood.With my recent liver issues and other problems they will not except my blood. I an not sure it would do any one any good any way :huh:
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:37 AM

I wonder if there is any chance of people becoming celiac by using our blood? We would have the trained antibodies to gluten in our blood, and it seems like it would not be impossible for those to influence a persons own antibodies in the celiac direction. Just curious if anyone has heard or read anything about this. Could we spread celiac through blood?



Of course not!! I asked before I donated, just to make sure.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:16 PM

That's why it gets digested and metabolized before entering the blood stream. :)


Gluten, or any food for that matter, does not necessarily get digested and metabolized before entering the blood stream. That is only what is supposed to happen. I have been shown partially digested fragments of food in my blood, under a microscope. That's from a leaky gut, with a lot of damage. People can have a leaky gut from other things, like a medication, I've been told. I've also been told, by a doctor addressing a local Gluten Intolerance Group meeting, that people don't fully digest wheat, barley, rye or oats, because some of the proteins are just too large and complex. It only takes a small fraction of a gluten molecule to cause a celiac reaction. There are multiple short chain peptides of gliadin, sequences of only 4 or 5 amino acids that can cause a reaction. There are multiple instances of each of these several peptides in one gliadin molecule. Partial digestion can make these peptides more available for our immune system to react to.:unsure:
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:31 PM

Gluten, or any food for that matter, does not necessarily get digested and metabolized before entering the blood stream. That is only what is supposed to happen. I have been shown partially digested fragments of food in my blood, under a microscope. That's from a leaky gut, with a lot of damage. People can have a leaky gut from other things, like a medication, I've been told. I've also been told, by a doctor addressing a local Gluten Intolerance Group meeting, that people don't fully digest wheat, barley, rye or oats, because some of the proteins are just too large and complex. It only takes a small fraction of a gluten molecule to cause a celiac reaction. There are multiple short chain peptides of gliadin, sequences of only 4 or 5 amino acids that can cause a reaction. There are multiple instances of each of these several peptides in one gliadin molecule. Partial digestion can make these peptides more available for our immune system to react to.:unsure:

Sounds like blood from a donor that ate Gluten could set off DH, in one that has DH...
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 01:49 PM

Whoa, what a second.... :)

One more time:

Celiac is not communicable via blood transfusions.
People who eat gluten cannot "contaminate" us.

Univ. of Maryland Center for Celiac Research states this emphatically on their website.

Do you really think that we would be allowed to donate or receive a blood transfusion if it were a HEALTH HAZARD??


Read a medical journal to see how the digestive process works for you to have an autoimmune reaction to gluten when you have Celiac.

Please, guys.... let's not get all crazy over this NON-ISSUE.

We have enough bogus crap/ myths to bust on this site. :P
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 02:21 PM

Sounds like blood from a donor that ate Gluten could set off DH, in one that has DH...



Capt. honestly..... I would not make that statement, based on one person's post.

that is not how the gluten antibodies OR the digestive system works.

Please read this:

http://digestive.nid...es/pubs/celiac/

I have seen NO medical evidence supporting any of this.... Have you?
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

Gluten, or any food for that matter, does not necessarily get digested and metabolized before entering the blood stream. That is only what is supposed to happen. I have been shown partially digested fragments of food in my blood, under a microscope. That's from a leaky gut, with a lot of damage. People can have a leaky gut from other things, like a medication, I've been told. I've also been told, by a doctor addressing a local Gluten Intolerance Group meeting, that people don't fully digest wheat, barley, rye or oats, because some of the proteins are just too large and complex. It only takes a small fraction of a gluten molecule to cause a celiac reaction. There are multiple short chain peptides of gliadin, sequences of only 4 or 5 amino acids that can cause a reaction. There are multiple instances of each of these several peptides in one gliadin molecule. Partial digestion can make these peptides more available for our immune system to react to.:unsure:


Do you have any articles you could direct me to, to substantiate these statements? This thread indirectly deals with the digestion of gluten proteins...if you are interested. :)

As far as donation and the above logic – I don't know many newly or un-dx'ed Celiac's who would be up to giving blood (presumably the less recently dx'ed ones would have less damage due to the healing). :P

My 3 cents (inflation!). B)
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:01 PM

The thought of undigested food particles , large enough you can tell they are bread or lettuce in the blood, seems incredible. They would clog up your small blood vessels causing small parts of your body to die. The strokes this would cause in your brain alone, should have you unable to post here with in days. If the holes in the intestines were so large as to let food chunks go thru, I would think you would have peritonitis, too. Either way, I don't give your chances of living as more than 2 weeks.

I have seen info about leaky gut, but that is not about holes so large that recognizable food can pass through. Do you have some reputable info about this?
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:09 PM

The thought of undigested food particles , large enough you can tell they are bread or lettuce in the blood, seems incredible. They would clog up your small blood vessels causing small parts of your body to die. The strokes this would cause in your brain alone, should have you unable to post here with in days. If the holes in the intestines were so large as to let food chunks go thru, I would think you would have peritonitis, too.



AAAND there is ............! yeah, what she said!!

thanks, K!
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:17 PM

Sounds like blood from a donor that ate Gluten could set off DH, in one that has DH...

This sort of speculation isn't terribly useful. If you are in a position to be needing whole blood, hypothetical traces of gluten peptides would be the least of your worries.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:21 PM

This sort of speculation isn't terribly useful. If you are in a position to be needing whole blood, hypothetical traces of gluten peptides would be the least of your worries.



Thank you, Sky.
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"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 03:24 PM

The thought of undigested food particles , large enough you can tell they are bread or lettuce in the blood, seems incredible. They would clog up your small blood vessels causing small parts of your body to die. The strokes this would cause in your brain alone, should have you unable to post here with in days. If the holes in the intestines were so large as to let food chunks go thru, I would think you would have peritonitis, too. Either way, I don't give your chances of living as more than 2 weeks.

I have seen info about leaky gut, but that is not about holes so large that recognizable food can pass through. Do you have some reputable info about this?


Thank you! This is what I was attempting to say but couldn't nearly get it out as clearly as you have. :)
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