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#31 IrishHeart

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:13 AM

Let's also note: that one study about Codex wheat starch-- which is designed for food products in EUROPE--- is from 1999.
Is there anything new on this topic and how does it apply to drywall in the US?



EDITED BY IH--

To answer my own question: :)

I found one more study from 2003---
but it was done by the same team in Finland as the 1999 study involving wheat starch in food.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12622768
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:34 AM

Let's also note: that one study is from 1999.

Does the year invalidate the study? :huh:

I offered the study, because I found it of interest and someone else may also.

I don't argue on this forum. Feel free to if you wish. ;)
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:45 AM

Not saying it "invalidates" it, just wondering if anything else was current? Many times, further scientific inquiry yields drastically different results. The one study I found--done a few years later by the same team in Finland regarding specially formulated wheat starch in food--restates their conclusion. That study is about wheat starch in Europe.

This one study does not change my opinion about eating wheat starch myself or wanting it to be on my food or face where it may be ingested.

What celiac would eat wheat starch? :blink:

I'm with Ravenwoodglass on this point.

And I do not know what Codex wheat starch used in food products in Europe has to do with wheat starch used in drywall in the US?


I know you often ask if there is anything current available, don't you? As we all should, so I asked as well.

I am not arguing with you --I do not argue with anyone!--and I think you may have misinterpreted me.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:58 AM

The date of this study might make a difference if the wall board industry has changed the composition of the dry wall. Industries do sometimes drastically change what a product is made from in 10+ years. For instance " wood" siding changed the ingredients in the late 90's as some sidings rotted too quickly. Sometimes an ingredient, for lack of a better word, becomes too expensive and a substitute is used. After Hurricane Andrew, wood building materials were expensive so many switched to metal studs in walls.

Is pertains to food products as well & is why we often remind people that a post is old and they may want to seek more current info.

If you are purchasing the building materials, I have found that they may not list wheat but you can call companies and ask. Some won't give you the ingredient list siteing proprietary issues. I found that they will look at the list and tell me if anything list wheat and found that worked OK. I just say " bad allergy".
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:51 AM

The date of this study might make a difference if the wall board industry has changed the composition of the dry wall. Industries do sometimes drastically change what a product is made from in 10+ years. For instance " wood" siding changed the ingredients in the late 90's as some sidings rotted too quickly. Sometimes an ingredient, for lack of a better word, becomes too expensive and a substitute is used. After Hurricane Andrew, wood building materials were expensive so many switched to metal studs in walls.

Is pertains to food products as well & is why we often remind people that a post is old and they may want to seek more current info.

If you are purchasing the building materials, I have found that they may not list wheat but you can call companies and ask. Some won't give you the ingredient list siteing proprietary issues. I found that they will look at the list and tell me if anything list wheat and found that worked OK. I just say " bad allergy".


Good point Karen. Also there is the question of what was being used in drywall when an existing home was built. 1935?, 1950?, 1970? --- these are all factors as is the age of the drywall in one of those homes. Perhaps at some point after the home was built it received damage from say an "Andrew" & the drywall was replaced. These are things we do not know.



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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:17 AM

Good point Karen. Also there is the question of what was being used in drywall when an existing home was built. 1935?, 1950?, 1970? --- these are all factors as is the age of the drywall in one of those homes. Perhaps at some point after the home was built it received damage from say an "Andrew" & the drywall was replaced. These are things we do not know.



It's a mystery! Because drywall dust isn't good for anyone to breathe, you should use a respirator or at least an allergy/ sawdust mask. We have a respirator mask and it was less than $100, probably less than $50. I can't remember. My kids re- do thier cars & build robots and things, so we needed one. They do make you look like a creature from Star Wars. :D

Meant to add: turn off heat/ AC and cover vents. This is important for any remodel that produces dust, including wood floor sanding. Wait about 2 days and the dust will have fallen out of the air.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:45 AM

Meant to add: turn off heat/ AC and cover vents. This is important for any remodel that produces dust, including wood floor sanding. Wait about 2 days and the dust will have fallen out of the air.

That's a really good point. When I was doing drywall work we would use a fine spray mist of water sprayed into the air to try and get the dust to fall more quickly. It also helps to spray just a bit on the seams to keep the dust down when you are doing the finish sanding on the mud.
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Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

I survived the second day of drywall dust and I do not appear to have gotten glutened. I wore a mask all day, I had to shake out the dropcloths and clean up the dust and I'm sure it's still hanging in the air. So either the mask was really effective in keeping me from inhaling the dust particles with gluten...or....there wasn't any gluten in the drywall to begin with. Either way, I'm really glad you all gave me suggestions and I was able to keep myself safe. I covered my hair, wore the mask, showered when I got home and washed my clothes, and I didn't drink from an open cup or glass, and I ate outside. I usually have a cup of coffee and a glass of water sitting there that I drink out of...thinking of the dust...I only drank water from a closed water bottle. I wore gloves and washed my hands a dozen thousand times. But it worked!!!! I stayed healthy and when I got home, I still had the energy to clean up, dress up, and go out for dinner to the Outback with my son for my birthday. So thanks everyone who helped with this situation. I truly appreciate it. I'm sure the reaction can be delayed so I will be watching for sores or headache, but no severe reaction yet and it's been several hours. Very happy about that!
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:41 PM

That's great news!

And happy happy birthday!!!
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:58 AM

I survived the second day of drywall dust and I do not appear to have gotten glutened. I wore a mask all day, I had to shake out the dropcloths and clean up the dust and I'm sure it's still hanging in the air. So either the mask was really effective in keeping me from inhaling the dust particles with gluten...or....there wasn't any gluten in the drywall to begin with. Either way, I'm really glad you all gave me suggestions and I was able to keep myself safe. I covered my hair, wore the mask, showered when I got home and washed my clothes, and I didn't drink from an open cup or glass, and I ate outside. I usually have a cup of coffee and a glass of water sitting there that I drink out of...thinking of the dust...I only drank water from a closed water bottle. I wore gloves and washed my hands a dozen thousand times. But it worked!!!! I stayed healthy and when I got home, I still had the energy to clean up, dress up, and go out for dinner to the Outback with my son for my birthday. So thanks everyone who helped with this situation. I truly appreciate it. I'm sure the reaction can be delayed so I will be watching for sores or headache, but no severe reaction yet and it's been several hours. Very happy about that!


YAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!

Keep us posted.


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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:15 AM

FANTASTIC NEWS, SWEETIE! We can all stop holding our collective breath now--okay, everyone! Breathe!! :lol:


Hope you and T had a wonderful birthday dinner!!xxoo

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"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir

"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy

"If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else" Booker T. Washington

“If idiots could fly, the sky would be like an airport.”― Laura Davenport 

"Do or do not. There is no try. "-  Yoda.

"LTES"  Gem 2014

 

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:29 AM

Great to hear that things have gone well. Do have a Happy Birthday!!!
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celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007

Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15

Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom


Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:33 AM

Happy Birthday! :)
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

I will be doing some remodeling soon and after reading this thread I contacted USG, the makers of Sheetrock Brand, about wheat being in their products. Specifically I asked about :

SHEETROCK® Brand Easy Sand™ Lightweight Setting-Type Joint Compounds
SHEETROCK® Brand All-Purpose Joint Compound
SHEETROCK® Brand Gypsum Panels


This was my reply:
"We do not use wheat in the production of any of our products. We do recommend wearing a dust mask when sanding any of our Joint Compounds though."

Regards,

Chris Curtiss
Specialist/Service Improvement
Technical Support
550 West Adams St.
Chicago, IL 60661
(312)436-8322

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

We are having extensive work done on our house at the moment to make room for a bedroom for my disabled hubby, unfortunately our 7 yr old girl has been ill twice this week and we have noticed a small amount of dry skin formimg on her face. It was purely by a chance remark by someone on the Coeliac uk facebook page that made me google it and I came up with this site. I am so horrified by this and the fact that our daughters health is at risk  :huh: feel awful. Will be eager of any advise you can give

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