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Pity Party, Frustration, How To Lose Weight?


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#1 RuskitD

 
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:35 PM

This is partly a whine, and mostly begging for someone to give me a clue as to what I can do to improve my life, and get some of this weight off, and have some energy!!!!

I haven't had a good nights sleep in 3 weeks, so this is adding to my mental state of depression. I went from sleeping like a baby, to suddenly cannot fall asleep or stay asleep. Two nights of melatonin hasn't helped, but I will keep it up.

I am mildly obese and miserable. I tried all last year to lose weight, no matter how much I ate or how little, how much I exercised or lay lethargic, I stay the same weight.
Even when I had 6 weeks of raging mucus diarrhea and not eating for days on end back in January, I didn't lose an ounce. I thought it was inflammation? And that as I healed it would ... melt away....?

I am not officially diagnosed as Celiac, (tho I had "failure to thrive" as a child and had many lung/breathing problems then. I believe I was born with this) but most definitely at the least have a gluten intolerance. I have been on gluten-free diet for 4 months now, last accidental glutening ( a tiny pill "got" me) 3 months ago.
Within a month of going gluten-free I discovered the secondary corn/soy intolerance and removed those offenders.

I 'tested' myself for dairy and do fine with that, tho I eat very little of it.
I did not substitute with any gluten-free processed foods. I have cut out all grains and legumes. I even quit drinking any coffee or tea. Just filtered water.

My diet basically consists of lean chicken, and fatty fish. Occasionally I have eggs, lean beef or pork also. And veggies, except no potatoes.
Nearly no fruit.

I use only coconut oil, that is what I make my salad dressing with.

I take good gluten-free, CF, Soy Free vitamins. extra c and d, as well as getting sun. I also began Glutamine, as I read it can help heal the gut. Though it reduced my already small appetite. I somewhat force myself to eat most days. Then I question if I should force myself... or listen to my body and not feed it.....?????

My brain fog lifted immediately after stopping gluten, but seems to be back with no changes in diet or supplements to show a cause. I sound like a blithering idiot some days when I talk. Its quite embarrassing.

This weight and my weakness is misery. I was a strong person before my crash. I have lost so much muscle, and I can't even open a jar myself anymore. I know with my weight remaining steady, I have replaced muscle weight with fat weight. Most all of it is in my stomach. I am trying to exercise, even weight lift, to regain some muscle and help budge the weight. Though the last two weeks I haven't the energy.

i barely make it through a day, with not getting good sleep. I have been hoeing in my garden some, I try to keep moving, but my muscles feel like rubber.
.... at least I am not gaining, I guess....

Anyone have any ideas? I have read until I am exhausted from the knowledge, I have implemented so many things, and still I feel I am not getting better, since the brain fog remains. I know a lot of things have improved greatly.... I guess I am impatient? Reducing my weight can't come soon enough....

help?
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:40 PM

thyroid?
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 06:02 PM

Vitamin B complex is good for energy. I take it but if I take it after noon I can't fall asleep until late so I have to take at breakfast :)

It's hard to find the balance of food, but if you eat too little your metabolism slows down way to much to compensate and you can't loose weight then.

Have you considered seeing a nutritionist? They can help give you ideas around your diet that can jump start you metabolism.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 06:10 PM

Yes, I agree that your thyroid might be out of whack, which is really common with celiac. It comes with brain fog, fatigue, sleep problems, and failure to lose weight. Personally, I also get sore joints.

However, you may also have a manganese (not magnesium) deficiency or other deficiency that is affecting your muscles, and possibly your tendons and ligaments.

Lastly, although your diet sounds fairly close to the primal/paleo diet, I didn't see a lot of healthy saturated fats (except coconut oil). From the book, "Primal Body, Primal Mind," I learned that healthy saturated fats are absolutely essential for losing weight and maintaining a healthy weight. Before then, my life sounded just like yours--no matter what I did, I couldn't lose weight. I was even a lifelong runner! Anyway, after reading the aforementioned book, I discovered that if I added in lots of healthy saturated fats, my weight just melted away effortlessly. I eat a lot of avocados, nuts and nut butters, olives, and organic butter. Like you, I eat very little fruit (just berries) and avoid soy, legumes, and potatoes.

I hope you'll read the book--it's hands down the best book on nutrition and diet that I've ever read.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:18 PM

Corn was the key to taking me down the salicylates path (and thankful to all on here that led me there:).
Salicylates (sals for short) are a bit of a minefield but after a few months now I feel like I'm getting a handle on it.
Here is another hard with sals. Most of the healthy saturated fats that rosetapper mentions in the previous post are high in sals. If you investigate/test these two paths you will want to test them separately. If it were me I'd try the healthy sat fats and if you don't have any noticable change (or indeed you get worse symptoms/weight gain) then it might be the high sals. Then you could work on the sals. Just a thought.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:20 PM

http://salicylatesensitivity.com/
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:38 PM

Sugar is evil wrt losing weight. Are you avoiding it, even in your tea/coffee?
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:41 AM

Thank you for the answers thus far! You are so wonderful to come in and try to help me!!!! I truly need all the answers I can get.

Thyroid... I wondered. i am without health insurance for the next 3 months, but if I see no response in feeling better by then, I am going to beg the doctor to run the tests.

I consume no sugar, and I quit tea and coffee. I drink nothing but filtered water.

I will try the healthy fats, in addition to the coconut oil, and then I will try cutting the sals.
THANK YOU so much for the ideas.

I will get and read that book also.

If anyone else has a suggestion, I am open and willing to try!!!

Thank you again for giving me some more hope, while I am feeling so yucky, miserable and hopeless.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 01:56 PM

Thank you for the answers thus far! You are so wonderful to come in and try to help me!!!! I truly need all the answers I can get.

Thyroid... I wondered. i am without health insurance for the next 3 months, but if I see no response in feeling better by then, I am going to beg the doctor to run the tests.

I consume no sugar, and I quit tea and coffee. I drink nothing but filtered water.

I will try the healthy fats, in addition to the coconut oil, and then I will try cutting the sals.
THANK YOU so much for the ideas.

I will get and read that book also.

If anyone else has a suggestion, I am open and willing to try!!!

Thank you again for giving me some more hope, while I am feeling so yucky, miserable and hopeless.




I told my mother to start eating organic butter, cream, coconut products, and organic red meats that are not lean cuts. Like you, she was mostly eating only vegetables an chicken, lean meats. She dropped 20 lbs in 6 months doing this, with no increase in activity.

What happens is, vitamins A, D, E, and K are fat soluble. If you are not eating enough fat to help your stomach digest them, your body will still think it's starving and it's impossible to lose weight. Also, these fats are important for keeping the tissues in you digestive system healthy. Your intestines are made up of nerve cells like the ones in your brain and epithelial cells, like in your skin. Your brain and skin cells do not function well when deprived of fats, and neither do your intestines! The healthier your intestines, the happier the rest of you will be.

Can you tell me if you feel like you're forcing food because you're just not hungry, or because you're feeling ill?
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:51 PM

JNBunnie1, thank you for your reply and idea. Something else for me to work on.
Tho, may I ask, what if I cannot get easy access to organic? Think the same may happen if it isn't organic? I understand the importance of staying away from grains, especially GMO, and even if they are 'processed' through an animal. I just haven't found an affordable source locally. Yes, I believe my health is worth it. But some of us are of limited means, especially when I cannot hold a job!

I am just NOT hungry. Making myself eat, makes me feel ill. My stomach doesn't want it, and then even a small amount feels like a rock and makes me feel uncomfortable.
I felt this way when I quit gluten. I took it then as my gut healing, adjusting.... I force fed myself and walked around feeling ill because of it. Then I stopped the force feeding and just went with what my body said to do. I began to get an appetite. Now its gone again. Truly, I could go days without eating, I think, and then become hungry one day and eat.
I DON'T go without eating, but I don't eat much, I guess.
Whiny sounding as it is... I just HATE deliberately inducing myself to feel ill, after having been through the 6 weeks of raging D, heartburn, exhaustion, etc....I suffered, until doctors ruled out other causes, and I, myself, with this forum, figured out my problem.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 06:06 PM

Do you keep a food diary? Track your eating on a health site like spark people or livestrong to see what your balance of nutrition is?
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 09:17 AM

Yes, I agree that your thyroid might be out of whack, which is really common with celiac. It comes with brain fog, fatigue, sleep problems, and failure to lose weight. Personally, I also get sore joints.

However, you may also have a manganese (not magnesium) deficiency or other deficiency that is affecting your muscles, and possibly your tendons and ligaments.

Lastly, although your diet sounds fairly close to the primal/paleo diet, I didn't see a lot of healthy saturated fats (except coconut oil). From the book, "Primal Body, Primal Mind," I learned that healthy saturated fats are absolutely essential for losing weight and maintaining a healthy weight. Before then, my life sounded just like yours--no matter what I did, I couldn't lose weight. I was even a lifelong runner! Anyway, after reading the aforementioned book, I discovered that if I added in lots of healthy saturated fats, my weight just melted away effortlessly. I eat a lot of avocados, nuts and nut butters, olives, and organic butter. Like you, I eat very little fruit (just berries) and avoid soy, legumes, and potatoes.

I hope you'll read the book--it's hands down the best book on nutrition and diet that I've ever read.

I just watch an hour long lecture by the author of this book. I had never heard of this diet before. It sounds like it's right on the money. How fast do you lost the weight? Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:35 AM

I don't have all the answers. But I just wanted to wish you well. I know the feeling of studying and studying and not seeming to get anywhere. But one day I finally cracked a big root, stopped eating gluten, and started recovery. I am told itwill be 6 months for me to do the great majority of the recovery. Some say it can take 2-3 years and after only 30 years of really being off!
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:00 PM

JNBunnie1, thank you for your reply and idea. Something else for me to work on.
Tho, may I ask, what if I cannot get easy access to organic? Think the same may happen if it isn't organic? I understand the importance of staying away from grains, especially GMO, and even if they are 'processed' through an animal. I just haven't found an affordable source locally. Yes, I believe my health is worth it. But some of us are of limited means, especially when I cannot hold a job!

I am just NOT hungry. Making myself eat, makes me feel ill. My stomach doesn't want it, and then even a small amount feels like a rock and makes me feel uncomfortable.
I felt this way when I quit gluten. I took it then as my gut healing, adjusting.... I force fed myself and walked around feeling ill because of it. Then I stopped the force feeding and just went with what my body said to do. I began to get an appetite. Now its gone again. Truly, I could go days without eating, I think, and then become hungry one day and eat.
I DON'T go without eating, but I don't eat much, I guess.
Whiny sounding as it is... I just HATE deliberately inducing myself to feel ill, after having been through the 6 weeks of raging D, heartburn, exhaustion, etc....I suffered, until doctors ruled out other causes, and I, myself, with this forum, figured out my problem.


You can order lab tests without a doctor's appointment. There are online lab companies that send you the order and you take it to a local lab draw location, like LabCorp.

There are also saliva tests for hormones, including thyroid.

http://thyroid.about...selftesting.htm

The main problem will be treatment if you have a thyroid problem, which will require an rx. But cross that bridge when you come to it.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 07:44 PM

sillyken,

If you follow the primal diet stringently, a weight loss of 5-10 pounds per week is doable. I have to admit that I only follow the regimen closely about four days a week, and then I cheat the rest of the time. However, when I get serious and follow the diet strictly for a week, I always drop at least five pounds. So far, I haven't gained the weight back because I do follow the diet, like I said, for four days per week. On the other days, I only cheat with one meal and am careful to eat primal for the other two meals. My weight loss has been consistent, and I hope to be back to normal weight shortly. This really is an effortless way to eat, and the changes I see to my body tell me that it's the RIGHT way to eat.
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