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How Much Is Enough Gluten For Testing?


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#1 VydorScope

 
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 10:23 AM

Would say a bowl of Cherrios every morning for say 3 months be enough? How much is enough to insure an accurate bloodtest?
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:11 AM

How big a bowl? How big a person?

For an adult, not at all. For a small child, an adult size bowl would be certainly enough, but a small child's bowl, maybe not (I'm not sure how big they really are). For an adult, the average recommendation is 2-3 slices of wheat bread a day for three months.

The other problem is using Cherrios. They are primarily oats, and the exposure requirements to show a positive may be different for oats, even if they are contaminated.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:21 AM

2-3 slices a day for 3 months is recommended as Tiffany said.
I would say do something other than Cheerios though because that is mainly oats and even though they are contaminated they may not have as much gluten in it as you would need.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:21 AM

How big a bowl?  How big a person?

For an adult, not at all.  For a small child, an adult size bowl would be certainly enough, but a small child's bowl, maybe not (I'm not sure how big they really are).  For an adult, the average recommendation is 2-3 slices of wheat bread a day for three months.

The other problem is using Cherrios.  They are primarily oats, and the exposure requirements to show a positive may be different for oats, even if they are contaminated.

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BAH!!!!!!!!!

THAT is what I was affaird you were gonna say. I am 5"11 and 170pounds, talking about 60grams ie 2 "severings".

*gets list out, and puts celiac disease back on it*

Thats about the only gluten I had regualrly up to the testing.

I ask cause well I had removed celiac disease from the list and was ready to move on down the list... but thought about the fact that I had pretty much dropped the grains group from my diet save for 1 bowl of Berrie Burst Cherrios in AM. Prbly enough ot make me feel like crap, but not enough to show in test. BAH!!!
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:23 AM

2-3 slices a day for 3 months is recommended as Tiffany said.
I would say do something other than Cheerios though because that is mainly oats and even though they are contaminated they may not have as much gluten in it as you would need.

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BAH!!! Figures cheerios be bad choise, maybe I'll go back to Total Rasin Brand and start over

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:29 AM

How would you convert 2-3 slices of bread to something like ceral? I dont like the idea of bread in my house, to crumbly. I like the idea of cearl since 5 days a week I eat breakfast at work, no chance of tolddler getting any. If he was older and knew to aviod it I be less concerned... but he not and he TEETHING (last 4 molars) so EVERYTHING gets in his mouth. No gluten in our house! To risky right now.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:47 AM

How would you convert 2-3 slices of bread to something like ceral? I dont like the idea of bread in my house, to crumbly.

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How about a bowl of shredded wheat in the morning (or Raisin Bran :-) ), and a bagel during the day? Bagels aren't as crumbly or messy as bread, but good ones are made with plenty of gluten.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:52 AM

How about a bowl of shredded wheat in the morning (or Raisin Bran :-) ), and a bagel during the day?  Bagels aren't as crumbly or messy as bread, but good ones are made with plenty of gluten.

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Gotta be RASIN brand. Maybe a cinamon RASIN bagel... hmm I hate this, but since I have only negative blood work right now, not realy getting better, I gotta do it I guess. :( I need to be able to cross this off the list some how or prove it. If I cna prove it maybe I can be done being sick and getting tested constantly for new things...
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 12:32 PM

Why can't you just add raisins to the shredded wheat then?
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 03:43 PM

Why can't you just add raisins to the shredded wheat then?

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I could and mabye for varity I will, but why shreaded wheat over rasinbran? The bran flaks are wheat, right?
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 04:23 PM

I used Kellog's varieties for this comparison, but I believe it hold true in general:
Raisin Bran has only half the protein that Shredded Wheat does. It's that protein that you want to load up on, so you want to maximize that. Heck, cream of wheat with wheat bran added would be even better, but not necessarily as tasty. :-)
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 04:25 PM

I used Kellog's varieties for this comparison, but I believe it hold true in general:
Raisin Bran has only half the protein that Shredded Wheat does.  It's that protein that you want to load up on, so you want to maximize that.  Heck, cream of wheat with wheat bran added would be even better, but not necessarily as tasty. :-)

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Protein? Im confused.. gluten is not the same as protien... :blink: :huh:
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 04:28 PM

Protein? Im confused.. gluten is not the same as protien...  :blink:  :huh:

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It is! Gluten is the term for plant proteins. Gliandin is the particular gluten (or protein) that is in wheat that bothers celiacs.
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 04:37 PM

It is!  Gluten is the term for plant proteins.  Gliandin is the particular gluten (or protein) that is in wheat that bothers celiacs.

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:huh: :huh: Umm okay.. well after I eat this box of Krogers Raisn Bran... I'll get some kroger miniwheats.. and add rasins!!! :D :lol:

Hears what got me thinking about all this celiac disease junk agian... on Tuesday I had a 9" pizza (yes a "real" one, and yes was very good...with peperoni!) and on wendsay I had some cookies (remeber, 2 neg biopsies, and 1 neg blood test.... had ruled out celiac disease) and many of my phatom un solvable symptoms have goten worse (nausa, gas, etc). Still are today. Soooo start thinking about it again and realize that maybe have not realy given the blood test a fair run. So.. bought some Rasinbran and 6 cininamon rasin begals today... If it is celiac disease then next couple months gonna suck, but at least I will know.. if not... well at least its rule out for good. :huh:
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Posted 09 September 2005 - 04:44 PM

If you really like raisin bran, go with it. I didn't mean to sound like it wasn't an option, I just put the shredded wheat down because of the protein content. Have a bit bigger of a bowl of raisin bran for breakfast or ah extra bowl for dessert. If it's going to cause symptoms, at least you can enjoy what you're eating in taste. :-)
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