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#16 bartfull

 
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:45 AM

So, one way to look at this would be to poll the members here. Has anyone without OTHER intolerances ever been sickened by any Kraft, Con-Agra, or General Mills product that lists no gluten ingredients, but does not bear the gluten-free label?
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:51 AM

Add Unilever to that list.


All good here with those companies.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:08 AM

I understand that Kraft is being crafty

You have the option not to buy their products if you are unhappy with their practices.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:19 AM

It was gemini's response I didn't like in the first place, not yours skylark.

Thanks, but Gemini and I were basically saying the same thing.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

It was gemini's response I didn't like in the first place, not yours skylark.



Oh...this begs a response......sorry if you don't like common sense and reality, cavernio, but guess what? The food world does not revolve around you.
To even imply that most of the people on this forum aren't careful enough with their diets is an ignorant thing to whine about. Just because someone eats a Kraft product does not mean they are taking undue chances with their gluten-free diet so you should not make such loose comments. You need to learn about this diet and how to read a label. Take advice from others in the know without getting snippy about it and either learn what we are talking about OR eat only whole foods and certified gluten free. Your experience with Celiac is not any different than mine or many others. We all got extremely ill, some nearly died, but we all are recovering well or recovered and many eat Kraft products and lived to tell about it.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:54 AM

I think another way to look at this too is that Kraft and all others are businesses. Even though they are nice enough to be as honest and up front as they can be to the folks of the gluten free community....they still run a business and they still have to cover their butts legally from any folks that might want to sue them.

I think it's hard to look at things like this without some sort of emotional view because lets face it we have all been extremely ill and don't want to go back to being like that, so the though that our food isn't safe is kinda of overwhelming. But looking at this logically without bring in that fear of the emotional "omg I might get sick" aspect we can see that they are doing their best, they have been honest and they have to protect themselves legally. They are not out to hurt us or don't care about us per say, but at the same time the consumer has the power to either make or break them, so I think the gluten free consumers have backed them because of positive experience. I mean look at what we did to Domino's. :)

Take what you will from that but I think common sense and bit of logic when reading labels and making decisions might be the best practice.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

I'm upset because there's there is misinformation being posted to this board about Kraft products.
This has nothing to do with reading a label and everything to do with people asking 'Is blank Kraft product gluten-free?' and people replying 'yes, it is gluten-free'.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:24 AM

I'm upset because there's there is misinformation being posted to this board about Kraft products.
This has nothing to do with reading a label and everything to do with people asking 'Is blank Kraft product gluten-free?' and people replying 'yes, it is gluten-free'

Could you be more specific about the misinformation?
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:28 AM

The only information I have seen posted when someone has a question about Kraft products is what has already been posted in this thread - that Kraft will list in parentheses, if an igredient is from a gluten source. I have also seen the CYA statement made. Neither of these is misinformation.

This site has more and better information about celiac than any other site I have seen on the web. When someone like Skylark who is a scientist, posts something, you can take it to the bank. There are many many others whose word I will trust over any doctor out there.

And not only that, but I trust Kraft, whose products I eat every day with no reaction whatsoever.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:28 AM

http://www.celiac.co...t-miracle-whip/

You answered her, telling her it was gluten-free, when Kraft themselves told her it might contain gluten.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:30 AM

Skylark is not in great health last I saw. Skylark has also not said that Kraft's products are safe unless the label says otherwise.

I trust no one, or at least that's the way it's going.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:37 AM

http://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/topic/59966-kraft-miracle-whip/

You answered her, telling her it was gluten-free, when Kraft themselves told her it might contain gluten.


There are no gluten containing ingredients in that listing.

I trust Kraft and many other companies whose policy is to list all forms of gluten on their ingredient listing or allergen statement.

If you don't trust them, don't buy them!

I think that the members here can make an informed judgement on what products to buy, without your rant.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

What's unreasonable is focusing solely on Kraft when what you have written is true for every single major food manufacturer. If you feel that way, you need to avoid ALL processed foods that are not GFCO certified and/or from dedicated facilities. You are freaking out over some CYA legalese. Use your common sense!

We know processed foods are CC. Why do you think most new members get advised to eat whole foods?

This is what Skylark said. CYA (cover your ...butt) legalese. Same thing the rest of us have been saying. NO company can realistically GUARANTEE that something is gluten-free, any more than you can walk into a grocery store and be GUARANTEED that even the produce you buy hasn't been CC'd. (Could have been grown with wheat straw mulch, could have been stored next to the flour in the warehouse, could have been handled by a previous customer's gluteny hands.)

But generally speaking, Kraft foods are safely LABELED, and unless you grow everything yourself and eat only those things, you might as well trust an HONEST company like Kraft. Or Con-Agra, or any of the others who go out of their way to label things so clearly.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

Skylark is not in great health last I saw. Skylark has also not said that Kraft's products are safe unless the label says otherwise.

I trust no one, or at least that's the way it's going.

I'm confused? What does my health or lack thereof have to do with Kraft? Does being sick somehow magically negate my Ph.D.?

As for what I've posted I'm sure you can find somewhere I said a particular processed food was safe. I don't write a processed food CC disclaimer every time someone posts an ingredient list and asks if there is gluten. Besides, if I were inclined to eat them, I would tolerate products like Miracle Whip or Oscar Mayer meats just fine. I don't eat them because I don't care for food chemicals and preservatives, not becasue I'm worried about gluten CC.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:00 PM

I trust no one, or at least that's the way it's going.

Then choose your foods accordingly. This is really nothing worth getting worked up about. Every person on this board draws their own line when it comes to deciding what is appropriate for his, or her health.
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