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#16 bartfull

 
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:56 AM

I ate the rice yesterday because the sweet potato the day before made me sick. I never had any trouble with Uncle Ben's rice before. I have been eating it regularly for the past 15 months.

I'm leaning toward candida. The yogurt made me feel better and I haven't had any problem since I ate it yesterday. Today I am going to eat a bit of yogurt before trying some chicken again. Then I will wait to see if I start getting gassy again. If I do I'll eat more yogurt.

I was taking a probiotic all along but it was a non-refrigerated one. It was the only one I could find that didn't have corn in it. It didn't seem to do much for me but I took it anyway. After I started tolerating corn starch I decided to get a refrigerated one because I know those are better. But I lost corn starch again after that glutening so I stopped taking it.

So this is what I'm thinking: If it is indeed candida, I can stop eating any sweets except that yogurt. I can stop eating carbs except the few carbs in cauliflower and maybe some occasional broccoli. I will just eat lots of meat and yogurt. I know I won't be getting the nutrition I need, but if it is candida I need to get rid of it. Maybe after a few months I can add some things back.

I have read so much conflicting info about candida diets. I know sugars and carbs feed the little buggers, but other than that, I'm not sure. Some folks claim a few months will do the trick. Others go to the other extreme and say one can NEVER eat sugars and carbs again or it will come right back. Why is it so hard to get good solid information?
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Can't eat soy, corn, or foods high in salicylates.

Nightshades now seem to bother me too.

 

BUT I CAN STILL PLAY MY GUITAR AND THAT"S ALL THAT MATTERS!

 


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#17 dilettantesteph

 
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

If it is glutening, then it would have to be something that you are still eating after so long, I think. Have you recently changed your source for any of those things? Someone else mentioned eating the things separately to figure out which one it is. I think that's a good idea. I hope you feel better soon.
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#18 Takala

 
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:57 AM

After reading this thread and thinking about it, I would hazard a guess you have a problem with something in your current batch of cooked chicken. How frustrating.

You can't eat just a lot of yogurt and meat and expect to get rid of candida - that isn't a balanced diet, and a lot of dairy, even in yogurt form, even with sugar taken out, can cause candida to flare up- which I don't think is your problem, anyway. :( But a flare up isn't necessarily going to give you D, it just might give you some itching. I suspect this is partially a reaction to the antibiotic you had to take to get the tooth thing under control, which has wiped out some of your good gut flora, which the yogurt would then be helping, but you either have germs or cross contamination somewhere in your line of food as it comes from the farm and ends up on your plate.

I have seen a lot of so- called "candida" friendly diets on the internet, such as wildly loose interpretations of "paleo," that have recipes which are so loaded with alternate sugars and an awful lot of palm fat, I want to laugh, plus they are doing all these strange rules to avoid certain vegetables, but I bet they taste really good. Sorry, folks, but cave men did not eat cupcakes ! :P


Others go to the other extreme and say one can NEVER eat sugars and carbs again or it will come right back. Why is it so hard to get good solid information?


Because everybody is different. A person who actually couldn't eat sugars again is likely extremely insulin resistant, borderline type II diabetic, or isn't acknowledging that fruits have sugars. They are not also acknowledging that vegetables have some carbohydrates, that a little vegetable carb isn't going to kill them, and that even if they are eating a whole bunch of supposedly low carb vegetables like carrots, they are really loading themselves up with sugars. I have made this mistake of using a lot of carrot juice in recipes, it literally made me sick because it is too sweet.


You aren't doing Splenda, are you ? I had to stop that.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:13 AM

I feel your pain all to well. I too, am getting worse everyday. I can not stop running to the bathroom. I can go about 1/2 to an hour before running and i really got to go. It does not matter what I eat. It all runs through me quickly and explosively. I am gluten intolerant, allergic to casein and I believe soy. I can not have nuts or seeds or corn products. I have switched to all natural chicken, organic products and have also cut out nitrates and nitrites, as well as high fructose corn syrup. It's been really tough. I am seeking a second opinion. Been is hospital all weekend for painful cramps and abdominal pain and all my bloodwork is normal. Go figure. I do not think that it is a virus or still from your glutening. Seek your doctor and a second opinion. It's awful to have to deal with this and daily life, but i really understnd you.
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#20 bartfull

 
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:27 AM

Steph, I got glutened almost three weeks ago now by a different brand of rice which turned out to be cross contaminated. I haven't been right since. It has been getting progressively worse instead of better no matter what I eat (except for the yogurt).

Takala, I've been eating chicken lately but I had pork chops before that and they did the same thing so I don't think I got a bad batch of chicken. But I have good news (I think). I ate some of the chicken and some organic cheese a little over an hour ago, and although I hear my stomach gurgling, so far I'm feeling OK. In a lttle while I'm going to eat some more yogurt. It seems that the probiotics in the yogurt settle things right down for me. They did yesterday. I was running and had terrible gas pains yesterday and after eating quite a bit of yogurt it stopped and didn't come back all night. It probably IS leftover from the antibiotics. I think with the help of all of you good people here I am finally on the right track.

THANK YOU ALL!!!
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Can't eat soy, corn, or foods high in salicylates.

Nightshades now seem to bother me too.

 

BUT I CAN STILL PLAY MY GUITAR AND THAT"S ALL THAT MATTERS!

 


#21 bartfull

 
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:34 AM

Luvnascar, welcome to the forum. I'm sorry to hear you are so sick. When I first started I develpoed a severe intolerance to corn too. And soy. And nightshades. And salicylates. AND pesticides and chemical fertilizers. You are on the right track eating organic. Your system is, as my nutritionist put it, "in hyperdrive". You are reacting to almost everything just as I was.

Stick with organics, read as much as you can about hidden corn, be scrupulous with your diet, and read every label. Whole foods (nothing processed) is the way to go, but even whole foods are not safe from corn. If you need help finding hidden sources of corn, PM me. I'd be happy to help as much as I can.

I hope you start feeling better SOON. ((((HUGS))))
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Can't eat soy, corn, or foods high in salicylates.

Nightshades now seem to bother me too.

 

BUT I CAN STILL PLAY MY GUITAR AND THAT"S ALL THAT MATTERS!

 


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:48 AM

I take PB8, a refrigerated probiotic thats veggie caps, it says capsul- cellulose, water, silica. Dunno if that's ok for corn, as i have not had to avoid corn, but this probiotic works very well on me.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 12:23 PM

Well, Barty (and everyone :lol: ) you have heard my spiel on probiotics, but I'll say it again: take them!! The small amount of them in a container of yogurt is doing squat to replenish your gut "good guys". You need some big guns.

Custom Probiotics (powder form) are free of gluten, dairy, soy and corn. I asked him when I started using them.

They are expensive, yes, but they are broad spectrum, multi-strain and completely turned around my "negligible beneficial gut bacteria" test results that I had at DX.

I hope you feel better soon, hon.
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:39 PM

Hi, I hope you are feeling better! I don't think it should continue to get worse but when I'm glutened I do think it damages everything and i lose the good gut bacteria. I would try a good probiotic. I know some people think they are balogna but I have found a lot of success with them. Ive used phillipscolon health but I believe there are some more effective ones that are live. Just make sure the one you are buying is gluten-free and if you have trouble with dairy double check that as well. Whole foods usually has a large selection. I also use ginger water to get things leveled out again (just peel fresh ginger, cut it up and toss in hot or cold water) this has always helped but I don't know if it will change anything about your frequency to the bathroom.
Hope this helps!!!!!
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