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Daughter Dxd Dh Celiac, Went gluten-free, But Dh Persists
#1
Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:37 PM
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#2
Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:22 PM
My daughter who is 9 was diagnosed with dh form of celiac a month and a half ago. When she was diagnosed she had severe dh patches on her arms, knees, shoulders, neck and face. She has been 100% gluten-free for a month and a half. While the dh areas are better in most places, the areas on her arms are still bad, though not as bad. New lesions are still forming. How long will it take for this to stop? It is still very itchy for her and she scratches til it bleeds and we have had persistent staph issues when the open lesions are exposed. Thank you.
mine took 4 months of being gluten free to disappear.. but i also only had a small patch on my stomach and random bumps on my forearms
2008- AntiGliadin IGA/IGg~ Negative,TTG IGA/IGg~ Weak Positive, Endomysial Antibody~ Positive, IGA Deficient.
no biopsy (insurance denied)
6/2010- Enterolab Gene Test:
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1 0302
HLA-DQB1 Allele 2 0302
HLADQ 3,3 (subtype 8,8)
7/2010- 100% Gluten Free
8/2010- DH
10/2010-Hypothyroid dx-> 12/2010 Hashimoto's dx + 1/11- Graves dx :(
#3
Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:35 PM
She may need to limit it for a while. Iodine spreads it like gasoline, for some people.
Probable Endometriosis, in remission from childbirth since 2002.
Hashimoto's DX 2005.
Gluten-Free since 6/2011.
DH (and therefore Celiac) dx from ND.
Responsive to iodine withdrawal for DH (see quote, above).
Genetic tests reveal half DQ2, half DQ8 - I'm a weird bird!
#4
Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:43 AM
Also dh is VERY, VERY sensitive to the tiniest amount of gluten so she will need to be extremely careful about cross contamination.
Read threads on here for help with controlling the itch as much as possible. She has to learn not to scratch it. I know --- it's near impossible but can be done. If she keeps scratching she will be scarred badly. And scratching doesn't stop the itch; if anything it only seems to serve to make it itch worse.
Gluten free Dec. 2011
Soy free Dec. 2011
Hubs self diagnosed dh March 30, 2012
Hubs gluten free March 30, 2012
#5
Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:56 AM
As the above posters said, scratching does cause it to be so much more itchy. Keep nails very short and possibly wear cotton gloves at home?
I did low iodine for three weeks and noticed no difference in symptoms.
#6
Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:17 AM
We have the added difficulty that she has autism so this is a very difficult change for her not to be able to eat what she is accustomed to. I am very, very concerned about cross contamination as we live in a small town where no one knows about celiac or gluten. So even if I know a food is gluten free it could still be cross contaminated. We went to olive garden and ordered off of the gluten-free menu and the pasta was obviously gluten-free but I still worried about the sauce. And the salad. (no croutons). Basically I am preparing everything at home and google to see if it is gluten.
She is already scarred from scratching the dh. The dr said it should heal but the skin there is different-thicker, coarser, and discolored. I use neosporin on the areas and cover them when she lets me but she can scratch through the coverings. We also have a prescription steroid cream that doesn't help at all so I think I should stop using it.
I will continue reading on this site for more tips. Thanks.
#7
Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:18 AM
Steroids are a mixed bag - it brings down inflammation but can impair healing. When she goes off them it WILL flare.
Some people use benzocaine ointment to numb them.
Probable Endometriosis, in remission from childbirth since 2002.
Hashimoto's DX 2005.
Gluten-Free since 6/2011.
DH (and therefore Celiac) dx from ND.
Responsive to iodine withdrawal for DH (see quote, above).
Genetic tests reveal half DQ2, half DQ8 - I'm a weird bird!
#8
Posted 21 September 2012 - 01:48 PM
Thank you for the replies.
We have the added difficulty that she has autism so this is a very difficult change for her not to be able to eat what she is accustomed to. I am very, very concerned about cross contamination as we live in a small town where no one knows about celiac or gluten. So even if I know a food is gluten free it could still be cross contaminated. We went to olive garden and ordered off of the gluten-free menu and the pasta was obviously gluten-free but I still worried about the sauce. And the salad. (no croutons). Basically I am preparing everything at home and google to see if it is gluten.
She is already scarred from scratching the dh. The dr said it should heal but the skin there is different-thicker, coarser, and discolored. I use neosporin on the areas and cover them when she lets me but she can scratch through the coverings. We also have a prescription steroid cream that doesn't help at all so I think I should stop using it.
I will continue reading on this site for more tips. Thanks.
For me, Ranitidine (generic for Zantac) 150mg and colloidal silver sprayed on the rash helped reduce the itching and the silver also reduced my blisters (or, more accurately, my blisters reduced in size and discomfort every time I sprayed them with the colloidal silver; I find no research indicating this is the result I should have gotten, but this is my personal experience).
I haven't found research on the silver related to DH, but I tried it on a whim out of desperation. Taken orally for a long period of time or in large quantities, silver can cause Argyria, a condition of excess silver in the body that turns the user's skin blue or gray. My research did not turn up incidents of Argyria in patients using silver topically. Silver, in the form of silver nitrite, is still required by law in most states as an eye drop to prevent eye infection in newborns and silver's effectiveness as an eye drop to treat conjunctivitis is documented to some extent. I came to the conclusion, for myself, that it is not likely to hurt used topically so long as I don't overdo it. Keep in mind that a lot of claims about the "miracles" of silver floating around on the internet are not backed by research.
#9
Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:49 PM
#10
Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:16 PM
I've had a patch on my leg for nearly 6 months now. I think some spots take time, a lot of time. I also talked to a new dermatologist today and he recommended the drug Dapsone, I still need to look into it more but he seemed to think it would help clear things up?
Dapsone makes the dh go away but doesn't "cure" it. The itching will stop very quickly --- in days or a week. But I would advise you to research Dapsone very thoroughly before trying it. Also, remember that Dapsone masks the dh so if you are on it then you will have no way to know if you are getting glutened or cross contaminated. Many here have tried Dapsone & had other rashes result from the Dapsone or other side effects that made them have to quit it. Some on here have had good results with Dapsone. It can affect your liver so make sure you get liver panels before beginning Dapsone & also during treatment. Be your own health advocate. Doctors love to prescribe pills as the magic solution but they don't always know what other considerations are or precautions to take before or during the time you are taking those pills.
Gluten free Dec. 2011
Soy free Dec. 2011
Hubs self diagnosed dh March 30, 2012
Hubs gluten free March 30, 2012
#11
Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:40 AM
If the DH is bad it may take months/years to go away, even with a strict diet, but it will get better after a few weeks or months, presumably.
I am a little surprised you've had a problem with infection, of scores of lesions I've had none have been infected, but that just shows the variation that occurs.
Eating out will always present a huge problem, because you put a lot of trust in people you don't know to look out for your interests. Personally I don't trust any sauces, etc. even in places that claim to have gluten free meals/menus.
It can take a while (months, years) to learn what a real gluten free diet is, and which risks are worth taking. People vary somewhat in their level of sensitivity, and you will learn how sensitive Grace is over time, mostly through mistakes.
I believe that most people can conquer DH without medication, but with Grace's autism this might not be realistic.
#12
Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:11 AM
Like itchy, of scores (more like hundreds) of lesions, I've not had any become infected. We have, on this forum, surmised that a big reason for that is because there are so many antibodies in our skin that infection doesn't stand much of a chance.
Gluten free Dec. 2011
Soy free Dec. 2011
Hubs self diagnosed dh March 30, 2012
Hubs gluten free March 30, 2012
#13
Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:53 AM
I've had a patch on my leg for nearly 6 months now. I think some spots take time, a lot of time. I also talked to a new dermatologist today and he recommended the drug Dapsone, I still need to look into it more but he seemed to think it would help clear things up?
I started Dapsone after researching and asking my PCP to prescribe it. She took blood test after 4 days and everything was ok. I am glad I started it. Having great results!
Misdiagnosed DH symptoms for 30 years in the form of blisters on shoulders, scalp, sole of foot and lower back.
Type II Diabetes 1995 / Fatty liver biopsy 2001
Diagnosed with NH Lymphoma in 2007 metastasized to bones & Stage IV by 2008 - Chemotherapy in 2008
Breakout of rash from scalp to sole of feet. February 28, 2012
Iron deficiency anemia - July of 2012 / Osteoarthritis from shoulders down diagnosis. September 2012
2012 Rash was diagnosed as Eczema, Grover's Disease, Folliculitis per biopsies of the lesions. September 2012
PCP prescribed Dapsone and Gluten-Free diet on October 20, 2012 ~ Diagnosis of Celiac/Dermatitis Herpetiformis
Fifth Dermatologist seen noted DH on my chart per relief from Dapsone and diet. February 18, 2013
~Lyn~
#14
Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:17 AM
2008- AntiGliadin IGA/IGg~ Negative,TTG IGA/IGg~ Weak Positive, Endomysial Antibody~ Positive, IGA Deficient.
no biopsy (insurance denied)
6/2010- Enterolab Gene Test:
HLA-DQB1 Allele 1 0302
HLA-DQB1 Allele 2 0302
HLADQ 3,3 (subtype 8,8)
7/2010- 100% Gluten Free
8/2010- DH
10/2010-Hypothyroid dx-> 12/2010 Hashimoto's dx + 1/11- Graves dx :(
#15
Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:14 PM
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