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Girlfriend Making Me Sick And Dont Know Why


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#1 deals88

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 06:29 PM

Hey so just spent today and yesterday really glut-end after making it a whole 5 days (longest since it began 55 days ago). Ive changed my whole life so im beyond careful and have finally solved all the CC issues. So my Girlfriend comes over im already scared because every time Ive seen her this month i get sick and its def a glut-end reaction usual symptoms stomach pain, bloating and then the on rush of tiredness. They were much stronger this time as well.

Ive searched rigorously to find out if all her make up is gluten free, she no longer wears lip stuff just Vaseline. Ive emailed MAC make up to see if her powder and foundation are gluten free. The thing is she completely took off all her make up and showered etc and all through today it felt like it was getting worst. The all situation is causing a strain on our relationship either were fighting because shes upset she makes me sick or im blaming her for it when frustrated.

So has anyone exp with this also i should note she brushes her teeth after every meal and before she ever kisses me. Should i be aware of any other items such as: All make up, hairspray, hair products, perfume, tanning stuff, nail polish etc. I actually cant see her again till ive sorted something its too much. Any info will be appreciated thx
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:18 PM

My first thought is - do you go out to eat together? Could it be cross-contamination from dining out? Or any food that you eat only when you are with her?

Second - has it happened every time you've seen her? That would indicate something she uses every day could contain gluten. Shampoo, conditioner, bath gel (haven't seen gluten in soap, but have in gels), lotions (body, hand, face), hair products and make-up (nail polish is gluten-free). Is all her showering/teeth brushing happening at her home? If so, maybe wash her hands and brush her teeth when she gets to your house. In my family we all wash our hands when we come home - we might be paranoid, but I'm hyper sensitive so the whole family would rather not risk it - was originally one of my kids idea when he was worried about bringing gluten home from school desks/computer keyboards, etc. on his hands.

Third - do you use any personal care items on the days you are going to see her that you don't use on other days?

Lastly, there is a chance you are reacting to something that you haven't found in your own food or personal care supply. I can't remember specifics, but do clearly remembering want to kick myself when I'd find yet another item with gluten that I was certain I had verified as gluten-free.

I understand how frustrating it can be to track down the last pesky sources of gluten. If you can get a list of her personal care products and post it - perhaps some people on the board can help shorten your research time.
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Current tally from me, three kids and two grands: 4 diagnosed with Celiac Disease, 2 NCGS

Get PROPERLY tested BEFORE REMOVING GLUTEN.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:58 PM

My first thought is - do you go out to eat together? Could it be cross-contamination from dining out? Or any food that you eat only when you are with her?

Second - has it happened every time you've seen her? That would indicate something she uses every day could contain gluten. Shampoo, conditioner, bath gel (haven't seen gluten in soap, but have in gels), lotions (body, hand, face), hair products and make-up (nail polish is gluten-free). Is all her showering/teeth brushing happening at her home? If so, maybe wash her hands and brush her teeth when she gets to your house. In my family we all wash our hands when we come home - we might be paranoid, but I'm hyper sensitive so the whole family would rather not risk it - was originally one of my kids idea when he was worried about bringing gluten home from school desks/computer keyboards, etc. on his hands.

Third - do you use any personal care items on the days you are going to see her that you don't use on other days?

Lastly, there is a chance you are reacting to something that you haven't found in your own food or personal care supply. I can't remember specifics, but do clearly remembering want to kick myself when I'd find yet another item with gluten that I was certain I had verified as gluten-free.



I understand how frustrating it can be to track down the last pesky sources of gluten. If you can get a list of her personal care products and post it - perhaps some people on the board can help shorten your research time.


Hey thx for taking time to answer. No we dont go out for dinner anymore till ive sorted all this. I eat the same food every day and the same portions everything's weighted etc this is for my gym training. Its 100 percent not me since i keep getting a string of good days till i see her and yes its every time i see her.

I make her brush her teeth here and wash her hands once she gets in and i dont think its paranoid at all i wash my hands at least 18 times a day and never put them in my mouth. All the same care products my day basically doesn't change in routine. No new food or products.

I get this weird sense its something in her hair buts its really just a feeling. I thing i have a list were wud be the best place to post it? thx again
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:09 PM

Hair makes sense to me. I tend to go with those "weird senses" myself - I get them, my kids get them, trust them until you've proved them wrong.

You could add a list to suspect products on this thread or start a new thread with just the list - up to you.

I think you said you've done this already, but I find an email to manufacturer is the best way to determine gluten content. I usually ask if there is gluten used in the manufacturing facility as well as an ingredient. They don't always respond, but when they do it is comforting to have it in writing - added benefit is you can share the results.
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Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years

3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive

10/25/13 - MCAD

Health history since celiac diagnosis became too long -- moved to the "about me" section of my profile

My children and I all have multiple copies of the genes for Celiac Disease, along with large variety of symptoms/resolution gluten-free

Current tally from me, three kids and two grands: 4 diagnosed with Celiac Disease, 2 NCGS

Get PROPERLY tested BEFORE REMOVING GLUTEN.

ALWAYS independently research health related information found on internet forums/blogs.

"LTES" a Gem :)


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 04:40 AM

Some hair sprays contain wheat.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:22 AM

Maybe washing face as well as hands?
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:27 PM

the toothpaste?
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:36 PM

Where does she work? Maybe there is something on her clothes, or maybe it's her laundry detergent.
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Nightshades now seem to bother me too.

 

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:59 PM

Hey all thx for all your reply's im just bout to get a large list from her for everything she uses which ofc has caused more aruging but it has to be done il post it here when i got it all and im also going to email all the companies for every product.
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:10 PM

So heres the List:

SHAMPOO DOVE HAIR THERAPY INTENSIVE REPAIR (concerned about this going to phone directly)

SHOWER GEL - Radox Moisture Shower Therapy with chamomile and jojoba oil (Chamomile seems to have wheat in other products going to email radox next)

Hair serum - Mess head hair Therapy Shine Serum (Already emailed this today)

Toothpaste - Aquafresh (Think these are all fine?)

Laudrey Detergent - Aerial Active Lift Gel ( concerned about this)

Body spray - dove pomegranate and lemon verbena

LOTIONS - Palmers Coco Butter!! I see one of the Ingredients is TOCOPHERLY ACETATE which is AKA Vitamin E and just read this from following web page http://glutenfreern....wheat-germ-oil/


Ok so all is left is the make up she wears which seems like the hardest part to figure out.

EYES - Rimmel Kohl number 6 jet black (EYE pencil for those to arent women :))
NYC NEW YORK COLOUR SKY RISE , EYE shadow BEAUTY UK EYE SHADOW COLLECTION

Face MAC MAKE UP MINERALISED SKIN FINISH NATURAL, MAC STUDIO FIX N35 (FOUNDATION)

NO lip stuff just Vaseline

Fake Tan - ST.MORIS

Eye brows - MAC MAKE UP EYEBROW CRAYON PENCIL SPIKED COLOR

BLUSH MAC MAKE UP STYLE POWDER BLUSH


So that's them all long nite ahead of googling. I would appreciate anyone who can eliminate a product it would be really helpful. Thx
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:10 PM

below is a list of chemicals that would inditace gluten if anyone doesnt already know them
i found them on one of the forum pages its not my research.

Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Flour
Cyclodextrin
Dextrin
Dextrin Palmitate
Hydrolyzed Malt Extract
Hydrolyzed Oat Flour
Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein
Hydrolyzed Wheat Flour
Hydrolyzed Wheat Gluten
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein/PVP Crosspolymer
Hydrolyzed Wheat Starch
Secale Cereale (Rye) Seed Flour
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Gluten
Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Starch
Wheat Amino Acids
Wheat Germ Glycerides
Wheat Germamidopropalkonium Chloride
Wheat Protein
Wheatgermamidopropyl Ethyldimonium Ethosulfate
Yeast Extract
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:11 PM

Forgot to add the paragraph with the link:


Wheat germ oil is often found in beauty products and may be labeled as tocopherol (vitamin E).
Although the amount of wheat germ oil found in tocopheral may be low,
it is important to always contact the manufacture to insure their vitamin E is derived from a different source.
If the manufacture does not know where their tocopherol is derived from we recommend finding an alternative beauty product.
Remember any amount of gluten is too much!

Just emailed the company hopefully get some answers.
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 04:35 AM

I have had this problem with my husband. Good luck getting through it. It can certainly cause problems with the relationship. Since my son also has celiac disease, my husband finally got tested a few years after our diagnoses. He found out that he had it too and things got better when he was also gluten free. I think it must have been that the tooth brushing was insignificant, since he had already gone gluten free in our home, and he didn't change other products as they were already gluten free.
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:00 AM

Thx Dilett, i was thinking this and thought maybe a mouthwash would help aswell. I just dont know anymore, it would prob be best if she ate nothing gluten the whole day when she sees me not very practical long term though.
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 05:16 AM

Got a reply from the Mess Head company, im sure he meant from and not form :) Looks like he took a second to do this suppose this should be crossed off then?

Hi Chris



Mess Head Hair Therapy Shine Serum is free form Gluten, wheat etc.



Hope this helps



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