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Eggs?
#1
Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:49 AM
Here in the UK you can't get eggs from chickens which are only raised on pasture and other non-grain feed. Hence, we don't have any choice but to eat eggs fed on wheat, corn, soya etc.
I just wondered how other super sensitives find eggs from chickens fed on grain? Do you manage ok with them, or do they cause a reaction?
There doesn't seem to be a definitive conclusion anywhere on whether traces of gluten and grain do get through to eggs or not?
Thanks so much for any knowledge people have on this.
Best wishes, Carolyn
#2
Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:26 PM
Hi all,
Here in the UK you can't get eggs from chickens which are only raised on pasture and other non-grain feed. Hence, we don't have any choice but to eat eggs fed on wheat, corn, soya etc.
I just wondered how other super sensitives find eggs from chickens fed on grain? Do you manage ok with them, or do they cause a reaction?
There doesn't seem to be a definitive conclusion anywhere on whether traces of gluten and grain do get through to eggs or not?
Thanks so much for any knowledge people have on this.
Best wishes, Carolyn
Eating eggs should not be an issues, sensitive or not. There is no gluten in eggs.
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#3
Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:48 PM
There doesn't seem to be a definitive conclusion anywhere on whether traces of gluten and grain do get through to eggs or not?
This issue has been discussed quite a bit on here and you are correct---there is no conclusion.
Some sensitives are going to come on and say Yes!... and some sensitive types, like me, will say Nope!
And someone will trot out the one lone "soy passing through to the egg" study from 2009 we have all seen. (there may even be another study done since that last discussion )
So, you're probably going to get a rehash of this age -old debate with no conclusions. Sorry.
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#4
Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:19 PM
This is quite interesting, although again, sorry if this has been picked up before.
http://celiacdisease...Gluten-Free.htm
Something else I read suggested that when chickens are fed a diet of fish, the eggs can taste slightly of the fish.
Another one of the "who knows" I guess at this point..
Best wishes to all, Carolyn
#5
Posted 04 November 2012 - 02:29 PM
It is fantastically fashionable to keep chickens in the UK now. Not helpful if you live in a flat though. I have considered it, but I think my cat would find an exciting new pastime...
Only other way I can think if you are concerned is to ask at farmers markets or independent food suppliers, or farms/farm shops, depending how urban/rural you are.
- Elimination diet using Atkins, 2003 – excluded wheat, caffeine, quorn. 2005, excluded sesame, alcohol
- Started diagnosis route April 2012, blood tests, endoscopy – said negative, gluten challenge, clearly something very wrong, had to stop after 3 weeks.
- Gluten Free, August 2012, Corn Free, September 2012. Removed most processed gluten free foods.
- Genetic testing, December 2012 – negative – Diagnosis – Non Celiac Gluten Intolerance (NCGI)
- Elimination diet, January 2013 – all of the above plus dairy, legumes, all grains, sugar, additives, white potatoes, soy. Reintroducing sloooowly now. Health improving.
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#6
Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:30 PM
Gluten Free since Dec. 2011
No more Arthritis, Acid Reflux, Acne, Hyperlipidemia, Hypertension, and countless other minor health problems. Also lost 50 lbs. & avoiding future health problems
Added Bananas, Lettuce, Strawberries, Pork, & Goat Milk to my diagnosed Food Allergy list Oct. 2012
Still a long way to go on discovering all my Food Allergies
#7
Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:41 PM
http://thesavvycelia...grain-fed-meat/
“Grain-fed beef is fine. Before protein is absorbed it’s broken down into single amino acids or very short peptide fragments-no longer gluten.” — Tricia Thompson MSRD
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#8
Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:01 PM
From my personal experience with Chickens, eggs & meat are fine the skin is another story. To me that tells me they are also unable to digest Gluten because we both eliminate it through our skin. .
I'm sorry.....We eliminate gluten through our skin?
I have absolutely no idea what this means. Can you please explain this and provide some evidence ?
"Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is. The way we cope with it makes the difference." Virginia Satir
"It isn't for the moment you are struck that you need courage, but for the long uphill climb back to sanity, faith and security." Anne Morrow Lindbergh
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love."
Lao Tzu
"The strongest of all warriors are these two - time and patience." Leo Tolstoy
Misdiagnosed for 25+ years; finally DXed on 11/01/10. I figured it out myself. Double DQ2 genes. This thing tried to kill me. I view Celiac as a fire breathing dragon --and I have run my sword right through his throat.
I. Win. ![]()
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#9
Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:52 PM
From my personal experience with Chickens, eggs & meat are fine the skin is another story. To me that tells me they are also unable to digest Gluten because we both eliminate it through our skin. I have outward symptoms to Wheat by the way.
I thhink if you are going to make this type of statement, you need to present some reputable scientific evidence for it.
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#10
Posted 05 November 2012 - 03:01 AM
I'm sorry.....We eliminate gluten through our skin?
I have absolutely no idea what this means. Can you please explain this and provide some evidence ?
Acne. If you can't digest it, 1 of your organs has to get rid of it. For me it's my skin. Which is why when I eat the skin from Chicken, I have a reaction.... Acne.
Gluten Free since Dec. 2011
No more Arthritis, Acid Reflux, Acne, Hyperlipidemia, Hypertension, and countless other minor health problems. Also lost 50 lbs. & avoiding future health problems
Added Bananas, Lettuce, Strawberries, Pork, & Goat Milk to my diagnosed Food Allergy list Oct. 2012
Still a long way to go on discovering all my Food Allergies
#11
Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:32 AM
Of course, this could all be in my head, and the power of my personality may be affecting my children, but those are my experiences.
I think that I am either a nut case, or much more sensitive than your average super sensitive celiac.
#12
Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:16 AM
Acne. If you can't digest it, 1 of your organs has to get rid of it. For me it's my skin. Which is why when I eat the skin from Chicken, I have a reaction.... Acne.
I use to get eczema. I figured that something was coming out through my skin (maybe gluten) that really irritated my skin.
I have heard the skin called the third lung. It sheds wastes as the lungs do carbon dioxide.
#13
Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:02 AM
Acne. If you can't digest it, 1 of your organs has to get rid of it. For me it's my skin. Which is why when I eat the skin from Chicken, I have a reaction.... Acne.
Once again...if you are going to make these claims, you need some scientific back-up for it. I think you are just playing with us.
The original topic is eggs.
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#14
Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:33 AM
Could be the fat.Acne. If you can't digest it, 1 of your organs has to get rid of it. For me it's my skin. Which is why when I eat the skin from Chicken, I have a reaction.... Acne.
Do you have any references for your statements, or are you inferring them based on your symptoms?
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#15
Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:59 AM
Eggs is one of the very few foods I can eat safely - I purchase them from many grocery stores with no problem. My daughter has chickens - these eggs taste far superior to any I have purchased and they are likely better nutritionallly - but that does not mean the other eggs I puchase have gluten in them.
I am not trying to be disrespectful when I say the following because I live and practice this with many high lectin foods - if you are having any physical reaction to eggs remove them completely for six months and then trial them at six month intervals. You may get them back or you may remain intolerant of them for life - this does not mean they have gluten in them.
-Lisa
Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years
3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive
10/27/09 diagnosed fibromyalgia - supplemented with amino acids - improvement followed by substantial deterioration
maybe one good hour per day for ~17 months
8/10/11 - Elimination Diet for Autoimmune Disease - incredible improvement along with clear reactions to most high lectin foods
only remaining symptom - severe heat intolerance / reaction to heat, humidity and exercise
Tomato, Pepper, Potato, Peanut, Soy, Bean, Pea, Citrus, Pineapple, Avocado, Shellfish, Dairy, Grain, Nut and Seed FREE
3/1/12 - Horrible flare -- same ol' symptoms but worse ~ 7/1/12 - Endo: Active Celiac 3+ years - as gluten-free as humanly possible.
11/15/12 - Improving once again - Almonds back - Eggs gone
12/1/12 - Histamine containing and inducing foods FREE - finally the last piece of the puzzle (I hope) -- the cause of my heat/exercise "allergy"...
...this was one of my earliest symptoms as a child -- the enzyme (DAO) needed to regulate histamine is created in the small intestine.
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