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#16 IrishHeart

 
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

Acne. If you can't digest it, 1 of your organs has to get rid of it. For me it's my skin. Which is why when I eat the skin from Chicken, I have a reaction.... Acne.


I use to get eczema. I figured that something was coming out through my skin (maybe gluten) that really irritated my skin.
I have heard the skin called the third lung. It sheds wastes as the lungs do carbon dioxide.




Gluten proteins cannot somehow "seep out through our skin" nor does it seep into our skin.

The molecules are too big, for starters.
Why just gluten? Why wouldn't every single food protein we eat start oozing out of every pore?
Why wouldn't we soak up everything we touch, like giant sponges?

Because it is impossible.

If you understood the digestive process, you would know this is not possible. Proteins are broken down into amino acids...oh, why am I bothering with a lesson in anatomy? Suffice to say..."it cannot happen"

And I still do not see how it answers the OP's questions about eggs.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:15 PM

Gluten proteins cannot somehow "seep out through our skin" nor does it seep into our skin.

The molecules are too big, for starters.
Why just gluten? Why wouldn't every single food protein we eat start oozing out of every pore?
Why wouldn't we soak up everything we touch, like giant sponges?

Because it is impossible.

If you understood the digestive process, you would know this is not possible. Proteins are broken down into amino acids...oh, why am I bothering with a lesson in anatomy? Suffice to say..."it cannot happen"

And I still do not see how it answers the OP's questions about eggs.


http://www.buzzle.co...y-symptoms.html

Your refering to how the digestive system is suppose to work, not how works when trying to get rid of Toxins (in this case Gluten).

Ps So food allergies only affect humans not animals?
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:32 PM

http://www.buzzle.co...y-symptoms.html

Your refering to how the digestive system is suppose to work, not how works when trying to get rid of Toxins (in this case Gluten).

Ps So food allergies only affect humans not animals?



You were asked to provide a legitimate/reputable back-up for your claims. Please refer to rule #5. Furthermore, human acne and a "theory" of "toxins" and other particles leeching thru human skin is off-topic.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:59 PM

http://www.buzzle.co...y-symptoms.html

Your refering to how the digestive system is suppose to work, not how works when trying to get rid of Toxins (in this case Gluten).

Ps So food allergies only affect humans not animals?


I have so many possible replies for you that I do not know which one to begin with, but here goes:

First of all, Celiac Disease---is not a food allergy. Please, learn that concept first.

Secondly, you are providing a buzzle article (which is someone's opinion) , not a Pub Med or scientific journal article. Here is the author's BIO:


Marlene Alphonse

Am a graduate in English Literature. Also hold a diploma degree in Translation Techniques.

Interests and Hobbies:
Reading and listening to music are my favorite ways to beat stress. Writing gives me a divine pleasure and allows me to scale new heights in this beautiful world of creativity and imagination.


I am not going to comment on her lack of complete sentences. She is an Engish Lit grad?


This thread was about EGGS.

You are so far off topic now.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

I have so many possible replies for you that I do not know which one to begin with, but here goes:

First of all, Celiac Disease---is not a food allergy. Please, learn that concept first.

Secondly, you are providing a buzzle article (which is someone's opinion) , not a Pub Med or scientific journal article. Here is the author's BIO:


Marlene Alphonse

Am a graduate in English Literature. Also hold a diploma degree in Translation Techniques.

Interests and Hobbies:
Reading and listening to music are my favorite ways to beat stress. Writing gives me a divine pleasure and allows me to scale new heights in this beautiful world of creativity and imagination.


I am not going to comment on her lack of complete sentences. She is an Engish Lit grad?


This thread was about EGGS.

You are so far off topic now.


1st, I don't have "celiac Disease" and this is not in the "Celiac Disease" forum, it's in the "sensitivity" forum. I am allergic to Gluten. Proven through blood tests ordered by my Doctor while on a Gluten Free Diet to confirm Allergy (after the simple blood test was done, I had no need to check for "Celiac Disease"). That makes Gluten a Toxin/Food Allergy. That's the reason for that link.

2nd, I was explaining that Gluten is not in Eggs (or meat) and how I know that. I have obvious reactions to Gluten (especially Wheat).
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

1st, I don't have "celiac Disease" and this is not in the "Celiac Disease" forum, it's in the "sensitivity" forum. I am allergic to Gluten. Proven through blood tests ordered by my Doctor while on a Gluten Free Diet to confirm Allergy (after the simple blood test was done, I had no need to check for "Celiac Disease"). That makes Gluten a Toxin/Food Allergy. That's the reason for that link.

2nd, I was explaining that Gluten is not in Eggs (or meat) and how I know that. I have obvious reactions to Gluten (especially Wheat).


Hi Scott and Welcome to you!

Generally Celiac is tested through a blood test specific for Celiac Disease, an Endoscopy Exam and Biopsy and a positive dietary response can be diagnostic as well.

Can you share your positive blood tests for your gluten allergy? Many times some members can interpret them for you. Believe it or not, some people here know more about gluten, gluten allergies and Celiac Disease than some doctors. :rolleyes:

Do you feel better when you don't eat gluten? And when you do, do you you break out in a rash or acne? Maybe that's what you mean by gluten/toxins exiting out of your skin.

I'm glad you have joined us. :)Hope to hear back from you.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

Hi Scott and Welcome to you!

Generally Celiac is tested through a blood test specific for Celiac Disease, an Endoscopy Exam and Biopsy and a positive dietary response can be diagnostic as well.

Can you share your positive blood tests for your gluten allergy? Many times some members can interpret them for you. Believe it or not, some people here know more about gluten, gluten allergies and Celiac Disease than some doctors. :rolleyes:

Do you feel better when you don't eat gluten? And when you do, do you you break out in a rash or acne? Maybe that's what you mean by gluten/toxins exiting out of your skin.

I'm glad you have joined us. :)Hope to hear back from you.


Hi and thank you.

I actually work for a Lab. I know how they diagnose Celiac Disease, I also know even after a positive scope & biopsy Dr's still won't recommend a Gluten Free Diet to their patient. They just don't understand & there is not much "mainstream" research done on Gluten.

I also know another test for Celiac. HLA Typing for Celiac Disease. Problem with that test is they only look for the DQ-2 & DQ-8. However, the DQ-1 & the DQ-3 will tell you if you are allergic to Gluten. Dr's don't look @ them. Again they don't understand.

My testing was a Wheat IgG, Barley IgG, & Rye IgG. Even if you are Gluten Free you still have antibodies and will get a number greater than 2 if you are allergic. My wife was tested for a Milk IgG (which she was diagnosed as Lactose Intolerant) and come to find out she is allergic to Milk, not "intolerant". Her & my 2 kids also tested positive for a Gluten Allergy by the way.

I have yet to see a Dr order Food IgG's on anybody. IgG's check for a Delayed Response to a allergen. I think everybody knows the body can have a instant response & delayed response to food, medication, insect bites, ect... Yet they won't order the IgG's. These tests are also sent out to a Reference Lab to be tested. They same Lab all there send out tests go to, so you know they are accurate.
Even some of the leading Gluten Researches don't talk about these tests ( Dr Mark Hyman, Dr Osborne, & Dr Alessio Fasano) it's crazy.

I've done lots of research (and testing) to try and understand Gluten and why so many people have a "issue" with it ( and a lot that don't know it).
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Added Bananas, Lettuce, Strawberries, Pork, & Goat Milk to my diagnosed Food Allergy list Oct. 2012

Still a long way to go on discovering all my Food Allergies

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

Hi Scott and Welcome to you!

Generally Celiac is tested through a blood test specific for Celiac Disease, an Endoscopy Exam and Biopsy and a positive dietary response can be diagnostic as well.

Can you share your positive blood tests for your gluten allergy? Many times some members can interpret them for you. Believe it or not, some people here know more about gluten, gluten allergies and Celiac Disease than some doctors. :rolleyes:

Do you feel better when you don't eat gluten? And when you do, do you you break out in a rash or acne? Maybe that's what you mean by gluten/toxins exiting out of your skin.

I'm glad you have joined us. :)Hope to hear back from you.


About how I feel not eating Gluten? Amazing. No more Acne (unless Glutenized), Arthritis, Acid Reflux, Sensitive teeth/gums, SOB, eczema, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, too many things to list.

The greatest thing happened a few months ago. I played 4 softball games in 2 days for the 1st time in 16 years & I was not even sore a little bit. I could not believe it. Any older athelete will understand what I'm saying. And I've only been Gluten Free for 11 months.

About a month ago I had more allergy tests done. I'm also allergic to Bananas, Strawberries, Pork, Lettuce, Goat Milk (not Cow Milk), and had a high number for Yeast (did not say allergy). I'm battling a chronic Yeast infection (on the skin) so I'm guessing thats why. It's not D.H.. So I need more allergy testing to find out why Yeast is out of control. Something's off balance. The allergy to Bananas & Lettuce was devastating, I ate them everyday since going gluten-free. But I know I have more "hidden" allergies.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

Welcome Scott!

You are correct about the lack of proper testing with regard to IgG's. My allergist only ordered them all AFTER I had already determined many of my food intolerances by strict elimination diet/trial and I was under the care of a top celiac doc whom did order genetic testing on me for DQ1, 2, 3 and 8.

That being said - Celiac Disease, Non-Celiac Gluten Intolerance (NCGI) and Gluten Allergy are often very confusing to those new to the idea that gluten may be causing them problems.

Your knowledge with regard to gluten allergy is invaluable here, but please remember your audience and make your statements clear with regard to Celiac Disease and Gluten Allergy.

Thanks :)
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Health history since celiac diagnosis became too long -- moved to the "about me" section of my profile

My children and I all have multiple copies of the genes for Celiac Disease, along with large variety of symptoms/resolution gluten-free

Current tally from me, three kids and two grands: 4 diagnosed with Celiac Disease, 2 NCGS

Get PROPERLY tested BEFORE REMOVING GLUTEN.

ALWAYS independently research health related information found on internet forums/blogs.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:39 PM

About how I feel not eating Gluten? Amazing. No more Acne (unless Glutenized), Arthritis, Acid Reflux, Sensitive teeth/gums, SOB, eczema, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, too many things to list.

The greatest thing happened a few months ago. I played 4 softball games in 2 days for the 1st time in 16 years & I was not even sore a little bit. I could not believe it. Any older athelete will understand what I'm saying. And I've only been Gluten Free for 11 months.


Fantastic!!! It is amazing feeling to be get back physical abilities that were thought to be long lost. I must say when I read your story it sounds like you may indeed have Celiac Disease ALONG with Gluten Allergy - it is possible. The list of symptoms that you have improving over an eleven month period gluten-free sound very much like you may have both autoimmune and allergy related immune responses to gluten simultaneously.

Regardless of your label, I am very happy to hear you and your health are improving gluten-free.
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Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years

3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive

10/25/13 - MCAD

Health history since celiac diagnosis became too long -- moved to the "about me" section of my profile

My children and I all have multiple copies of the genes for Celiac Disease, along with large variety of symptoms/resolution gluten-free

Current tally from me, three kids and two grands: 4 diagnosed with Celiac Disease, 2 NCGS

Get PROPERLY tested BEFORE REMOVING GLUTEN.

ALWAYS independently research health related information found on internet forums/blogs.

"LTES" a Gem :)


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:40 PM

Hi and thank you.

I actually work for a Lab. I know how they diagnose Celiac Disease, I also know even after a positive scope & biopsy Dr's still won't recommend a Gluten Free Diet to their patient. They just don't understand & there is not much "mainstream" research done on Gluten.

I also know another test for Celiac. HLA Typing for Celiac Disease. Problem with that test is they only look for the DQ-2 & DQ-8. However, the DQ-1 & the DQ-3 will tell you if you are allergic to Gluten. Dr's don't look @ them. Again they don't understand.

My testing was a Wheat IgG, Barley IgG, & Rye IgG. Even if you are Gluten Free you still have antibodies and will get a number greater than 2 if you are allergic. My wife was tested for a Milk IgG (which she was diagnosed as Lactose Intolerant) and come to find out she is allergic to Milk, not "intolerant". Her & my 2 kids also tested positive for a Gluten Allergy by the way.

I have yet to see a Dr order Food IgG's on anybody. IgG's check for a Delayed Response to a allergen. I think everybody knows the body can have a instant response & delayed response to food, medication, insect bites, ect... Yet they won't order the IgG's. These tests are also sent out to a Reference Lab to be tested. They same Lab all there send out tests go to, so you know they are accurate.
Even some of the leading Gluten Researches don't talk about these tests ( Dr Mark Hyman, Dr Osborne, & Dr Alessio Fasano) it's crazy.

I've done lots of research (and testing) to try and understand Gluten and why so many people have a "issue" with it ( and a lot that don't know it).


Ahhh...
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

Is this thread not about Eggs?

It would (the current discussion) serve more people regarding a gluten allergy, in a new thread, than hidden in an "Egg" thread. IMHO
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:11 AM

Is this thread not about Eggs?

It would (the current discussion) serve more people regarding a gluten allergy, in a new thread, than hidden in an "Egg" thread. IMHO


Again, I'm not off topic. I was called out for not being "knowledgable" about Celiac/Gluten/Digestion. I just gave a little background supporting how I know Eggs do not contain Gluten & why they don't.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:27 AM

Welcome Scott!

You are correct about the lack of proper testing with regard to IgG's. My allergist only ordered them all AFTER I had already determined many of my food intolerances by strict elimination diet/trial and I was under the care of a top celiac doc whom did order genetic testing on me for DQ1, 2, 3 and 8.

That being said - Celiac Disease, Non-Celiac Gluten Intolerance (NCGI) and Gluten Allergy are often very confusing to those new to the idea that gluten may be causing them problems.

Your knowledge with regard to gluten allergy is invaluable here, but please remember your audience and make your statements clear with regard to Celiac Disease and Gluten Allergy.

Thanks :)


Thank you & I will try my best.
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Added Bananas, Lettuce, Strawberries, Pork, & Goat Milk to my diagnosed Food Allergy list Oct. 2012

Still a long way to go on discovering all my Food Allergies

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:05 AM

Again, I'm not off topic. I was called out for not being "knowledgable" about Celiac/Gluten/Digestion. I just gave a little background supporting how I know Eggs do not contain Gluten & why they don't.



Actually, this is incorrect.
Some of us took issue with your original assertion that "gluten in chicken skin could cause a reaction."

From my personal experience with Chickens, eggs & meat are fine the skin is another story. To me that tells me they are also unable to digest Gluten because we both eliminate it through our skin. I have outward symptoms to Wheat by the way.


So, Chickens are unable to digest gluten and we both eliminate gluten through our skin?---THIS is what we questioned.

Acne. If you can't digest it, 1 of your organs has to get rid of it. For me it's my skin. Which is why when I eat the skin from Chicken, I have a reaction.... Acne.


This is also not about eggs, it's about chicken skin and that you get skin eruptions from eating chicken skin --which you believe contains undigested gluten . Again, we do not think it is because you are eating gluten-skinned chicken as we do not see how it is possible..

1st, I don't have "celiac Disease" and this is not in the "Celiac Disease" forum, it's in the "sensitivity" forum. I am allergic to Gluten. Proven through blood tests ordered by my Doctor while on a Gluten Free Diet to confirm Allergy (after the simple blood test was done, I had no need to check for "Celiac Disease"). That makes Gluten a Toxin/Food Allergy. That's the reason for that link.
2nd, I was explaining that Gluten is not in Eggs (or meat) and how I know that. I have obvious reactions to Gluten (especially Wheat).


This is the Celiac.com forum. The super sensitive section is for celiacs who are especially sensitive to gluten and incur symptoms even at the lowest levels of cc.

Allergies and Celiac disease are 2 different mechanisms.

But the point is, none of us think gluten comes out through the chicken's skin because they cannot digest it---and we asked for any evidence this could happen because we do not wish to alarm newly diagnosed celiacs that they could be glutened from chicken skin.

Do you see what we mean now?
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