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How Long Does "gluten" Linger On Surfaces? This Is Overwhelming..

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#1 ellyy

 
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

If a guest enters your home that recently eaten gluten, will this stay on their hands and get all over your doors, cabinets, floors, bed, walls, phone, lights, makeup, car keys, car seats, doors, etc??? What about a dog trailing in the house after eating food saturated in gluten? What if the dog lays on your bed or carpet or tile after eating and her mouth touches it, does that linger for days? If I touch it and then eat will I become glutened? Where is truly gluten free dog availiable? Are all frozen vegetables gluten free? If it doesn't say gluten free on a food item is it just not or is the manufacturer just lazy? Will lysol or air sanitizer or disinfectant spray destroy it (the gluten)? can gluten become airborn? does it stay in your hair... How can I tell if my shampoo/conditioner is gluten free? Do I have to write everyone?? will someone provide me with a sample paragraph that sounds professional and convincing enough to get an honest answer of whether the product contains gluten in it or not and also envokes enough guilt or fear for an employee to fully investigate (i.e: i'm going to die if I use this product and it has gluten). Does febreeze have gluten? what medications?? I've been sick for 5 years and this whole time I've attempted a "gluten-free diet" for the most part with LOTS of cheating (which always ends in misery that wont end for days).. I've gone months without eating it and still feel ill, eliminating other food groups and seeing doctors... I don't wash my hands that often cuz I'm depressed and disgusting... if anyone feels like answering all these questions I'll give you money when I'm rich. thanks
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#2 shadowicewolf

 
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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:37 PM

Gluten is not like a bacteria, it will remain. So there are no things that could "kill" it sort to speak. So things like the keys, the dog (there are gluten free foods), the door handle, etc will still have it on them. Airborn gluten is only an issue if flour is flying, so places like a bakery are a no no.

Some foods are obviously gluten free (sugar is an example). Others if they are in a place where wheat and whatnot might be occuring, "should" have an allergen (wheat) label. Companies like Kraft and another that starts with an U... have a good labeling policy.

Handwashing is always reccomended before meals. If you, say, let the dog lick your hand after it ate, just wash and that'll keep ya from getting glutened (though i do not reccommend the face kisses).

Fabreeze? I can't use the stuff due to other issues, but i wouldn't think that it would have it in it.

You need to contact the manufacturer for medicine related questions. They change all the time.

As for hair stuff, i use an organic all natural one.

You cannot cheat on this diet :( Its a no go.

Did you replace such things as wooden stuff (spoons), plastic stuff (tupperwere), caulenders, scratched pans, etc? Cross contamination is a big deal.

Others can help yeah with the paragraph. I'm too tired at the moment to think of anything good. Also, please watch the language, there's no need for the F bomb here i assure you.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:11 AM

Anyone I know --even those scary gluten eaters in my life! ---washes their hands frequently enough that they do not "spread gluten around like the plague."

Gluten does not always stick onto door handles, keys and the dog just because someone who eats wheat touches these things in your home.

There is a need to be cautious and HUGE need to be reasonable and realistic.

If gluten is causing you to be depressed, then you will not feel better anytime soon if you continue to cheat.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

How cautious you have to be depends on how sensitive you are. You will make yourself crazy worrying about all those things before you even know if you need to worry about those things. Stop cheating on the diet and wash your hands before you eat and see what happens. I am extremely sensitive, and even I noticed a big improvement just doing that.

Gluten free for pet foods hasn't been defined officially and it can mean no gluten is added, but it can still contain gluten grains.

Some spray won't get rid of gluten. It needs to be physically removed by washing and rinsing. It shouldn't get airborne on its own. Flour can get airborne. All you need to do about things like that is to wash your hands before you prepare and eat food. That is something that you should be doing anyway for sanitation reasons.

Frozen foods should be gluten free, but fresh produce would be better.

You aren't disgusting. The depression from glutening can be really debilitating.

Lever Brothers which make Dove and Suave products list the sources of their ingredients. For instance, if the hydrolysed protein is from wheat or soy, it will say so. I use their products.

Now you just have to get rich so that you can give me lots of money.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:58 AM

There are truly gluten-free dog foods. You have to read the ingredients, because what the pet food companies call gluten-free isn't the same as what it means for humans. Look for the foods that do not contain wheat, barley, or rye. If you go for grain-free dog food, you eliminate the possibility of the evil three. Pure Vita, Nature's Variety Instinct, Orijen, Acana, Natural Balance, Merrick, Avoderm, and others have grain-free or rice as the only grain varieties. Ask your pet store to show you limited ingredient or grain-free foods. Both of my dogs are grain-free and I love never having to worry about sloppy puppy kisses or drool.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:56 PM

There are truly gluten-free dog foods. You have to read the ingredients, because what the pet food companies call gluten-free isn't the same as what it means for humans. Look for the foods that do not contain wheat, barley, or rye. If you go for grain-free dog food, you eliminate the possibility of the evil three. Pure Vita, Nature's Variety Instinct, Orijen, Acana, Natural Balance, Merrick, Avoderm, and others have grain-free or rice as the only grain varieties. Ask your pet store to show you limited ingredient or grain-free foods. Both of my dogs are grain-free and I love never having to worry about sloppy puppy kisses or drool.


Did you notice whether your dogs felt any better on a grain-free diet? Or is there no difference to them?
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:52 PM

Did you notice whether your dogs felt any better on a grain-free diet? Or is there no difference to them?


I feed my little girl Taste of the Wild Grain free dry in the Venison and Bison form along with a homemade mix of boiled chicken thighs and mixed veggies that I grind up in my food processor. She thrives on it and seems to do better than when I was mixing canned dog food with the dry. Cheaper and I know what is in it. Some times I will also fry up ground beef and the veggies and pile some of it on mashed potatoes for myself before grinding her portion. I usually make enough to last her for about 3 or 4 days at a time.
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celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007

Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15

Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom


Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:59 AM

Did you notice whether your dogs felt any better on a grain-free diet? Or is there no difference to them?


My first has been eating grain-free since he was 9 weeks old. He's 3 years now. His coat is shiny and sleek, never has digestive issues, has never been sick, has perfect teeth. When he gets hold of his cousin dog's food (some wheat- and corn-filled brand), he pukes and gets the runs. Same if someone at the pet store slips him a biscuit. That's when I notice the difference.

My second came to me as a young adult a year and a half ago. He has pale, slimy poops, some runny. Within a week of being grain-free, his poops were perfect. He gets the runs if he gets into the cousin's food.

Raven, I've been experimenting with my own mixtures, and I've been happy with the results, too. One especially loves fish and bitter greens. The other seemed to know that the turkey I made the other day was partially for him. He circled my feet like a shark while I chopped up the cooked offal and meat. I mix that with veggies. I love it when they lick their chops in anticipation.
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Migraines, ataxia, peripheral neuropathy, anxiety, paranoia, joint pain, vivid nightmares, exhaustion & lethargy, brain fog, bloat, GI issues--all gone or significantly reduced since dietary changes were made

Gluten-free (Nov. 2008), dairy-free (June 2009), soy-free (Aug. 2009), all-grains-and-grasses-but-rice-free (Nov. 2011); double HLA-DQ7

"'Always remember, Bilbo, when your heart wants lifting, think of pleasant things.' 'Eggs, bacon, a good full pipe, my garden at twilight....'" (The Hobbit, animated movie, 1977)

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

My toy poodle cannot eat dog food due to the fact it makes her have siezures. She is on a "people food" diet. So boild chiken and rice, meat with veggie, etc. She loves those veggies :)
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:24 PM

My toy poodle cannot eat dog food due to the fact it makes her have siezures. She is on a "people food" diet. So boild chiken and rice, meat with veggie, etc. She loves those veggies :)


Maggie loves her veggies too. There was one day when I didn't realize I had run out of her mixed veggies when I cooked her food. She acted like I hadn't fed her at all just stood by her bowl looking at me then shoved it over to my feet with her nose. I make sure I don't run out of those veggies now.
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"I will try again tommorrow" (Mary Anne Radmacher)


celiac 49 years - Misdiagnosed for 45
Blood tested and repeatedly negative
Diagnosed by Allergist with elimination diet and diagnosis confirmed by GI in 2002
Misdiagnoses for 15 years were IBS-D, ataxia, migraines, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia, parathesias, arthritis, livedo reticularis, hairloss, premature menopause, osteoporosis, kidney damage, diverticulosis, prediabetes and ulcers, dermatitis herpeformis
All bold resoved or went into remission with proper diagnosis of Celiac November 2002
Some residual nerve damage remains as of 2006- this has continued to resolve after eliminating soy in 2007

Mother died of celiac related cancer at 56
Twin brother died as a result of autoimmune liver destruction at age 15

Children 2 with Ulcers, GERD, Depression, , 1 with DH, 1 with severe growth stunting (male adult 5 feet)both finally diagnosed Celiac through blood testing and 1 with endo 6 months after Mom


Positive to Soy and Casien also Aug 2007

Gluten Sensitivity Gene Test Aug 2007
HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0303

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,3 (Subtype 9,9)

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

Maggie loves her veggies too. There was one day when I didn't realize I had run out of her mixed veggies when I cooked her food. She acted like I hadn't fed her at all just stood by her bowl looking at me then shoved it over to my feet with her nose. I make sure I don't run out of those veggies now.

That is so cute:)
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

To answer your title question, gluten is water souble.That is how it is separated from the grain. Therefore, if you wash and rinse well enough, there should be NO gluten remaining on ANY surface.
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