Get email alerts Get Celiac.com E-mail Alerts  




Celiac.com Sponsor:
Celiac.com Sponsor:




Ads by Google:






   Get email alerts  Subscribe to FREE Celiac.com email alerts

Severe Glutening From Corn!
0

13 posts in this topic

I've been on a grain-free diet for about two years now, which has done wonders for my health. I know from research that all grains have gluten, and people with severe gluten sensitivities/celiac should avoid all of them... And I've found that rice and corn and even quinoa effect me, but I didn't think it was *as bad* as wheat gluten. That is until this week, when I found out just how sensitive I am to corn! Holy moly!

I went out to eat at a local place that has a paleo bowl. I've eaten there a few times and been fine. This last time I noticed half way through eating my food, that there were a couple corn kernels that had snuck in. (You all know that sinking feeling when you realize you might have eaten something you shouldn't? yep, it's the stuff of nightmares...)

Now, I've eaten corn derivatives on accident before, that stuff just sneaks in everywhere, but it didn't effect me like the straight-up corn did.

I didn't expect my reaction to be that severe to it, just some gas, brain fog, maybe a bit of joint inflammation, "the usual".

About 5 hours after eating the corn in my lunch, I had some *severe* brain fog hit. So bad I could have been drooling on myself and not noticed.

Then the next day, I had my pattern reaction that I get to wheat gluten, increased inflammation, that "hit by a bus" feeling, moody, barely able to get out of bed... etc. Five days later, I still don't feel recovered.

Just last night I had my knee go out while I was sitting down. That's when I know it's bad.

So I'm on some serious healing diet protocol now!

And sure, if corn slipped in my dish, then some hidden wheat product possibly could have too. But the only weird thing I saw was the corn, so I have to assume that was what did it.

This makes me not want to go out to eat EVER again! (Again!) :)

Anyone else react this severely to corn?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Ads by Google:

My reactions to corn and wheat (gluten) are identical; that's why it took me so long to 'see the light'. I would go to a Mexican restaurant and eat no gluten, yet I still got a reaction (ok, cc perhaps). I would eat no corn, still get a reaction (cc??). Pretty hard to go to a Mexican restaurant and get no corn or gluten (I used to order the prawns and rice :P ). This ignorance lasted for years. Once I realized that gluten WAS a problem (it was hard to tell because I could devour pizza without a hint of distress), it was then possible to distinguish corn as an equal problem. Lots of reading and another light was turned on!

And that light was the lectin light. You can read about lectins here:

http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

Lectins are in the outer coating/skins of foods to deter insects - the lectins supposedly coagulate/agglutinate the blood of the insects which kills them - so it makes sense that they would not be on the inside. So I find that I am perfectly able to tolerate highly refined cornstarch, but cannot get close to a corn chip or a tortilla.

Read what Krispin has to say about lectins and let me know if you would like more information.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Um. Yes. I do react that severely. To wheat and corn. And now you have me wondering if my Thanksgiving glutening which crashed me until yesterday (so 2 1/2 weeks) may have been corn...or both corn and gluten cc. I don't know. My response is very very similar to yours. My inflammation led to a pinched nerve in my neck which cut off all the feeling in my right arm. Oy...I hope you recover soon. Coincidentally I started drinking detox tea and that was the day I started feeling better. Probably it was really just the passage of time, but I've continued to drink it.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And that light was the lectin light. You can read about lectins here:

http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

Lectins are in the outer coating/skins of foods to deter insects - the lectins supposedly coagulate/agglutinate the blood of the insects which kills them - so it makes sense that they would not be on the inside. So I find that I am perfectly able to tolerate highly refined cornstarch, but cannot get close to a corn chip or a tortilla.

Read what Krispin has to say about lectins and let me know if you would like more information.

Have you considered the possibility that it was the protein in the corn you where reacting to, not specifically the lectins? If you look at the nutrition info for cornstarch you will notice it has 0 grams of protein, versus regular corn which has 9g protein per 100 grams. Its a known thing that a food allergy is a response to a protein in the food. Have you tried other lectins-heavy foods like legumes?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you considered the possibility that it was the protein in the corn you where reacting to not the lectins? If you look at the nutrition info for cornstarch you will notice it has 0 grams of protein, versus regular corn which has 9g protein per 100 grams. Its a known thing that a food allergy is a response to a protein in the food. Have you tried other lectins-heavy foods like legumes?

Yes, that is true I believe. Lectins are a protein (glycoprotein) and are also present in wheat, etc. That is why lectins are not normally present in cornstarch and why I can eat it, and why I suggested lectins as a possible culprit.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites




Makes little difference to me, Corn is every bit the equal in evil as Wheat, might even be worse!. When I eat Corn it is simply none digestible and I have to wait for the reaction and the painful litres of acid to wash it out. For me all grains are a failure, but Corn is especailly bad news and it's in practically all processed food these days. Rice is OK but still bad enough that I can't heal on it.. I can live on it that's about it. But gluten free products made from other random grains... well I may as well just eat Wheat, sooner or later they have the same effect. As pointed out above grains are not supposed to be digestible they are supposed to be planted in the ground by the poo of whatever ate them. You can smash them up and cook them but in the end they are still only borderline digestible.

Vitamin D levels need to be very high too, that's very important for a lot of reasons, especailly to avoid the condition turning into a dna damage and cancer, I'd aim for 150 on the Vitamin D test. Which means you need to take some serious sun and also probably quite a bit in supplement form.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I cannot eat corn anymore. It gives me migraine headaches, bloating, and gas. Is not as bad as the gluten reaction but my body doesn't like it at all. It's also all gmo at this point, so I guess we really shouldn't eat it anyway!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I found out I was gluten, soy, corn, and beet intolerant last summer. Quite a blow to the diet! My recovery has taken so long that I checked back with the doctor and found I've had candida as well. The symptoms are all so similar between soy, beets, and phosphorus rich foods (common nongluten grains, seeds, most nuts) that I get confused about the cause of a reaction! Now candida too... However, corn is the only one that gives me bronchial drainage and a cough for several hours. Most restaurants use corn products when they try to replace gluten for us! A nice effort, but given that about 50% of us who are gluten free also cannot handle corn, I suggest asking the source of the gluten free product anywhere! It may prevent a reaction!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A nice effort, but given that about 50% of us who are gluten free also cannot handle corn,

Not sure where you got this figure? I haven't seen any reputable research to suggest this.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I react to corn the same way I do gluten. I have become super sensitive corn .

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been off wheat for a few years, I can eat it again now (just done some testing this week) of course I will become allergic to in again quickly if I keep eating it, but it has nil effect at the moment, on the other hand Corn has a huge effect on me at the moment because I've been eating it while off the wheat. imho anything hard to digest with protein in it will give you an allergy sooner or later, the more the protein and the harder it is to digest the larger the allergy will be. If you were to find a grain or nut with low levels of protein you would be fine. Macadamia's cause me the least problem of the common nuts.. not much of a surprise since they have the least protein.

I believe Corn is inherently worse for you than wheat it's just that in the past in western socity our exposure to wheat has been much greater, Asians tend to get allergic to Rice first and foremost.

The more I learn about the old leaky gut the more I see we are just not designed to eat one food for longer than it's natural season per year

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been off wheat for a few years, I can eat it again now (just done some testing this week) of course I will become allergic to in again quickly if I

The more I learn about the old leaky gut the more I see we are just not designed to eat one food for longer than it's natural season per year

Just want to make it clear to future readers - If you have Celiac Disease you are not "cured". You cannot go back to eating wheat when you feel better. This person has an allergy to wheat which is different from Celiac Disease.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I believe Corn is inherently worse for you than wheat it's just that in the past in western socity our exposure to wheat has been much greater, Asians tend to get allergic to Rice first and foremost.

They do? Is there any medical or scientific research on this? I like to read..

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
0

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      104,365
    • Total Posts
      920,552
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Well, I am stressed to the max. I just spent 3 days in the hospital with D and stomach pain, dizziness, chest pain, generally unwell. Then another trip to the ER on top of that. My protein was low and my RBC and hemoglobin dropped below normal in 3 days. Not terribly low, but below normal. I also had metabolic acidosis which still confuses me. I usually eat every 2-3 hours despite it causing pain to keep my energy up and was unable to eat that frequently in the hospital. I usually carry protein with me and had been taking liquid iron which I stopped a few weeks ago because my new endo is not a fan of iron supplements. As soon as I got home from the hospital I started with my protein drinks and blackstrap molasses for iron.  I now have bilateral mild pleural effusions and a nodule on my left lung, which hopefully is nothing, but was not there on a CT back in March. In addition, my left adrenal gland, which also appeared normal in March, is calcified and the report indicates this is most likely due to a previous bleed or infection. My colon appears tortuous (whatever that means) and we are waiting on colon/endo biopsies. I have been gluten-free since March except for cc so expect the biopsies to again be negative.  My primary care is useless. I am in the process of getting a new one I will see on the 7th but need the current one to fill out FMLA paperwork because I both physically and mentally need time to recover. I will have to go off of payroll for 2 weeks but I think I need to. I called the primary's office today to discuss the hospital tests which she does NOT have yet and to ask if we should/could start a low dose of prednisone because my body is attacking itself. My thyroid on ultrasound is also abnormal though my bloodwork thus far is normal. But it hurts on that side. The only reason the ultrasound was ordered is because I asked for it in the first place. The only reason I have started seeing an endocrinologist is because I found one myself. Anyway...I broke down in tears on the phone eith her today and she told me I was having a "manic episode". I have no history of mania. I only recently started taking xanax to help me cope with the stress of being sick. I was not sick until I did this stupid gluten challenge over the winter. My mother was in town and spoke with the doctor on the phone as well who was trying to get my mom to take me to a psych hospital. She also threatened to send the police to check on me. My mother assured her I was in no danger and we hung up the phone in complete shock. Admittedly, I was in tears when I called her and probably sounded like a fucking mess. But I believe I referenced the dropping iron, protein, fluid near lungs, enlarged thyroid and attacked adrenal gland then literally said "my body is attacking itself and I need help" to which she said, "I think you are manic". Lovely. If I was a mess before that phone call it was 10x worse when we hung up.  Anyway, this is the first night it has been extremely difficult to sleep. I admit my thoughts about my odd symptoms keep me up often recently. I mean, who the hell bleeds from or gets an infected adrenal gland?! I am sure it was another time I begged my primary for help. On a side not, the NP at the ER told me the primary should be putting these pieces together and communicating with my other doctors better. He then stated that he used to go to the same practice but left because the practice got too big and like a business. So I got some validation from that chat.  A melatonin or a .25 xanax usually does the trick for me to sleep but I am so disturbed about my interaction today, stressed at my health, stressed that my ex has our son so much because I am always sick (bless him for coming through), stressed that I have to go back to this awful doctor because I will need the FMLA paperwork before I see the new doc on the 7th.  8 months ago, I took a multivitamin when I remembered it and that was it.  End rant. Maybe now that it is off my chest I can finally sleep. 
    • Hi DKH0614, I use aspirin, Pepto Bismol, and peppermint tea or Altoids peppermints.  Pepto Bismol has a soothing effect on the gut.  Pepto Bismol also has aspirin in it.  Peppermint is helpful for relaxing smooth muscle tissue and getting gas out of the stomach. As per KarenG, you may be reacting to dairy.  Dairy has a sugar called lactose in it that some people with celiac have a hard time digesting.  You could try avoiding dairy for a few weeks to see if that helps.  Or try taking lactaid type pills when you eat dairy. It doesn't take very much gluten to cause an immune system reaction.  So it is important to avoid even traces of gluten if possible.  The stuff is hard to avoid sometimes if people around you don't understand how much a small amount of it can affect your body. Let us know if we can help with any  more questions, or if you have concerns we haven't addressed. And welcome to the forum! Also, if you subscribe to the thread (notify me of replies) you'll get an email when people respond to your thread.    
    • After a year and half, if you are eating gluten-free, you shouldn't be having pain from Celiac.  Perhaps you need to find out what is really causing your issues?  Dairy/ lactose is an obvious first place to look.
    • Hi! I am 15 and have been diagnosed with celiac disease for about a year and a half now and I am woundering what do some of y'all use to relive some of the abdominal pains that come along with celiac/gluten allergies?  ( Ibuprofen,  Tylenol, etc.) 
    • Hi Laurabella, Yes, you could have celiac disease!  It is important to keep eating gluten until all testing is completed, including an endoscopy with biopsy samples if the doctor recommends it.  The doctors usually do want the endoscopy.  The biopsy samples of the small intestine lining (4 to 6 samples) are checked for microscopic damage that indicates celiac disease.  Gall bladder problems can happen with celiac disease.  Your pain could also be from intestinal damage in any part of the small intestine. Some things you could try while you are waiting for your tests to be completed are stopping all dairy, and taking peppermint tea for gas in the stomach.  Celiac disease damage makes it hard to digest dairy sugar (lactose) and that can cause bloating and pain.  Constipation and diahrea are also possible fun symptoms. Welcome to the forum!
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Entries

  • Recent Status Updates

  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      61,439
    • Most Online
      1,763

    Newest Member
    DKH0614
    Joined