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#1 josh603

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:01 PM

Hello!,

I am new to this forum and I hope I am posting in the right place. LONG story short, I have had a panic disorder that doctors called PTSD so shoved pills down my throat for years, got to the point where I spent 2 years in bed. Could not even get to my mailbox. 2 years not one step out the door. I found out I have these allergies and I still struggle but I am out again...absolutely amazing! After being told time and time again that a food could not contribute to it by Doctors. I am allergic to gluten, casein, soy, and corn.

I eat hummus every day for the protein, etc...but lately it has been making me very tired. I see people saying they cut out legumes from their diet, I was wondering why they cut them out? Is there evidence that Celiacs can't always stomach legumes?

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:14 PM

No most Celiac, as well as most people, can tolerate them just fine. There are a few people that can't.

Do you have Celiac? Or an allergy to wheat? They are 2 different things. If you are allergic to corn or soy, it it possibly an ingredient in the hummus?

If you are eating a small variety of foods, perhaps you need some vitamins? Have they checked your iron, ferritin, B12 & D? A lack of any of those can make you tired. Have they checked your thyroid?

Just a few things to think about.
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#3 josh603

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:28 PM

No most Celiac, as well as most people, can tolerate them just fine. There are a few people that can't.

Do you have Celiac? Or an allergy to wheat? They are 2 different things. If you are allergic to corn or soy, it it possibly an ingredient in the hummus?

If you are eating a small variety of foods, perhaps you need some vitamins? Have they checked your iron, ferritin, B12 & D? A lack of any of those can make you tired. Have they checked your thyroid?

Just a few things to think about.

No most Celiac, as well as most people, can tolerate them just fine. There are a few people that can't.

Do you have Celiac? Or an allergy to wheat? They are 2 different things. If you are allergic to corn or soy, it it possibly an ingredient in the hummus?

If you are eating a small variety of foods, perhaps you need some vitamins? Have they checked your iron, ferritin, B12 & D? A lack of any of those can make you tired. Have they checked your thyroid?

Just a few things to think about.


I have Celiac. I just went into a Celiac center in Boston and they ran a bunch of tests and after a year of gluten free, my IgA is back to almost normal...I still deal with anxiety every day but the fraction compared to how it was is like, 1/100. They checked my vitimans, and everything looked good except D, so I need to find a supp. for that. Thyroid is fine, senstivie thyroid check has been fine. No corn or soy in the hummus I eat.

ONLY possible thing I can think of, is that I take klonopin and it has a corn starch filler so I am sure that is contributing negatively to everything...it may be CAUSING some anxiety rather than what is is supposed to be doing, but that is a long ween to get off of it, which I am starting this week.

I would hate to cut Hummus out of my diet, its how I get most my protein, the healthy fat I need(Olive oil) etc.

Thanks for the reply!
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:31 PM

Legumes are a good source of protein. Some of us do not tolerate them but it has nothing to do with gluten. I had to cut them from my diet because of the lectins contained in their outer skins which interfere with my autonomic nervous system and give me atrial fibrillation. I am also intolerant of soy (which happens to be in the legume family) and corn for the same reason.

If you suspect that you might have this additional intolerance, you should try eliminating all beans and peas and see if your fatigue level improves. You can always verify by challenging the food group again and observing your reaction once your system has been clear of it for a while. Often you will react more strongly on reintroduction.

Are you allergic to the foods you list, or intolerant? There is a difference in the body's reaction between the two conditions. Celiac disease is not an allergy to gluten but an intolerance, which causes physical damage to the small intestine. An allergy will cause hives, itching, swelling, anaphylaxis.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

Legumes are a good source of protein. Some of us do not tolerate them but it has nothing to do with gluten. I had to cut them from my diet because of the lectins contained in their outer skins which interfere with my autonomic nervous system and give me atrial fibrillation. I am also intolerant of soy (which happens to be in the legume family) and corn for the same reason.

If you suspect that you might have this additional intolerance, you should try eliminating all beans and peas and see if your fatigue level improves. You can always verify by challenging the food group again and observing your reaction once your system has been clear of it for a while. Often you will react more strongly on reintroduction.

Are you allergic to the foods you list, or intolerant? There is a difference in the body's reaction between the two conditions. Celiac disease is not an allergy to gluten but an intolerance, which causes physical damage to the small intestine. An allergy will cause hives, itching, swelling, anaphylaxis.


Intolerant to the foods listed, sorry for the terminology mix up.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:37 PM

I am just trying to find a diet that works for me and it's been so hard. Ever since hummus has been making me so tired lately (its also a good food to eat when I am out and about because everywhere sells it) I am kind of worried.

Lately my diet has been:

Food:
Hummus, vegetables, bananas(only fruit I really like), and chicken(some nights)

Drink:
Coconut water
Water.

It is a very boring diet but it beats the alternative of being stuck in my bed, I am just trying to find a way to expand it without any kind of problems. I know I am overly cautious and I know I am not getting my calorie intake daily.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:54 PM

Hi Josh-

I am intolerant of many foods - most of which are high in lectins as Mushroom mentioned. The theory is once the damage caused by celiac disease heals/repairs itself I will be able to tolerate many of the foods that I am intolerant of.

All legumes make me tired - peas are like sleeping pills for me, peanuts make me tired and extremely emotional, soy makes me tired and angry -

How about trying a fruit smoothie if you arent a fan of many fruits - my son loves them with al different fruits and even greens - but will only eat green apples or grapes normally.

Can you eat almonds? I grind almonds with basil or cilantro - and a little garlic & plive or coconut oil -- makes a great replacement for hummus and easy to make in the blender.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:08 PM

Hi Josh-

I am intolerant of many foods - most of which are high in lectins as Mushroom mentioned. The theory is once the damage caused by celiac disease heals/repairs itself I will be able to tolerate many of the foods that I am intolerant of.

All legumes make me tired - peas are like sleeping pills for me, peanuts make me tired and extremely emotional, soy makes me tired and angry -

How about trying a fruit smoothie if you arent a fan of many fruits - my son loves them with al different fruits and even greens - but will only eat green apples or grapes normally.

Can you eat almonds? I grind almonds with basil or cilantro - and a little garlic & plive or coconut oil -- makes a great replacement for hummus and easy to make in the blender.


It's funny because after I cut out peas from my diet, I felt a lot better. I am intolerant to soy. Intolerant to corn. I guess other legumes wouldn't surprise me. That being such a staple food. What can I replace it with...I don't do almonds. I can't do potatoes. Veggies and fruits all day sometimes make me edgy because of all the sugar. It's so frustrating. I'm so new to this and have come such a long way by finding out all these intolerances after 4 or 5 doctors all told me I was wrong. They all believe me now and get their mental health patients checked before even prescribing now. I am 20 years old and still pretty new to all of this. Hell, to think if I never have found all this out alone and requested those tests, I would still be on bed.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:45 PM

Does anyone here react to rices?
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:25 PM

Does anyone here react to rices?


I don't eat any grains - rice passed my eliminaiton/challenge diet, but I had to remove later. It will be the first grain I reintroduce after another six months or so.

If you don't do potato -- is it because it is a nightshade or you just don't like them? Sweet potato and yams are not nightshade. I also eat quite a bit of squash -- I cook a spaghetti squash every couple days to keep "noodles" ready to add to meat and vegies for quick meals. I love butternut squash fries -- and recently got a julienne mandolin to cut zucchini into angel hair like "noodles"
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My children and I all have multiple copies of the genes for Celiac Disease, along with large variety of symptoms/resolution gluten-free

Current tally from me, three kids and two grands: 4 diagnosed with Celiac Disease, 2 NCGS

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

I don't eat any grains - rice passed my eliminaiton/challenge diet, but I had to remove later. It will be the first grain I reintroduce after another six months or so.

If you don't do potato -- is it because it is a nightshade or you just don't like them? Sweet potato and yams are not nightshade. I also eat quite a bit of squash -- I cook a spaghetti squash every couple days to keep "noodles" ready to add to meat and vegies for quick meals. I love butternut squash fries -- and recently got a julienne mandolin to cut zucchini into angel hair like "noodles"


I don't do potatoes because I read somewhere people with a lot of intolerances react to them quite often. I know I am being overly cautious but I just came out of two years of the darkest point in my life and never want to go back. So sweet potatoes and yams aren't in that same class as say a normal red skin potato?

Also,

I would just like to thank everyone so much for all this info. It means the world to be truly. I am
Having a hard time.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

So sweet potatoes and yams aren't in that same class as say a normal red skin potato?
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.Nope , not in the same class ( different family )

I had eliminated potatoes for quite awhile but now that my food selection is so limited I do rotate potatoes into my diet once or twice a week.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

Sweet potatoes and yams are a staple of my diet. Unlike GottaSki, I am not totally grain free. I do eat alternative breads made with rice flour, tapioca, sorghum, buckwheat, arrowroot, teff. I do not eat wheat, oats, rye, barley, corn, quinoa, millet or amaranth. I eat white rice, but to be safe avoid brown rice which has the bran (and therefore the lectins) left on. Like you, I don't want to lose any more foods, although I found that healing the leaky gut was the key to preventing additional food loss. So long as those partially digested proteins are able to make it through the gut lining into the blood stream you run the risk of developing antibodies and 'losing' another food.

A program for gut healing often consists of a good quality (high billion count) probiotic to rebuild good flora in the gut, digestive enzymes to help with digestion as the pancreas is often not doing its job well, and L-glutamine for healing the lining.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:12 PM

ONLY possible thing I can think of, is that I take klonopin and it has a corn starch filler so I am sure that is contributing negatively to everything...it may be CAUSING some anxiety rather than what is is supposed to be doing, but that is a long ween to get off of it, which I am starting this week.

Hi Josh, I think it is the Klonopin contributing to your fatigue. It is an anti-anxiety med, classified as a sedative. Fatigue/tiredness is a side effect. You are also correct, in that it may also be causing anxiety--called "rebound anxiety". It can also cause depression.

When weaning off, do so very slowly (very slowly) and you will be fine. Contact me anytime.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:35 PM

Jerseygirl...I have been on the same dose of klonopin for a year. At first it made me tired but not anymore so I know it's not my klonopin. And it happens about 30 min after I eat my hummus
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