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Itching, But Not Eczema, Or Dh, Or Shingles,....
#1
Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:52 PM
No dry skin --believe me, I have tried lotions and ointments and antihistamines....
There is absolutely no sign of any skin rash or blisters or anything!! But I itch and it feels like it's on fire.
This is happening right now and has been going on for 48 hours at this point.
I do not know whether to call the gastroenterologist or the regular physician.
It's driving me crazy! Is this part of the celiac disease?
Have I been gluten-ed and not realized it?
I miss bread! But I love Kinnikinnick gluten free pizza crust.
Diagnosed celiac disease: November 2011 (biopsy and endoscopy)
other conditions: asthma, arthritis
#2
Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:34 PM
#3
Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:15 PM
Gluten free January 2012.
Tyramine free June 2012 - slowly getting a few foods back at a time.... scratch that
Low Histamine April 2013 - I swear this better be the last time I have to restrict my diet because giving up chocolate is the final straw
Iodine free briefly fall 2012
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living. It's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope, which is what I do, and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Theodor Geisel
#4
Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:42 PM
This is going to sound really stupid, but it is actually possible to be allergic to the cold. No, as dumb as that sounds I'm not making it up. I would certainly go see a doctor. I'm sure there are a lot of possibilities.
Yes, it is possible to be allergic to the cold - my hubs is. But he gets real evidence of it - huge welts like humongous chilblains all over.
"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." - Albert Einstein
"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"
"Whatever the question, the answer is always chocolate." Nigella Lawson
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Caffeine free 1973
Lactose free 1990
(Mis)diagnosed IBS, fibromyalgia '80's and '90's
Diagnosed psoriatic arthritis 2004
Self-diagnosed gluten intolerant, gluten-free Nov. 2007
Soy free March 2008
Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
(Totally) corn free Nov. 2009
Legume free March 2010
Now tolerant of lactose
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#5
Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:10 AM
Yes, it is possible to be allergic to the cold - my hubs is. But he gets real evidence of it - huge welts like humongous chilblains all over.
That would make me criminally insane. I was under the impression it is one of those "your reaction may vary" sort allergies where some people are like your husband and others only itch enough to appear crazy. I have been known to be wrong. I know more about the whole being allergic to water thing. (Which is equally stupid and crazy.)
Gluten free January 2012.
Tyramine free June 2012 - slowly getting a few foods back at a time.... scratch that
Low Histamine April 2013 - I swear this better be the last time I have to restrict my diet because giving up chocolate is the final straw
Iodine free briefly fall 2012
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living. It's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope, which is what I do, and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Theodor Geisel
#6
Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:13 AM
As for allergic to water --lord only knows what may be in the water!! any place and every place. Where I live the water that comes out of the faucets has been through the water "treatment" processing plant of the community and it sometimes smells like chlorine to me.... so
allergic to water can open a huge "can of worms".
I do not take (or need) thyroid medication, and I don't think this itching is caused by iodine.
As of this morning I would say that I do now have what may be a rash. It is still tough to even know if it is a rash because I have been rubbing the itching area (a lot) rather than scratching it. It is still driving me to distraction.
I do appreciate the input folks. Any other ideas?
I know of 2 things that I have eaten since Tuesday that are things I have not eaten in a long time....
One is fudge, I ate some chocolate fudge on Wednesday.
The other is beans,... kidney beans and black beans, which are in some chili I made, along with a can of Rotel mild.
So, I am aware that one of these, very likely the beans
Wednesday evening and had it for lunch on Thursday. I am now avoiding eating the chili --and it's wait and see from here....
I have an appointment with the nurse practioner at my doctor's office, but not until next Wednesday.....
So, yes, wait and see...what happens with the itching in the meanwhile.... and also paying close attention to any
other symptoms that may crop up or get worse. (I can still go to a walk-in clinic...)
I miss bread! But I love Kinnikinnick gluten free pizza crust.
Diagnosed celiac disease: November 2011 (biopsy and endoscopy)
other conditions: asthma, arthritis
#7
Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:06 AM
#8
Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:40 AM
I would make sure you have removed all sources of gluten along with keeping a food log to see if any other foods are the cause.
For me - soaking in a tub of epsom salt and baking soda calms the itch to tolerable levels.
Hang in there - itching is the pits!
-Lisa
Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years
3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive
10/27/09 diagnosed fibromyalgia - supplemented with amino acids - improvement followed by substantial deterioration
maybe one good hour per day for ~17 months
8/10/11 - Elimination Diet for Autoimmune Disease - incredible improvement along with clear reactions to most high lectin foods
only remaining symptom - severe heat intolerance / reaction to heat, humidity and exercise
Tomato, Pepper, Potato, Peanut, Soy, Bean, Pea, Citrus, Pineapple, Avocado, Shellfish, Dairy, Grain, Nut and Seed FREE
3/1/12 - Horrible flare -- same ol' symptoms but worse ~ 7/1/12 - Endo: Active Celiac 3+ years - as gluten-free as humanly possible.
11/15/12 - Improving once again - Almonds back - Eggs gone
12/1/12 - Histamine containing and inducing foods FREE - finally the last piece of the puzzle (I hope) -- the cause of my heat/exercise "allergy"...
...this was one of my earliest symptoms as a child -- the enzyme (DAO) needed to regulate histamine is created in the small intestine.
If you have read this far - hang in there - obtaining health with any AI is a marathon, not a sprint!
This stubbornly tenacious feisty optimist is vertical once again.
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#9
Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:30 PM
it itches all the time and nothing relieves it. nothing.
I have tried lotion, scrubbing, baby oil, anti-itch cream,..... nothing changes this at all.
I have been keeping track of what I eat (and drink), but since I have taken all new
foods out of the diet there has been no change. I am now going on the assumption
that the itching is not caused by anything I consume.
The only thing on my mind is shingles. I did have chicken pox as a child.
the only pictures I find of shingles look absolutely ghastly and nothing like what
my skin looks like right now.
I am wearing a t-shirt and I scratch the shirt -NOT the bare skin. However, scratch
or not it just itches all the time!!
I see a nurse practitioner on Wednesday. not soon enough for me!
I miss bread! But I love Kinnikinnick gluten free pizza crust.
Diagnosed celiac disease: November 2011 (biopsy and endoscopy)
other conditions: asthma, arthritis
#10
Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:38 PM
I do have what appears to be a rash. I cannot figure out why though.
it itches all the time and nothing relieves it. nothing.
I have tried lotion, scrubbing, baby oil, anti-itch cream,..... nothing changes this at all.
I have been keeping track of what I eat (and drink), but since I have taken all new
foods out of the diet there has been no change. I am now going on the assumption
that the itching is not caused by anything I consume.
The only thing on my mind is shingles. I did have chicken pox as a child.
the only pictures I find of shingles look absolutely ghastly and nothing like what
my skin looks like right now.
I am wearing a t-shirt and I scratch the shirt -NOT the bare skin. However, scratch
or not it just itches all the time!!
I see a nurse practitioner on Wednesday. not soon enough for me!
If it is DH - gluten can stay active in the skin for a very long time - hopefully the experts can add better info than I.
-Lisa
Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years
3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive
10/27/09 diagnosed fibromyalgia - supplemented with amino acids - improvement followed by substantial deterioration
maybe one good hour per day for ~17 months
8/10/11 - Elimination Diet for Autoimmune Disease - incredible improvement along with clear reactions to most high lectin foods
only remaining symptom - severe heat intolerance / reaction to heat, humidity and exercise
Tomato, Pepper, Potato, Peanut, Soy, Bean, Pea, Citrus, Pineapple, Avocado, Shellfish, Dairy, Grain, Nut and Seed FREE
3/1/12 - Horrible flare -- same ol' symptoms but worse ~ 7/1/12 - Endo: Active Celiac 3+ years - as gluten-free as humanly possible.
11/15/12 - Improving once again - Almonds back - Eggs gone
12/1/12 - Histamine containing and inducing foods FREE - finally the last piece of the puzzle (I hope) -- the cause of my heat/exercise "allergy"...
...this was one of my earliest symptoms as a child -- the enzyme (DAO) needed to regulate histamine is created in the small intestine.
If you have read this far - hang in there - obtaining health with any AI is a marathon, not a sprint!
This stubbornly tenacious feisty optimist is vertical once again.
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
#11
Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:45 PM
One of the main reasons I was not that surprised when I was diagnosed (via biopsy) with Celiac Disease is that one of my worst symptoms was itchy skin. This was primarily in the winter, and there is never any sign of a skin ailment, other than the marks I leave from scratching that burning, itchy skin.
No dry skin --believe me, I have tried lotions and ointments and antihistamines....
There is absolutely no sign of any skin rash or blisters or anything!! But I itch and it feels like it's on fire.
This is happening right now and has been going on for 48 hours at this point.
I do not know whether to call the gastroenterologist or the regular physician.
It's driving me crazy! Is this part of the celiac disease?
Have I been gluten-ed and not realized it?
I don't think its a part of Celiac, but maybe in association of a compromised system, or
DH itself. Liver enzymes can be out of wack due to Celiac. It can be very common with a diagnosis (some can itch, others not). Meds, could also be a cause. Blood pressure meds or cholesteral meds could also be a player. Simply easy scratching can leave whelps. Add a cool compress to the agitated area.
Gluten Free - August 15, 2004
"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien
#12
Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:50 PM
I blew through about half a bottle a day, and didn't find that it relieved the itching completely but I did find that Calamine lotion helped take the edge off enough that I wasn't driven criminally insane. It must be pink and not clear. Have you tried Benadryl? I don't know if it will help or not, but I don't see how it can hurt.
Gluten free January 2012.
Tyramine free June 2012 - slowly getting a few foods back at a time.... scratch that
Low Histamine April 2013 - I swear this better be the last time I have to restrict my diet because giving up chocolate is the final straw
Iodine free briefly fall 2012
I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living. It's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope, which is what I do, and that enables you to laugh at life's realities. -- Theodor Geisel
#13
Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:07 PM
We have had quite a few long time celiacs who never presented with dh (gluten-free for 8, 10 years these people) get cc'd or glutened & suddenly they break out in dh rash.
I'm going to excerpt a portion of this by Dr. Joseph Murray & also give the link for the entire paper.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~coeliac/sprue.html
Excerpt:
What happens when a DH patient ingests gluten? In the intestine the
body's immune system mounts a response to the gluten. Part of that
response is the production of antibodies, which are like little
chemical messengers the body produces to attack things and help defend
itself. In DH patients those antibodies often get dumped under the
lining of the skin, where they just sit like little land mines for
days, months, or years. Then one day something triggers them
(sunlight, iodine in a cleanser, etc.) and you get this little
bursting forth as the skin's immune system begins attacking these
deposits thus forming the blisters. But the deposits occur originally
due to the intestine being exposed to gluten.
So you can understand better from this exactly how one can present with dh long, long after having been gluten-free or after being gluten-free & getting cc'd or glutened & then suddenly presenting with dh when you never did before.
Understand, I'm not saying your rash is dh but it could be.
Does it itch more at night & wake you up?
Is it symmetrical? Presenting on both sides of the body ie: both arms, both legs, both hands, both elbows?
Can you take photos & post them?
Gluten free Dec. 2011
Soy free Dec. 2011
Hubs self diagnosed dh March 30, 2012
Hubs gluten free March 30, 2012
#14
Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:25 PM
Gluten Free - August 15, 2004
"Not all who wander are lost" - JRR Tolkien
#15
Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:52 PM
I never said "it is" only "if it is".
-Lisa
Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years
3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive
10/27/09 diagnosed fibromyalgia - supplemented with amino acids - improvement followed by substantial deterioration
maybe one good hour per day for ~17 months
8/10/11 - Elimination Diet for Autoimmune Disease - incredible improvement along with clear reactions to most high lectin foods
only remaining symptom - severe heat intolerance / reaction to heat, humidity and exercise
Tomato, Pepper, Potato, Peanut, Soy, Bean, Pea, Citrus, Pineapple, Avocado, Shellfish, Dairy, Grain, Nut and Seed FREE
3/1/12 - Horrible flare -- same ol' symptoms but worse ~ 7/1/12 - Endo: Active Celiac 3+ years - as gluten-free as humanly possible.
11/15/12 - Improving once again - Almonds back - Eggs gone
12/1/12 - Histamine containing and inducing foods FREE - finally the last piece of the puzzle (I hope) -- the cause of my heat/exercise "allergy"...
...this was one of my earliest symptoms as a child -- the enzyme (DAO) needed to regulate histamine is created in the small intestine.
If you have read this far - hang in there - obtaining health with any AI is a marathon, not a sprint!
This stubbornly tenacious feisty optimist is vertical once again.
Celiac.com - Celiac Disease Board Moderator
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