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Hair Salon...gah!
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Okay I'd REALLY like to get my hair trimmed. My husband called a salon for him to go get his hair trimmed a while back and they could not get him in during a time when no one else was there....they just don't do that. We're having a hard time of finding a safer way of going to the salon without having to worry about getting glutened by wheat in hairspray etc.

What should we do? Learn to cut each others hair? lol Seriously it feels ridiculous. He went and got his hair trimmed but i have proven to be way more sensitive than him. I also have a possible salicylic acid problem on top of this and I'm just at a loss.

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I'm not much help, my mother cuts my hair... :ph34r:

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Yeah my Aunt back in newfoundland use to cut mine *sighs* DAMN! lol I'm not taking a plane ride for a hair cut lol

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Not all hairsprays have wheat in them. Can you just look for a salon that doesn't use gluten-containing products? My salon is a Neuma salon - all their products are gluten free and vegan (along with no parabens, etc.)

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Book the first appointment of the morning.

No one else will be in the salon. Less stuff in the air.

Have her just cut your hair.

And say: No hair spray please.

Many hairsprays do not have wheat in them anyway.

There is no need to be overly worried about such things. Honest!

You are over-thinking some of this stuff, hon.

Or seek out a salon that uses no chemicals whatsoever.

I go to one and I do not get that awful nauseating chemical smell whacking me in

the face when I walk through the door.

If you have a salicylic acid allergy/intolerance-- you would have some nasty symptoms.

Do you have urticaria? (Hives) asthma? bronchial problems?

If you have true allergies, they can be found via blood work. Find an allergist to help you.

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Just bring your own products with you. If I only need a cut I wash my hair right before the appointment and go with my hair wet. Then the stylist just has to spray a bit of water on it if it has dried too much before the appointment. When I have them wash my hair before the cut I bring my shampoo and conditioner and ask them to put a clean towel on the edge of the wash basin so I am not in contact with the edge that may have some residue from one of my problem ingredients. I also have them rinse off any combs etc that have been sitting in a sanitizing bath between customers. I haven't had any problems with my stylist accomodating my needs at any salon I have gone to.

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My salon isn't full of hairspray in the air but it is more spacious than some.

I don't know how complicated a hair cut you want. You look like you have a lot of pretty & long hair from your previous picture. There are women barbers that cut male & female hair at my boys barber shop. They cut layers, etc without all the spraying. They have gel and hairspray but rarely use the spray. I used to go to a barbershop a hundred years ago when I was in college. Much cheaper. I just needed my hair cut straight.

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There are some hairdressers that do work from home. (Usually the ones who developed allergies.)

Ask around. Especially if it is a really nice cut. Get the hairdresser's name and number and ask them personally for a time the salon is not busy. If it is a closer connection, you may be able to make arrangements for a home visit.

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Only asked as I read some topics before where people seemed concerned. My husband was also concerned about the sanitizing liquid. Would it be possible to do you think, for me to just bring my own comb too? And scissors?

As for Salicylic Acid Irish Heart I've heard that many people who are celiac find out they have it. I had a reaction to high sals foods in august and seem to now as well. I've never had aspirin so i have no idea. All I get are gastro symptoms but a lot of people on the boards for that problem do. I use to take motrin but that was long before any of this started with me. They've all been saying there is really no test that can tell you if you are intolerant so I'm not sure what this blood test you speak of is? They said all you can really do is the elimination diet to know?

I was having itching for a long time ...under the skin itchy prickles. Haven't had them really much the past year. Never broke out unless i scratched my arm or my husband scratched my back. Then a line of little bumps would come up. Back in 2008 I had cold urticaria for a while but that seemed to disappear and it was only on my cheeks.

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Sorry, I should have been more specific.

If you have allergies to foods that are high in salicylates, and they provoke those symptoms, they can do IgE

skin prick testing.

An actual " SA intolerance" --there is no test for that (that I know of) although I did read one Pub Med article that

mentions a way to determine it via provocation and biopsy of nose polyps which are frequent with SA Intolerance. (It was published in Germany)

if you want to read the article, and see about symptoms and diagnosis of SA intolerance it is here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2696737/

If you have a reaction to aspirin, you could have a salicylic acid problem, but if you've never taken it, it would be hard to tell..

I agree that if a food group seems to be bothering you, you should eliminate it.

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Sorry, I should have been more specific.

If you have allergies to foods that are high in salicylates, and they provoke those symptoms, they can do IgE

skin prick testing.

An actual " SA intolerance" --there is no test for that (that I know of) although I did read one Pub Med article that

mentions a way to determine it via provocation and biopsy of nose polyps which are frequent with SA Intolerance. (It was published in Germany)

if you want to read the article, and see about symptoms and diagnosis of SA intolerance it is here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2696737/

If you have a reaction to aspirin, you could have a salicylic acid problem, but if you've never taken it, it would be hard to tell..

I agree that if a food group seems to be bothering you, you should eliminate it.

I have taken motrin in the past tho many times (And it's an NSAID). For a while after I first took it I was fine and within a week or two the itching i described above happened. Then it came and went over a period of about 2 years maybe? Mostly in winter. But when i was inside not outside. No idea what caused it at the time but i don't get it anymore. Do you think this sensitivity is permanent or do you think it can go away after the gut heals? I sniffed peppermint and ginger essential oils 2 days before i got sick like i am right now and on the 29th of december i got sick to my stomach and after that pale loose stool. I'm "clumping up" more now but it's still a little on the light side and my bilirubin is way up from where i was before sniffing those oils. So i'm thinking it was a sals reaction rather than gluten because it seems to coincide with the oils. But i've been chewing peppermint trident gum all the time except for this week and i was fine so i dunno. It's really getting hard to tell if this is a sals reaction or a gluten one. I still have virtually no appetite but i force myself to eat. This has been going on about a week now.

p.s. i've been known to get random bruising from time to time..i noticed today while doing some reading that many with sals sensitivity have that?

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Sounds to me like you definitely need to avoid the gluten. One thing I read was that soy is a BIG time contaminator. Are you eating soy still? In a study that tested supposedly "gluten-free" products (but did contain soy) they found that some of the products had up to almost 3,000 ppm of gluten! (when less than 20ppm is supposedly considered gluten-free!). They determined that soy is typically grown in the same fields as wheat and other grains, transported on the same tractors, processed in the same facility, etc. etc., so the contamination can be awful!

You may already know this...just thought I'd mention it ;)

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Been off gluten since may. Soy..the only possible thing it could be in is ore ida fries. And that's just possibly because it always says this oil and/or that oil and/or another kind heh

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My salon doesn't use spray unless you ask. You might want to find a salon that caters to younger people because I think they are less likely to want the spray. Look for one that has stations that are far apart. The stations are close together where we go but there is never anyone working in the chair next to where we go. If you are still worried, you could wear an ear loop mask so that you aren't actually breathing in any hair spray. And then do a wipedown of any exposed skin as soon as you get out of there. If you can't use baby wipes then you could maybe keep a container of wet washcloths or paper towels in your car. Then wash your clothes and shower as soon as you get home. You might also consider as someone else said, the first appointment in the morning or the last one in the evening. We used to get the last one due to our schedule. There was usually no one else there at that time. And of course bring your own products or if they will allow it, wash your hair at home and come in with it wet. They might not like this though because when it is wet, they might not be able to judge various things such as the conditon of it or where the layers are, etc. But then I'm no hairdresser so I'm only guessing about this.

You could look for someone who either would come to your home or where you could go to theirs. My mom used to go to a woman who did this in her home. And when I was a kid, we had one come to our home. You might even see if someone from a salon would be willing to do this. But they may or may not be allowed to do this. Not sure where to tell you to look for this.

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Sounds to me like you definitely need to avoid the gluten. One thing I read was that soy is a BIG time contaminator. Are you eating soy still? In a study that tested supposedly "gluten-free" products (but did contain soy) they found that some of the products had up to almost 3,000 ppm of gluten! (when less than 20ppm is supposedly considered gluten-free!). They determined that soy is typically grown in the same fields as wheat and other grains, transported on the same tractors, processed in the same facility, etc. etc., so the contamination can be awful!

You may already know this...just thought I'd mention it ;)

Soy is not harmful to celiacs, but many find they may develop an additional intolerance to it. (I am one of them)

This does not mean all soy is cross contaminated.

We see this "3000 ppm of gluten in soy" posted frequently on here, but no one has ever actually posted the scientific SOURCE of this information. It would be very helpful if you could please post the link to this research study so we can all see it? Thanks!.

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I guess someday when I have the guts I'll make an appointment for a beginning of day slot and bring my own stuff.

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I guess someday when I have the guts I'll make an appointment for a beginning of day slot and bring my own stuff.

Sounds like a good start, Wendy :)

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I'm currently trying to talk my husband into a salon that uses Unite products. They are all gluten free. I'll still aim for an early appointment, but at least I'm not paying them for a bunch of crap they aren't even gonna do, like wash my hair. The problem is they charge a base of $45 for a cut, my husband is sort of freaking out. :lol:

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