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#1 lockerbear

 
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:59 AM

Hi everyone. I've been waiting months to find out what was wrong with me after going gluten free my naturopath told me i have candida. I am so upset because out of all the different conditions that displayed my symptoms I was hoping this was the only one i didn't have... I have read so many scary stories about it how people have it for years and the diet is the most restricting thing I've ever seen... I also have leaky gut and have to rotate my foods

Is it really true that it takes years to go away? And what else is there besides diet that I can do for it? I will do the diet, but i want to know what else can help. I've been looking at threelac but apparently they changed one of the ingredients a few years ago and now it's dangerous.. I'm not sure why they would do this because there were so many people who had good experience with it before. I'm really wondering what is going to happen now.. I've never taken many antibiotics and i don't even have celiac so I'm really confused as to why this happened. If anyone has had any success with it please tell me... Do symptoms at least subside while you're doing the diet? Do any cleanses work? I'm really worried that I will have this forever and I'm so upset...
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:37 PM

Hi everyone. I've been waiting months to find out what was wrong with me after going gluten free my naturopath told me i have candida. I am so upset because out of all the different conditions that displayed my symptoms I was hoping this was the only one i didn't have... I have read so many scary stories about it how people have it for years and the diet is the most restricting thing I've ever seen... I also have leaky gut and have to rotate my foods

Is it really true that it takes years to go away? And what else is there besides diet that I can do for it? I will do the diet, but i want to know what else can help. I've been looking at threelac but apparently they changed one of the ingredients a few years ago and now it's dangerous.. I'm not sure why they would do this because there were so many people who had good experience with it before. I'm really wondering what is going to happen now.. I've never taken many antibiotics and i don't even have celiac so I'm really confused as to why this happened. If anyone has had any success with it please tell me... Do symptoms at least subside while you're doing the diet? Do any cleanses work? I'm really worried that I will have this forever and I'm so upset...


How do you know you do not have celiac? Have you had any specific celiac testing done? You should get tests for celiac antibodies...TtG Iga and TtG IgGDeamidated Gliadin Peptides (DGP) both TtG and IgGTotal serum IgAanti-endomysial antibodies (anti-EMA)If you have "leaky gut" you should suspect celiac.That said, the gluten-free diet does not have to be restrictive! There are substitutes, and pretty good ones for the common things you might miss...hamburger/hot dog/sandwich rolls, quick breads, cookies. And a lot of your favorites are probably naturally gluten free! There is a bit of a learning curve to figure out the "hidden" gluten in seasonings/spices/processed foods, but once you get that down it becomes second nature.If you have systemic candida, you might want to go REALLY restrictive and do a grain-free, starch-free, sugar free diet. Like, perhaps, paleo/primal or SCD/GAPS. Best to you.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

How do you know you do not have celiac? Have you had any specific celiac testing done? You should get tests for celiac antibodies...TtG Iga and TtG IgGDeamidated Gliadin Peptides (DGP) both TtG and IgGTotal serum IgAanti-endomysial antibodies (anti-EMA)If you have "leaky gut" you should suspect celiac.That said, the gluten-free diet does not have to be restrictive! There are substitutes, and pretty good ones for the common things you might miss...hamburger/hot dog/sandwich rolls, quick breads, cookies. And a lot of your favorites are probably naturally gluten free! There is a bit of a learning curve to figure out the "hidden" gluten in seasonings/spices/processed foods, but once you get that down it becomes second nature.If you have systemic candida, you might want to go REALLY restrictive and do a grain-free, starch-free, sugar free diet. Like, perhaps, paleo/primal or SCD/GAPS. Best to you.


Hi thanks for the reply. I did have a blood test done which came back negative, but i followed a strict gluten free diet anyway and got better only for about 2 weeks because I went out to eat and they completely messed up my order and gave me the full gluten version. I got better again but i started getting more sensitive to gluten and got cc'd and now I'm just getting worse and worse (becoming intolerant to things and now bloating regardless of anything i eat) when there is no chance im still consuming it.. my naturopath said i have candida and after seeing everything i've read about it im ready to give up already. I've been trying so hard, but failing to gain my weight back now i'll probably lose more and i don't even know how long this is going to take to go away. I was kind of happy to do SCD before, but i don't think i can eat fruit or honey which makes me pretty upset..
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

sorry just to add.. i have cut out all processed foods, soy, dairy, corn, peanuts for about 3 months now and cut out grains about a week ago
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

Hi thanks for the reply. I did have a blood test done which came back negative, but i followed a strict gluten free diet anyway and got better only for about 2 weeks because I went out to eat and they completely messed up my order and gave me the full gluten version. I got better again but i started getting more sensitive to gluten and got cc'd and now I'm just getting worse and worse (becoming intolerant to things and now bloating regardless of anything i eat) when there is no chance im still consuming it.. my naturopath said i have candida and after seeing everything i've read about it im ready to give up already. I've been trying so hard, but failing to gain my weight back now i'll probably lose more and i don't even know how long this is going to take to go away. I was kind of happy to do SCD before, but i don't think i can eat fruit or honey which makes me pretty upset..


You do have a puzzle here. So sorry you can't seem to get it nailed down. I was wondering...did you ask your doctor for copies of your lab results? They might tell you your test was negative, but they don't automatically do ALL the celiac tests. It is possible that you have antibodies that they did not test for.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

I'm not too sure about the results I only got one test done, I have been following a gluten free diet for 5 months though so I don't think any tests would come back accurately now and I think eating gluten again in my condition might just make me intestines explode! I'm not sure what else I can do even if i do have celiac though... The candida diet is pretty strict and i also have to rotate it to avoid new intolerances and try not to lose any more weight...
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

Can you tell us what you are currently eating that does not bother you?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:00 PM

well it is difficult to tell because my symptoms are sort of constant now. When i used to react to foods my bloating would get worse and I'd feel very full with undigested food and difficulty passing a bowel movement. I thought i was ok with fruit, but sometimes got some bloating and stomach gurgles, but this was very inconsistent. I never noticed carbs making a difference much as I was able to eat potatoes, rice and sweet potatoes without feeling too different, but eventually my bloating and fullness got worse and never went away so i cut these out. I thought I'd be ok with no carbs and just meat, but it seems like meat makes me feel very full and bloated. I even take HCL supplements for this which hasn't changed it. It's very hard to tell what is causing the problems though when i get them regardless :\ the only thing that hasn't caused me any problems so far is vegetables, but i don't think i can do a diet with just vegetables.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:32 PM

So what have you eaten today?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

well so far i had these chicken patties with garlic, sea salt and at the moment im eating a chicken stir fry with onion, spinach, and celery and im also trying black beans since i haven't eaten many legumes and im trying them out
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

Perhaps I should add that it is recommended that you should only try one new thing at a time, otherwise you will not know what it is you are reacting to, if you react :ph34r: This is why it is advised that you get a basic group of foods you know are safe, even if it is only rice, apple sauce, sweet potato, white fish, for example. Once you have successfully eaten that, add in something else, but only ONE thing. After four days, add in something else.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:31 AM

I'm in your same boat - been here for 5 years. I've tried everything under the sun to get rid of candida (threelac, caprylic acid, pau d'arco, garlic, blah blah blah). Only thing that keeps things at bay for me is a strict no grain, no alcohol diet. Which of course, is no fun at all. When I'm ridiculously strict about it, I do feel better. But I slip up from time to time (love my wine nights with girlfriends and PMS carb cravings are a bear). I wish there was some magic cure that could get rid of this so I could go back to my happy eating life I knew back in 2007, but at least I'm healthier now and can pretty much eat all the meat/vegetables I want without gaining a pound. I'm still losing foods though - can't have corn or nuts anymore now...there go all my fun almond meal recipes :( Hope you have better luck than me.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

Aw I'm so sorry for your struggle =\ That picture you have of that cat is so darn cute >< anyway I don't know your story, but I've recently befriended a person who got rid of candida after a long time and he's been telling me there are often other things accompanying it. He said he was never able to get rid of it until he got rid of heavy metals and in so many cases this can keep people from getting better.. I don't know if it's the case for you, but maybe you should look into it and other things that can be accompanying it. It may seem like these things wouldn't be a problem.. but i never took many antibiotics and i have always been relatively healthy and now i somehow have candida.. It's really hard to know a lot of the time what is really making us sick and to just look to things that are supposedly going to work and give us instant fixes because there can be so many different things and everyone is different. Just keep fighting and don't give up, but make sure you focus on every aspect and not just one thing..
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:58 PM

Have a read of this, it's just a snippit of information from a clinic that fixes leaky gut full time year in year out. Well worth the insight from a Doctor that knows what they are doing regarding fixing it http://www.encognitive.com/node/4988 . It seems to me not many people on this forum actually have developed leaky gut, I've seen posts from a few that have the symptoms and blood work to support it but only very few.. Most seem to have a quite different thing with a real problem with wheat only, which imho will sooner or later develop into leaky gut at least in atopic people pre disposed to being hyper allergic.

I'm following the ideas from that clinic and I'm improving but because I've been doing it myself it's slow progress. I'm finally getting some help from a specialist next week (happy party time). Don't give up hope, I've been suffering with this for at least 20 years and believe I'll still recover eventually. It might take a few years. Actually it can't possibly take more than 2 years once you are onto it because that's how long antibodies to things last. If you DO have esonphilia and high IgE levels I can highly recommend you take Zyrtec once a day and take it for several months. It will help drop your levels down and is about the safest way you can do it with drugs, it also controls your histamine which will help your skin and intestine heal. Also mostly stops the pain when you eat (because of the same reason ^). There was a girl on here "pturse" ? that seemed absolute classic leaky gut that I've read in the archives but she seems to have disapeared. Pity about that I wanted to see how she was going these days.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:26 PM

Thanks for the help foam. That clinic seems really good, I just wish I was able to get real help from these kinds of people than have to do everything on my own. I feel I've been given a death sentence by being diagnosed with candida because everyone says they've suffered for so long.. I'm not entirely sure if I have leaky gut, I'm just very confused and I don't want to suffer for years... but my body doesn't care what I want or it wouldn't have ended up like this in the first place... I'll try my best to follow as many ideas from this link as I can
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