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#16 mushroom

 
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

After all the rinsing cycles that a washer goes through, I do not believe there is any potential gluten powder residue on the bed linen to worry about. Remember that hotels have to wash their sheets to a standard that even those who have allergic skin reactions to various products will not react to their bed linen. I have always luxuriated in hotel bed linens because everthing is so beautifully cleaned and pressed and presented. And I do not stuff pillowcases or sheets into my mouth or chew on them, so even if there were something left in the sheets, merely touching them would not be a problem for me. And we are not even sure that their detergent contains gluten in the first place. If I may speak candidly, there is a difference between taking sensible precautions to avoid gluten, and letting it dominate one's life. We can all dream up scenarios where gluten might potentially jump out at us, but these chances are highly unlikely -- in fact, I have to wrack my brains to come up with things that might potentially get me that I am not anticipating. I certainly do not go looking in crevices to see if gluten might be lurking there. And I am very careful what I put in my mouth. And I am very careful about what I inhale because I have very bad lungs and breathing problems. But having never been glutened by a hotel bed before, but having been bedbugged twice by accommodations, I personally would be much more concerned about bedbugs than gluten.
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#17 Lisa

 
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

Lisa- if there is gluten from laundry detergent....just as people worry about at home...and they touch it with their hands and put their hands to their mouth...even if accidentally during the night...could they not be glutened? I have no idea why it would have to be bacteria or fungus etc in your opinion....we're told to not use gluteny products all the time. I just think this is a valid worry. I'm not overly worried but curious what people think and why.


Wendy, I have not found, in eight years, a laundry detergent that is NOT gluten free. Sheets and Towels should not be a worry for you.

We recommended not to use shampoos ( that list gluten) that can drip into our mouths, or facial lotions or lipsticks. AND....

I worry that YOU worry too much. :) :) :)

Feel free to PM me, whenever you choose. ;) xxoo
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

Thank you this is all i'm saying....I wanted to know why it was considered to not be a worry. I am asking this stuff because I use to get something at the holiday inn that i thought might potentially have been gluten. I think it's different to have a valid question than being told you're a worrier by everyone. I'm an analytical person and it's my nature to ask questions about such things. LIke wise my husband is having a much much harder time with this than I am and wanted me to ask about it. He's also asked me to ask about cleaning out the car. And now he's trying to find out just how big gluten molecules are because he wants to get a new vacuum with a hepa filter but he needs to know the size of it to know what to get to ensure it filters gluten. But no one on here (we did a search and can't seem to find it) seems to know the SIZE of the gluten molecule. I've seen the weight and that is all. It's precautionary when it comes to the vacuum but he wants to know and can't find this anywhere he's looked. He is way more paranoid than me about this stuff. However, inquiring minds want to know. So I ask.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

I think a HEPA filter would get rid of anything that might cause you problems. They're designed to filter out molecules down to 0.3 microns, and, for a reference, in life sciences we filter things with a 0.25 micron filter when we want it REALLY clean.

Wonder what got you at the HI. Cleaning service didn't clean the crumbs from the previous tenant?
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:16 PM

If you do some reading here: http://www.aseanfood...es/11017454.pdf - you will find that gluten molecules vary greatly in size, but are some of the largest molecules there are. So the zonulin in our guts must open the gates pretty wide to let them through :huh: into the bloodstream. This must be why they do not pass through the epidermis; i.e., you can only get a skin reaction from contact, not a systemic reaction.

I stay at the Holiday Inn Express at SFO every year on our way through and have never had a problem with them, bed or breakfast.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:20 PM

That did happen once somewhere else....a hotel gave us a room that hadn't been cleaned yet but we complained and got a new room. Not that time though and not the holiday inn.

I was just told by my husband I should add this.....chances are we know many of the things we ask about are not a problem but this disclaimer has to be made. Perhaps some of you have experienced this at different times in your life and maybe not. I don't talk to many people about it except my mother and my husbands parents because most would have a hard time believing it. Our sheer bad luck in various things the past few months...has been unbelievable. To the point we feel like Bruce in Bruce Almighty when he gets angry with god. Eventually SO much happens bad in a short period...sicknesses and various other things out of our control...that you really do begin to feel like someone upstairs is bullying you. For real. We are, the past couple months, the most depressed we've been in ages now. So if we seem a little overly worried...I just want to say it's with good reason. A meteor hit russia yesterday....can we say we can go outside and reasonably say we won't be hit by one? Of course. Here's the thing..gluten and problems that you may have coinciding with it are much more likely...and luck....we have practically zero right now. So for our own sanity we ask about things. My husband has become more OCD than i've ever been washing his hands....they are very dried out and red. He just got back from the grocery store. He picked up jugs of water...the conveyer belt almost always has white specks all over it that he worries are flour. So then he comes home and feels the need to wash off the bottoms of the jugs so as to not cross contaminate anything. He never USE to be like this but he's worried sick now because our luck has been horrible.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

I have trouble with laundry detergents (Perfume) at the store. I have never smelled anything like that on hotel sheets.

I have had problems with motels when they are musty or water damaged.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

I am sorry you have been having a run of bad luck. Sometimes in life $*[t happens. But it is not normal for it to happen constantly. I remember when I was in driver's ed and they showed a video of what could happen while you were driving - dogs running out, kids chasing tennis balls, redlight runners, pedestrians not looking where they were going, blind little old ladies in walking frames popping up from nowhere. I said to the instructor, Boy, I hope driving really isn't like this or no one would do it. He reassured me that no, this was a lifetime's experiences all thrown together in one video, and that most days none of these things would happen while you were driving.

This is what is bothering me - that you are worrying about a lifetime's gluten horror stories happening on your trip through the supermarket, or your stay at a hotel. Ninety-nine point nine things that you are talking about will probably not happen to you. Not to say that they all can't, but most of them if they do there is precious little you can do about them, and worrying about them is going to drive you both crazy in the meantime. You must do what a normally prudent person with your level of sensitivity would do, which is what I do. The rest is up to chance and God or whatever higher power you respect. There is life to be lived, even for those who must avoid gluten, and so long as you follow normal precautions you should be just fine.
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Citric acid free June 2009
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

I've tried telling my husband that but it just seems like luck is not on our side..in every part of life right now. To tell you the truth i've been gluten free since may...but about once a month was still getting stomach pain. Upper middle stomach. The past month and a half I have not had this happen since eating low salicylates. I'm hoping if they have been part of my health issues that it's only temporary because some of the horror stories i've heard from people on THAT forum I really didn't need. That being said a lot of bad stuff has gone down the last..oh i dunno 4 months or so. The past 2 health-wise. My husband has no faith in luck/higher power because we basically feel like fate's punching bag at the moment so he's driving himself crazy with this.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

Yes, many of us do find we have other food issues to deal with after we cut out gluten; goodness only knows, I found enough of my own. If you are not yet one year in on this journey then you could still continue to have the occasional stomach ache, upset, for no known reason. If you see a particularl pattern, as you obviously did with the salicylates, then you take appropriate action and move on. You keep a food and symptom journal if you can't figure out what it is. You are still healing. I continued healing for three years or more.

Fate picks on all of us at one point or another; my last three summer vacations have resulted in hospitalizations. Last August they did not think I was going to make it. But here I am!!! One saying I heard that stuck with me through life -- survival does not depend on how hard you fall, but on how high you bounce!! :D Think of yourself as a rubber ball, and keep bouncing back :)
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"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." - Albert Einstein

"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"

"Whatever the question, the answer is always chocolate." Nigella Lawson

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Lactose free 1990
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Diagnosed psoriatic arthritis 2004
Self-diagnosed gluten intolerant, gluten-free Nov. 2007
Soy free March 2008
Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
(Totally) corn free Nov. 2009
Legume free March 2010
Now tolerant of lactose

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:50 PM

Currently being tested for casein...hoping that will come back fine so dairy can be had eventually. I have limited calcium and i really don't want to have to take supplements. I do have one i bought but haven't taken it. Most leafy greens are high in sals...thing is i was having broccoli (high in sals) and chewing gum (almost everyday and also high) a lot during that time and this pain would only hit me once a month. Weirdest thing. Not sure what caused it. But another thing I cut out was rice chex so i dunno if that could have been a culprit too/instead? SO right now..i'm eating boiled potatoes...lean ground beef...black beans....going to re-introduce cabbage next and then hopefully garlic...brussel sprouts....etc We'll see where it takes me as all those are low. Eventually i will work up to moderate sals...if i'm ok with that i'll try broccoli again. This will take a while but if i can get to broccoli again...eat it for a month and not get pains then i'll be at a loss for what was causing the pain unless something in rice chex didn't agree? I also have not re-introduced garbanzo beans yet but black beans don't bother me.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

Unfortunately the first half of my journey gluten free i never stuck to whole foods..i was eating amy's until september etc....so...it's been hard figuring out what my issues are suddenly.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

I can't eat rice chex either (dunno why) and no legumes of any kind, black, garbanzo or green, or lentils or split peas (or green). No corn, no soy, no nightshades, no lemon. We just have to figure out what works for us. :)
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"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." - Albert Einstein

"Life is not weathering the storm; it is learning to dance in the rain"

"Whatever the question, the answer is always chocolate." Nigella Lawson

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Lactose free 1990
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Diagnosed psoriatic arthritis 2004
Self-diagnosed gluten intolerant, gluten-free Nov. 2007
Soy free March 2008
Nightshade free Feb 2009
Citric acid free June 2009
Potato starch free July 2009
(Totally) corn free Nov. 2009
Legume free March 2010
Now tolerant of lactose

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

Mold could be making you sick. If the air vent isn't cleaned then the dust you are breathing in can make you sick. I have found that if there is mold somewhere that I breath in, it makes me very sick.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:48 PM

I don't think it's very common for there to be gluten in laundry detergent. Shampoo and soaps are another matter - I bring my own. 

 

I look for hotels with kitchens, or vacation condos. I am not comfortable eating out very much unless it's at a dedicated gluten-free restaurant. 

 

I bring a roll of tin foil and line any  baking sheets or whatnot before using. The first thing I do when I arrive is re-wash all the dishes and utensils. I don't use the toaster at all. If there are plastic or wooden utensils, I don't use those either. 


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