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carolynmay

Member Since 20 Dec 2007
Offline Last Active Aug 17 2014 06:07 AM
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#834654 Gluten Free Chicken? No Such Thing

Posted by carolynmay on 06 November 2012 - 02:12 AM

I can perhaps add something here as I actually spoke to a chicken farmer about the slaughter process, although I do appreciate that different farms / slaughter houses may adopt different processes.

However, he said that here in the UK at least there are very strict rules that any meat which is spoiled by coming into contact with any fecal matter / digestive tract etc has to be thrown away. He also said that chickens are typically starved for a few hours prior to slaughter to minimise this risk, so there really should not be any partly digested food hanging around in their intestinal tracts.

I do also appreciate what the OP says about gluten on chicken skin though, and don't think that is as ridiculous an idea as others are suggesting. Let's face it - if other foods sat around in wheat and other grain pieces and dust before being hosed off for us to eat we might not be so keen!

Best wishes,

Carolyn
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#824855 Glutened By Vapors

Posted by carolynmay on 21 September 2012 - 10:40 PM

If you react to the smell of toast, and I would assume you mean wheat toast, then you most likely had a psychosomatic reaction. That's what happens with me around strong gluten smells. It happens for many different reasons to people and why anyone would be insulted is.....well..... :blink:

To the newly diagnosed and still in the learning process....do not fear the boiling pasta water! Just don't get it on your food!



No - the reason it isn't psychosomatic is that I don't react at the time - and indeed it's taken me ages to work out what I think the cause is. I react the next day - my system goes into overload and kicks everything out. And it's the same deal when sitting in a room with people eating sandwiches. If it were psychosomatic I would expect to feel ill when I were aware of being in a place of gluten. But actually that doesn't happen and it never occured to me that it might so it certainly wasn't something I was "expecting". I have had to try and work out why I keep getting a bad stomach - and have started to see a pattern of being exposed to (presumably) air-borne / smell of gluten triggers the previous day.

I have been ridiculously careful about avoiding gluten for a couple of years now and basically cook everything myself from scratch to avoid any potential for cross contamination. It's been extremely good for healing the gut, but I am with people who think they become more sensitive the more careful they are I have to say.

I have a degree in Experimental Psychology by the way, and I do know a lot about psychosomatic reactions, but this is not one of them!

Best wishes, Carolyn
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#824735 Glutened By Vapors

Posted by carolynmay on 21 September 2012 - 12:12 PM

I would suggest that we don't know anything like as much as we need to about the way the body recognises and reacts to a substance which triggers an auto-immune response.

Just because there isn't actually "gluten" per se in steam or vapour doesn't mean the body might not recognise the smell or some kind of similarity with what it used to know as the evil gluten that triggered an almighty defense.

I too would be quite insulted at terms like "psychosomatic". I am fairly sure I react to the smell of toast for example. And I know perfectly well that this isn't because there are large gluten protein molecules floating around in the air!

Best wishes to all,

Carolyn
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#753157 Enzymedica Digest Gold And Glutenease - Has Anyone Had Cross Contamination Ty...

Posted by carolynmay on 03 December 2011 - 04:50 AM

Thank you both very much for your responses - which are really interesting.

That is really odd then.. I wonder if it's the aspergillus per se that I am having an issue with.

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOO frustrating as they really help my digestion but with sudden serious joint points and eye twitching (both of which stop within 2 days of stopping taking them), I have concerns as to what is going on.

Out of interest I might post on the "supplements" bit of the forum and see if anyone else has had any issues with them.

Really does start to sound like it may not be a gluten issue, although here is what another manufacturer of aspergillus derived digestive enzymes says about the testing:

"The enzymes are produced using aspergillus, and there is always the possibility of the presence of a trace of the substrate fed to the aspergillus to produce the relevant enzyme. You might find animal-source digestive enzymes more suitable for your situation."

Thanks so much again, Carolyn
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