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fig girl

Member Since 13 Apr 2008
Offline Last Active Nov 24 2009 10:08 AM

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In Topic: Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)

11 November 2009 - 07:39 PM

Lucky girls! All I really seem to tolerate as far as fruit goes are lemons...which I sweeten with stevia to make lemonaide. I keep wondering if it is or is not a fructose allergy... I am actually OK these days with (gads!) brown rice! If it was just candida et al I am betting this would not be the case.


Hi Bea,
I'm similar to you also....no fruit for me right now. Not even lemons...the last time i tried them they irritated my stomach but with me switching to the lower SCD carbs my tummy feels much better so i hope i'm healing more and soon will be able to tolerate some of the non-sweet fruits.

I hope your new regime is helping you heal more! I've seen your new thread and will come visit over there too if you don't mind since you may not see this. :)


In Topic: Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)

11 November 2009 - 07:22 PM

Hi Michelle,

Thanks! :)

Yes, grape fruit was my main fruit the first many months. I'd either peel it and eat it as an orange, or more often, blend it with water for a pulpy and very fresh juice. Sometimes I'd add cucumber or other greens for a really healthy cocktail. Strangely, despite its sweetness I've always also been able to digest pineapple, and it even seems to have a good effect on me; I think it's because it contains the enzyme bromelain. Papaya sounds like a good choice, they're easy on the stomach - they're hardly ever available in Denmark where I am now, but when in the US, I eat them. I've developed an allergy to melons, but if you can tolerate watermelon it's such a wonderful fruit that's normally very easy to digest. I also have kiwis, and in smaller amounts raspberries and blueberries. More recently, I've been able to add strawberry, mango, and grapes, but these are sweeter so be careful with these, particularly the grapes, until you can manage more fructose.

And remember, whichever the fruit, it's much easier to digest on an empty stomach so have it alone - or before rather than after a meal.

As to water with baking soda and salt, I hope Ali can chip in?

Hope you get better!

Thanks Jan!
I appreciate the non-sweet fruit suggestions and info. I bought a papaya the other day and am waiting for it to ripen before i try it - i've got to remember to try it alone...thanks! From me following a low carb SCD diet the last 3 weeks I've noticed more die-off symptoms than when just starting SCD i think because i consumed carrots, bananas and goat yogurt from the beginning. I'm thinking the higher carb SCD legal foods were keeping the candida/yeast going. The first week of my recent new regime i felt fatigue, had a few headaches, irritability, joint pain and foggy brain, etc. but my stomach very quickly stopped hurting. Maybe the high carb foods were causing the gastritis/stomach erosion from feeding the candida.

I tried a little tiny taste of coconut oil the 2nd week and felt more joint pain, fatigue, fogginess so i think it just creates a big die-off reaction. I've also tried stir-fried cabbage and the same day i had stopped the carafate (w/illegal sorbitol) and i developed a rash on my wrists. Sorry if i've already mentioned this in my previous post also. From what i've read rashes can be caused by die-off. It could have been a reaction to completely stopping the carafate or a combination of both. I know when i started the carafate i would periodically get hot, itchy feet and hands at night. This rash comes at night also and my feet and hands will itch at the same time. It happened the same time every night for a while but now it's still at night but not quite the exact same time. I've also soaked in an epsom salt bath a few times and when i got out (first one was the worst) i had the itchy feet and hands and the rash on my wrists up the inside of my arms, abdomen and upper thighs.

Evidently it's taking me to only eat the very low carb SCD foods to start killing the beasties. I've felt better and can tell it's helping me. Tonight i tried 1 T of steamed then pureed cauliflower with a little olive oil so i'll see how that goes. The rash has appeared and i'm itchy but that's been happening pretty much every night - sometimes worse than others. Hopefully my tummy will feel ok with the cauliflower.

I found some seagate olive leaf extract capsules at one of the health food stores and it says it has no fillers or anything else so i think it'll be ok. I'll wait a little longer since i seem to be having pretty big die-off reactions.

Hopefully i'm making some progress! Fingers crossed! Oh and i found where i had read about the baking soda in water (on healingbybee or pecanbread - can't remember exactly) but it states the baking soda buffers the acid - it does seem to help me.

Hope you're still doing well! :)


In Topic: Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)

04 November 2009 - 07:26 PM

Just read up a bit further back, and

- Michelle, as to an SCD-legal olive leaf extract, I'm not sure. But personally, I'm taking the Vitamin Shoppe's liquid one, and though I'm so hypersensitive to everything, this one agrees perfectly with me (tried one once where the extract was alcohol-based and that was a disaster).

I've found that one great way to stay hydrated is through eating loads of water-rich foods, like cucumber or iceberg salad, non-sweet fruits (grape fruits fx) - and in particular to ingest these before any 'water-scarce' foods such as meat etc. This is because the more water a food holds, the faster it is digested, thus not to clogg up the system the order of the foods is important. Since most water rich foods contain lots of useful enzymes, ingesting them first will also aid the digestion of all other foods (see also the principles/explanations in the book 'Fit for Life').


Thanks Jan! I may try to find just the dried olive leaf first before the extract - i'm so hypersensitive also. I have some coconut oil so i'll try it later this week or the GSE.

What non-sweet fruit were you able to digest first or is easiest for you to digest? I'm trying to figure out which non-sweet fruit to try first - white grapefruit maybe? I looked for papaya the other day in the grocery store but didn't see any.

I always feel better and am less constipated when i ingest more water throughout the day. I've been putting a pinch of baking soda in my water along with the sea salt to help with my ph balance and it seems to work - does this seem ok to do?

Glad you're feeling and doing better Jan!

In Topic: Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)

04 November 2009 - 07:06 PM

Good to see you here Michelle. Sounds like you are doing some good sleuthing!

These days I am liking the olive leaf tea or olive leaf extract capsules best as antifungals as well as anti virals, anti bacterials and anti microbials. That and Neem leef and neem oil. Both trees seem to have similar principals. Kills the fungus and virus etc. without harming the human being so much as most other solutions--though the impact of the fungal etc. die off can be a little overwhelming, especially at first--so start slow! A word of warning... Though soon enough you may find you have an extra spring in your step if you stick with them!! Lately I have combined these two herbs due to a horrific experience with antibiotic induced fulminant colitis.

I also have had to resort to using enterically coated acidophilus. I like the NOW brand best when taking capsules overall since they are generally gluten free. I found through this experience that The 24 hour yogurt continued to be very good--but not quite enough to combat the colitis--despite what Elaine Gottschall said in her book-- thus the entericallyl coated acidophilus to make sure it repopulates the gut. Though to its creditd, the yogurt probably kept my intestines from turning into some kind of septic factory despite the fact the intestinal lining was sloughing off!!

I also thus needed(and still need) to take the marshmallow root to soothe and heal the inflamed and deteriorated lining of my gut. Again despite what EG said. I am now actually taking pectin mixed with fresh ground flax seed. Both entirely non SCD approved for the same reasons!! However necessary fjor me right now. I prefer to be observant as to what actually works for me and others that I observe and be open minded and not doctrinaire in whatever approach I take. Though there are those who actually are allergic to complex sugars and thus cannot tolerate anything mucilaginous. Apparently there is even a test one can take to determine what sugars one can or cannot tolerate. I may be actually allergic to fruit sugar for instance. At some point when I have it more together I want to get tested for it.

Unlike what you are planning, I do tend to eat some squash each day. Not a lot, but enough. I have to make sure I don't eat too much meat due to my already degraded right kidney. Fortunately the 24 hour yogurt is very agreeable even to my kidneys. Plus somehow I handle eating quite a few sunflower seeds... Just have to make sure I eat plenty of green vegetables. Nothing quite like them for balancing the ph! If you can tolerate them raw, making a smoothie out of green veggies (etc.) is a quick pick me up!! Even there however I might add some zuchinni however...just to balance the energy. Right now though, with a degraded but recuperating gut, cooked veggies is de riguer! PLus the Chinese say, cooked veggies generally are better during the cold weather seasons than the raw.

Your plan of two weeks without starchy anything doesn't sound too awfully rough for most people and probably is a great way to help combat the yeasties...


PS--my celtic sea salt I ordered online will be arriving sometime next week. I am looking forward to experimenting with making the Sole as well as using the more natural highly mineralized tan colored sea salt. I used it in the past and liked it, but never tried the Sole before... Even got a special salt grinder too...the white sea salt is always caking and hard to get out of the container.

Thanks for the info Bea! I may check with a Health food store that might carry the olive leaf that i can make the tea with or grind it into a powder - i think you had wrote in another post that it may be more effective to make the tea with the powdered olive leaf. She carries dried herbs - i'll check to make sure nothing was added to them. I have coconut oil and GSE so i'll try those first.

I am feeling more clear minded and more energetic eating the low carb SCD foods. I guess I am pretty consumed with candida/yeast since it's taking eating only these foods to make a difference. Tomorrow will be 2 wks since i started it and i feel like this second week i've made good progress. The first week i had some die off symptoms (headache, irritability, itchy rash on wrists - i think the rash was a die off symptom or a side effect from stopping the carafate). I've read where some people have a rash from die off.

If i can't find the celtic or himalayan salt at the nearby health food store i'll order on line also. I may have to try the Sole too. I hope it helps you - let us know how it goes!

In Topic: Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD)

27 October 2009 - 02:22 PM

Great info. about the salt! I've been using sea salt and drinking purified water for a few years also Bea but in the last month or so started putting it in my 40 oz klean kanteen that i take to work with me. My allergies had flared up a while back and i did a search on here and found a post where Ali mentioned doing that can help allergies and it did! I've also been adding a pinch of baking soda along with the salt to try to alkalize - i used the hydrion paper to check my urine a few times and i'm pretty acidic. I've cut out bananas and carrots about 5 days ago and i'm only doing chicken, fish, bison and beef and low carb green veggies that i know i tolerate (asparagus, broccoli, romaine lettuce) for about 2 weeks. My stomach felt better pretty quickly after eliminating the bananas and carrots (higher carbs) so i'm pretty sure candida is my problem (i have many other symptoms also). I've also read gastritis can be caused by candida overgrowth which i'm still taking the carafate liquid my Dr. prescribed (with illegal sorbitol) but i've cut way back on it and my stomach still feels good so i'll be eliminating it soon i hope.

I still have some sea salt without iodine that i'm using but it's not celtic and Pele had mentioned the celtic sea salt a while back and i want to get that or the himalayan - i'm just not sure which would be better for me. Dr. Oz had mentioned himalayan salt being really good for you on his show not too long ago.

Now that i've cut out the higher carbs i don't get as hungry and maybe i can cut back a little on the animal protein to help with the acidity. I figure i'll do the low carb diet for 2 weeks and then try to add an anti-fungal maybe once or twice a week. I have some Grapefruit seed extract i'll try first - i know i need to go slow on the anti-fungals. Any recommendations on where to buy SCD legal oregano oil or olive leaf extracts? I'll try coconut oil again also - maybe that's why it didn't really agree - stirred up the baddies.

Ali and Bea - glad to see you're feeling better!


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