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Interpreting Your Celiac Genetic Results

03 May 2014 - 12:47 PM

This seems to come up a fair amount, thus I thought it might be helpful to have a collection of relevant information all in one spot. [If you are only looking to interpret your results, skip down to the asterisks.] 


Per current knowledge, if you do not possess any of the celiac genes you are not considered to be at risk for developing the disease at any point in your life. It is for this reason that doctors have begun testing for the genes more and more in situations where the diagnosis is unclear, or to establish risk in family members of persons with the disease. However, there have been rare cases where people have been found to be suffering from celiac disease despite not having the genetics to support the diagnosis. And if that is not confusing enough, the University of Chicago Celiac Disease center acknowledges that it is not impossible to have Dermatitis Herpetiformis (DH - the celiac rash) without the celiac genes, as well:


"Is it possible to have dermatitis herpetiformis (DH) without having the genes for celiac disease?

It's extremely unlikely to have dermatitis herpetiformis (DH) without the genes for celiac disease, but not impossible. (http://www.curecelia...iformis/page/2)


So, doctor's frequently are using genetic tests as a means to rule-out celiac disease. There is one main issue with doing this: the comprehensiveness of testing is widely variable! Some physicians test for all of the celiac-related genes, while others only look for one variation.


Essentially, if you do not have the celiac genes but have reason to suspect you are suffering from celiac disease, pursue further testing (via blood and/or endoscopy) prior to going gluten free.


***To the nitty gritty... 


More often than not (especially if you ordered the tests through your doctor), you'll end up with a piece of paper with lots of numbers and the words present or absent after them. What does it all mean? Briefly,




HLA-DQA1 *0501 + HLA-DQB1 *0201 = HLA-DQ2.5. (A1 and B1 simply refer to different parts. They are alternatively referred to as the alpha and beta portions) This is the most common haplotype found in celiacs, although it is also very prevalent in non-celiacs as well: up to 30% of the US population (higher in Europe) might have the A1 and/or the B1 portion of this haplotype! It is thought to confer the highest risk, especially when the individual is homozygous (possesses two copies).


HLA-DQA1 *0201 + HLA-DQB1 *0202 = HLA-DQ2.2. This haplotype occurs in lower frequencies across the world and is also less common in celiacs. It is thought to confer a potentially 'lower disease risk'. It is important to note that low risk does not equal no risk: this haplotype can mediate celiac disease by itself. Sometimes the A1 or B1 portion of DQ2.2 combines with the A1 or B1 portion of DQ2.5 which confers a marginally higher risk than DQ2.2 alone.


HLA-DQA1 *0302 + HLA-DQB1 *0202 = HLA-DQ2.3. As far as I know, DQ2.3 is very similar to DQ2.2. The tests do not often differentiate between the two. 


As mentioned above, HLA-DQ2.5 and HLA-DQ2.2 (their alpha and beta portions) may combine with each other in any number of amalgamations, or they may independently combine with other celiac genes (DQ8, DQ7.5), or genes unrelated to celiac disease (DQ5, DQ6,...).




HLA-DQA1 *0301 OR HLA-DQA1 *0302 + HLA *0302 = HLA-DQ8.1 DQ8 is a less frequent variation worldwide, and thus it is also occurs in smaller numbers within the celiac population. 96+% of celiac's have some form of DQ2 or DQ8.


Just like DQ2.5 and DQ2.2 may union with other celiac gene variations, DQ8 can do the same thing.




Some celiac genetic tests report on DQ7 and others don't. If they do, it is almost always the alpha portion of DQ7.5:


HLA-DQA1 *0505. This is part of DQ7.5 and may combine with HLA-DQB1 *0202 (2.2) to raise the risk of celiac in a similar way as HLA-DQ2.5 does. Or, it may combine with HLA-DQB1 *0201 (2.5), which also raises the risk [marginally]. DQ7 can be involved in celiac disease separate from DQ2 as well, but the relationship is not quite as well known as in DQ2 or DQ8.


In short:


If you have any of the variations under the DQ2 or DQ8 headings, you have a celiac gene. This, however, does not mean you have or will develop the disease. Up to 40% of the US population possesses a celiac gene, but only 1% will go on to develop the disease. Listed below are a few things that will further raise your likelihood [non-comprehensive]:

  • Having an immediate family member with the disease.
  • Having Type 1 Diabetes.
  • Having autoimmune thyroid disease.
  • Having a different autoimmune disease, yourself.

Also: a genetic test is not fully comprehensive unless and until it includes all of the alpha and beta variations of DQ2 and DQ8 (listed under their constituent headings above). I am hesitant to include DQ7 in the former statement as I feel there is still more research to be done to further elucidate its involvement with celiac disease. If your genetic results reveal that certain celiac genes are absent, but not all of the variations were tested, you can conclude that your risk of celiac is lower (because it is less likely you will have the more uncommon gene variations), but not non-existant. Gene testing can be a very helpful tool, but rarely the be-all and end-all.


I so hope this was helpful to read through! Thanks and best wishes,

Ninja  :ph34r:


A few "extras":


For those interested: HLA = Human Leukocyte Antigen. HLA is found on a portion of the Major Histocompatibility Complex (MHC) located on chromosome 6. The MHC is frequently discussed/implicated in autoimmune diseases because it houses a large quantity of genes integral to the functioning of the immune system. DQ is a receptor type protein. Roughly, DQ2 and DQ8 can produce a specific kind of protein that, when 'turned on', may begin binding to gliadin (gluten). This bound protein is what the body reacts to, therefore resulting in the autoimmune response characteristic of celiac disease.


The wikipedia page has a nice table which lists all of the DQ types – very helpful for interpretation of non-celiac related genes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HLA-DQ


More explanation of the role of DQ7 in celiac: http://celiacdisease...l/g/Hla-Dq7.htm


DQ9 has been associated with celiac in asian populations. I am not sure if the studies have been replicated as of yet or where they are in their research on this: http://celiacdisease...l/g/Hla-Dq9.htm

Returning Symptoms – Was Never Officially Dx'd

21 June 2013 - 04:55 PM

Hi everyone,


I'm looking for some advice. Brief history for those who do not know it: I went to see a N.D./M.D. in October 2011 after realizing that my constant illness, fatigue and intestinal issues were not normal. At that time I was on an anti-inflammatory and nasal steroid. The doc ordered a full Celiac panel which came back negative. I went gluten free in February of 2012 and the results were incredible. Saw a GI doctor in March 2012 who wanted me to go back on gluten for an endoscopy and colonoscopy. I refused.


I went for a check-up this past February with the same GI doctor and he was so amazed with my progress that he was ready to call it Celiac right there and then. We ordered the genetic test to confirm, but it was negative. I have not seen him since receiving those results so I have no idea what is actually written on my chart.


For the past month or two I have been declining. I've gone back to getting (to a lesser extent) frequent "D", GI pain, mild reflux, bloating and gas, joint pain, brain fog and fatigue. I am exhausted. At first I blamed it on stress, and it very well could be as I have been juggling a lot lately... but I guess it goes back to me doubting whether my problems were magically solved – as they appeared to be – with the gluten-free diet. 


I could just go back to the doctor, that would be the logical step, but I am afraid of being brushed off as just another IBS patient (I don't think anyone should be!). So, crazy as it sounds, here I am contemplating whether or not to head to Mayo in MN (about 4 hours away) even though I haven't exhausted the tests that my current doctor is probably still wiling to run (SIBO, endo/colonoscopy)!


My vitamin D was also tested last Feb. and turned out to be very low. I tapered off the supplementation for that and I'm wondering if I shouldn't have... It could very well be a nutrient issue... but I wouldn't know because the doctors aren't willing to run the necessary tests! I could say it was CC based on the rash, but I've been battling with iodine lately so.... I don't know. I'm pretty sure all of the symptoms are caused by an increase in inflammation I'm just not sure why there is an increase in inflammation.


So yea, I've boxed myself into a corner and I'm not sure what to do next. The brain fog is not helping.  :ph34r: I know this is probably kinda vague and difficult to answer, but does anyone have any thoughts or ideas?