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#938158 To Test Or Not To Test!

Posted by on 10 January 2015 - 10:22 AM

Yes, the genetic tests just tell you if you are in the higher risk group for getting celiac disease, not if you have it.  Plus it is possible, although quite unusual and rare, to get celiac disease without the DQ2 or DQ8 genes.

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#938078 Newbie Clueless In Pain! Help!

Posted by on 08 January 2015 - 04:07 PM

Welcome to the board.  :)


Many, or even most, diseases seem to have symptoms that are on and off again,  Gall bladder problems and celiac disease are both that way.  It's like our body is trying to make it harder diagnose on purpose.  ;)  I don't know about very much about gall bladder issues (beyond that celiac disease can cause some of the problems) but I do agree that your symptoms could be celiac disease so you might as well get tested.  Keep eating gluten until you are tested and try to get the whole celiac disease panel run:

  • tTG IgA and tTG IgG
  • DGP IgA and DGP IgG
  • total serum IgA (control test)
  • AGA IgA and AGA IgG (older and less reliable tests)
  • endoscopic biopsy
  • dh biopsy (beside rash) - some with dermatitis herpetiformis will not test well in the blood tests

If the problem is caused by non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) these tests will be negative - the only way to diagnose NCGS is by a positive response to the gluten-free diet (over many months).


Good luck.  I hope you find answers soon. It's tough not being at your best when you have youngsters relying on you. Hang in there.

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#937780 Do You Ever Break Down And Eat Gluten Every Once In A While?

Posted by on 03 January 2015 - 02:11 PM

I was at someone's house over the holidays and they were telling me how they had had a celiac over for Xmas dinner and he ate the stuffing and turkey because "it looked too good to pass up.  Now thanks to him our friends don't take the diet as seriously - I felt the mental eye rolls when I wouldn't eat the rice crackers that were mixed in with the regular crackers. 


I know people don't think of it at the time, but cheating really does make the (strict) gluten-free into the joke the media portrays it as.

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#937494 Help With My Test Results Please.

Posted by on 28 December 2014 - 11:58 AM

It's possible that other genes are associated with Celiac I guess, but there has to be some genetic component or it's not Celiac.

There probably are other genetic components that cause celiac disease. We have only known about the DQ2 and DQ8 for a few years now, and doctors agree that approximately 3% of celiacs do not have either of those genes.... It happens. It will be interesting what other links they discover in the next few years.

Welcome to the board, nettinpete. It looks like you belong with us. You have the same positive tests that I had. Hope you are well soon.
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#937412 Feeling Sorry For Myself And Confused.

Posted by on 27 December 2014 - 08:36 AM

It is sometimes hard for people to resume eating gluten for 2-4 weeks  for the endoscopic biopsy, or 8-12 weeks for the blood tests, so we often tell people to get the testing done before going gluten-free - it gets trickier when your appointment is almost 2 months away. Have you had any tests done yet? If you can get all the tests run by your GP, it might be a good idea to resume eating gluten and getting the tests done soon and then you will probably only have to resume gluten for 2-4 weeks for the biopsy. I didn't see how long you have been gluten-free, but if it is only a few days you won't need to resume eating gluten for long (most likely) to get accurate tests. If you were gluten-free for a month, I would eat gluten for a good month before testing.... The shorter amount of time you were gluten-free, the shorter the gluten challenge will probably be required.


If you get the GP to do the testing, get as many tests run as possible.  These are the tests:

  • ttG IgA and tTG IgG (most popular tests - get both done and not just the tTG IgA) - tissue transglutaminase
  • DGP IgA and DGP IgG (newer tests good at detecting earlier celiac disease - get both - it replced the AGA tests) -deaminated gliadin peptides
  • EMA IgA (detects more advanced damage - similar to the tTG igA) - endomysial antibodies
  • AGA IgA and AGA IgG _older and less reliable tests largely replace by the DGP tests) - anti-gliadin antibodies
  • total serum IgA - a control test to ensure you make enough IgA for accurate tests


If you haven't been gluten-free long, consider resuming eating gluten for a time and get the tests done. If you are gluten-free from December to February, you will need a 2 -3 month gluten challenge for accurate tests - why go through that if you don't need to, right?  


Best wishes.   :)

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#937367 Feeling Sorry For Myself And Confused.

Posted by on 26 December 2014 - 02:44 PM

Welcome to the board.  :) The new year is a good time to change your health. I hope 2015 is a good one for you.

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#937201 Why Am I Putting Off The Inevitable?

Posted by on 21 December 2014 - 02:13 PM

In my experience, when we think something is up with our kids, we're usually right. We may not be right about the cause but we know when something is up.


Good luck with the tests.

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#937079 Endoscopy

Posted by on 18 December 2014 - 07:26 PM

I met with the GI today and she asked if anyone had talked to me about my lab results and I told her the nurse said they showed positive for celiac. The GI responded with, "they're not positive, just slightly elevated and we need to do an EGD to rule it out". 

Sooooo.. if she wants to "rule it out". What else would create these lab results if its not Celiac? Just kind of curious what would come next if my biopsy happens to come back negative.

Nothing.  Your results were sky high, you have celiac disease in the family, and you have symptoms - that's celiac disease.  You appear to have a doctor who wants to cross all of their t's and dot all of their i's before they'll sign off on a diagnosis.


About 5% of all positive tTG IgA results are caused by diabetes, crohn's, colitis, thyroiditis, chronic liver disease, or a serious infection BUT it would be a weak false positive - not a positive that is at almost 200.  That's celiac disease.


Slightly elevated... hmph! :rolleyes:

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#936738 Cookie House (Rant)

Posted by on 12 December 2014 - 07:06 PM

I got it!.  Sprinkle Mirilax on the cookies and then proclaim...Welcome To My World  :lol:

LOL!  :lol:  :D   Ooooh! I like you!


Cookies cookies everywhere and nary a crumb to eat. :(  Bring yourself a thermos of Balieys with a bit of flavoured coffee or extra creamy hot chocolate - it might make you feel better, and if you drink enough you won't care anyways.  :)

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#936439 Endoscopy

Posted by on 08 December 2014 - 01:24 PM

:( Ugh.  They do sound confused.  And a colonoscopy on New Year's Eve?  Lucky you.  Bleh.  :wacko:


I would pester them if you can (or get new docs). An endoscopy can easily be done at the same time as the colonoscopy. Two birds with one stone, and all that.  Put the bee in their bonnet about taking at LEAST 6 biopsy samples while they are in there, some docs will only take 2 or 4 if they've got other areas to check out (colon).


Good luck with them!

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#936266 Endoscopy

Posted by on 06 December 2014 - 06:37 PM

I too would advise continuing with a regular diet if you are able.  The biopsy requires a patient to be eating 1-2 slices of bread per day (or equivalent) in the 2-4 weeks prior to the biopsy.  If you are sure the biopsy will not be for a month or so, you could probably cut back on the gluten (some biopsy requirements are only 1/2 a slice of bread a day for 4 weeks) and then maybe increase your gluten as the test date approaches.


Your tTG IgA is very high.  There can be very little doubt that it is caused by celiac disease. About 5% of positives are false positives but they tend to be weak positives and not many times above the upper normal limit.  False positives can be caused by thyroiditis, crohn's, colitis, chronic liver disease, diabetes, or a serious infection... I highly doubt your high result is caused by any of those health issues, and I mentioned all this because with such a high score, some doctors would not require a biopsy. Biopsies are not perfect and can miss up to 20% of all celiacs.  Your doctor wants it for a diagnostic confirmation, but please know that even if it is negative, you still have celiac disease (over 95% certainty).


Make sure the doctor takes at least 6 or more biopsy samples during the endoscopy.  Our intestines has the surface area of a tennis court so it can be easy to miss patchy damage.


Best wishes, and welcome to the board.


Oh, and you should get your children tested. Celiac has a genetic component.  Make sure the doctors run all the tets as kids tend to get false negatives.  Do the tTG IgA, tTG IgG, DGP IgA, DGP IgG, EMA IgA, total serum IgA control test, and maybe the AGA IgA and AGA IgG if the DGP tests are unavailable.

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#936218 L Glutamine Gives Me Diarrhea, I Swear My Body Is Anomaly Just Info For Othe...

Posted by on 05 December 2014 - 05:58 PM

I'm sorry you weren't well.  I've never heard of L-glutamine causing a problem in people.  Are you sure it was the cause and not something else, or even the usual ups and downs that happen in the first half year or so of recovery.


Perhaps try it again in a couple of weeks and see how it goes...

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#935930 How Much Can One Person Take? I've Reached My Limit...

Posted by on 02 December 2014 - 04:57 PM

Excellent.  :)  Good luck with the job!

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#935715 Blood Test Results Questions?

Posted by on 28 November 2014 - 07:33 AM

How likely is it that someone would have a false negative? Is it especially common if someone has a negative IgA result that they would have a positive IgG?

Feel my frustration in wishing I had gotten the IgG panel - UGH!


I've seen different stats than SMRI.  False positives occur very infrequently at a low rate like 1-2% - they almost never happen. On the other hand, false negatives can happen a fair bit. The tTG IgA has a sensitivity of only 75-95%, so that means that on it's best day it misses 1 in 20 celiacs, and on it's worst day it can miss 1 in 4 celiacs.  While false negatives happen in a minority of cases, they are not rare. I would guess most people joined this site because they had conflicting test results (one test or other ends up negative).


I tend to look at page 12 of the World Gastroenterology Report on Celiac Disease Practices, page 12: http://www.worldgast..._long_FINAL.pdfIt lists each test and how sensitive it is as well as how specific to celiac disease it is.


And don't kick yourself for not knowing the tests, most of us didn't - I know that I did not.  I had the exact same tests run as you but they came up positive.  I then had my kids tested because 2 of 3 had some symptoms and they were all negative. Lo and behold, when I put them on a gluten-free diet their symptoms cleared up... What a coincidence, eh?  LOL ;) I assume they have celiac disease, with a mom who has it, but at this point, we can't know because the doctors here wouldn't give them any other test but the tTG IgA, and the EMA IgA if the first was positive (which it wasn't).


You're educating yourself now, and that is the important thing.  :)  Best wishes.

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#935658 Getting Kiddos Tested?

Posted by on 26 November 2014 - 07:33 PM

I just got my kids tested and my daughter got a positive result, my son did not. I will make sure to get him tested every 2 years, I didn't know about that, I thought he was good for the long run.


Yes, celiac disease can show up at any age so he'll have to continue to keep an eye out for it even as an adult.

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