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Chaff

Member Since 26 Nov 2012
Offline Last Active Jul 19 2014 08:32 PM
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In Topic: Legumes

19 July 2014 - 08:31 PM

Hi Dilettantsteph -- thanks for your reply.  I should clarify that I'm not posting here on this for me.  I'm posting this because a lot of folks online are suggesting just washing the beans to magically remove the gluten, while Jane Anderson is saying that trace amounts may remain.  I just want to point that out in case there are other sensitive folks like me out there wondering why they are sick.  I have a separate post (the one I linked to) on my own problems.  No one responded there and I suspect the sensitive folks don't check that forum too often.  But it's OK.  (You know, I actually did email Ms. Anderson on this a few weeks ago, but so far no reply.  Oh well. It's OK.)

 

Anyway, I think Jane Anderson meant that testing would still find the gluten:

 

However, informal experiments using home gluten testing kits show it's not that easy to get rid of the contamination — some seems to remain behind, despite your best scrubbing efforts.

The problem is, gluten is a very sticky molecule, and it's just not very responsive to washing. Friends who also happen to be scientists have experimented with this, and have found you can lessen — although not eliminate — the gluten cross-contamination in beans by washing them repeatedly in water with dish soap, and then rinsing.

http://celiacdisease...race-Gluten.htm

Sounds like her scientist friends are actually doing the ELISA test here to confirm results. I ordered some of those tests and some certified gluten-free Eden Food canned beans, and I suggest anyone eating beans from any source other than one where they know how it was harvested (their own garden or a small farmers' they have spoken to) do the same, and not rely on just washing.


In Topic: Legumes

17 July 2014 - 06:56 PM

For what it's worth, I suggest getting a gluten-free testing kit and checking to see if your beans are safe after washing.  It's the only way to be sure.

 

Jane Anderson at About.com claims that washing (soap or no) does not really remove the gluten: http://celiacdisease...-Free-Beans.htm

 

I'm inclined to agree.  Most beans are not totally smooth surfaces, so some gluten bits are likely to cling despite washing, unless you are tumbling them in a rock polisher.  But if a few trace bits do cling after soaking and washing, and then you boil the beans, you are boiling all of it in glutened water.  I'm also worried that tiny amounts may gluten the water that the beans absorb when you soak them.  

 

Some people will do OK with washing, because either their beans really are gluten free, or the tiny bit of gluten isn't bothering them.  But you can't know until you test it yourself.

 

I have a bunch of dried beans from Rancho Gordo I got before being diagnosed, and I'm waiting for my gluten-free test kits to arrive before I dive back in.  In the meantime, Eden Foods tests their own beans and a subset of their beans (dry and canned) are certified gluten-free to 10 ppm: http://www.edenfoods...?articles_id=85  Nuts.com also claims some are gluten-free, but Jane Anderson says they aren't testing rigorously -- there may be some cc from harvesting.

 

I think that if you do OK with just washing beans, fantastic.  If you're still having problems, go for a certified option.  

 

(I know this is an old post, but I have beans on the mind right now, and others having problems may do searches and come across this.)