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Member Since 11 Jan 2013
Offline Last Active Feb 25 2013 09:18 AM

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In Topic: (16 Mos Old) Introducing Gluten Back Into Diet For Testing, Potential Hospita...

25 February 2013 - 07:48 AM

With the reactions this little guy has it is inconcievable to me that a doctor would want to do this to him. Can you find another doctor with some common sense who might give you an 'official' diagnosis based on his symptoms and the resolution of them on the diet? There is no way I would do this to my child but ultimately the choice is yours alone to make. Do keep in mind that even after the challenge he may have negative test results. Ask yourself what you will do if that happens. Will you put him back on a gluten diet? If the answer is no then I would tell the doctor to take a long walk off a short pier.


Yes, this is our greatest fear.... that he will be severely sick for a month, have the test done and it comes back negative.



My current doctor has agreed to consider me a patient who avoids gluten, or gluten- intolerant, or "allergic" to gluten, for the purpose of dispensing medications, etc, on my records, after I told him hell would freeze over before I would ever be forced to consume it again (after 5+ years off of it, and a resolution of many chronic symptoms).  While this does not give me an official seal of celiac diagnostic approval, it does go along with the medically verified other test results I had, quite visible to the naked eye bone loss,  (my c- spine looked shocking) and brain lesions, aka "bright spots,"  which showed on a scan, which are consistent with the neurological form of celiac/gluten intolerance/whatever the "experts" want to call it this week.  I have subsequently told medical people I_Am_Gluten_Intolerant_NO WHEAT GRAIN FAMILY_Do_Not_Give_Me_Exposure_To_It, and have never been questioned on it.  The only 2 other situations I could think of possible impact would be in a boarding school, (hypothetical, too old) where, since I have other allergies anyway, it would be treated as just - another - food -allergy, or a work situation, where, since I would not take a job whereby I could not pack a meal & snacks if I needed one, it's moot.  "Allergies"-  mold, dust, ragweed, wheat rye barley (and a few others...)  Not the end of the world.  I trade off the technical accuracy of it is really some sort of auto immune reaction, for the inaccurate form of understanding by the general public, which can protect me better in these circumstances.  There is no question I have auto immune stuff, closely associated with it, I've been previously diagnosed with it, even if the one stupid HMO attempted to "fibromyalgia" me.  


Since it is an observable phenomena that the child gets severe symptoms when ingesting gluten, then that may have to be it.  


There is no reason that any doctor shouldn't be willing to scope a small child right now, who is displaying such symptoms, even if the test came back negative, which could happen anyway even if he WAS put back on gluten for an extended period of time, the end result is going to be the same-  he isn't going to be eating gluten anymore.  Unless you continue to feed it to him and make him sick.  Which would be illogical and inadvisable.  But a baseline scope should be done anyway.   The entire concept of sickening a tiny, defenseless child deliberately and drastically, for diagnostic purposes only, needs to be revisited on ethical grounds, in my opinion.  I believe in the future they will come up with a better way to diagnose celiac, just as a result of this supposed medical "cure" or "treatment" that these researchers are currently working on.  


The diagnostic guidelines for an official diagnosis are typically given for medical insurance reimbursement purposes in the USA, specifying doctors can't do (hypothetical) needed procedures #2 and #3 unless the first procedure #1 gives a certain result.  They go ahead and scope some people and children who do not test bloods positive, if the symptoms upon ingestion of gluten are still severe enough....  so what is the hold- up, really ?  


They are only willing to scope him after a MINIMUM of 4 weeks on a gluten diet.  We say the same - the end result is the same: if it's negative, he won't have gluten... if it's positive, he won't have gluten.

Yes, we are just now joining the frustration with (lack of) testing options...



If a parent persists in feeding a child something that that child is intolerant of to the point of being ill, who do you think the docs would be calling???  But it is ethical and legal for them to demand it be done, to get a diagnosis???


I know, it doesn't at all seem right to be able to say "well, I know that forcing your toddler to eat gluten will make them sick and potentially hospitalize him, but go ahead and do it and we will do a test that may or may not be accurate."  :(

In Topic: (16 Mos Old) Introducing Gluten Back Into Diet For Testing, Potential Hospita...

25 February 2013 - 06:46 AM

Thanks, everyone.  We already drive more than 2 hours to a "good" specialist, which is why we even considered this in the first place.  But even being new to the whole celiac world, my husband and I knew that this couldn't be the only option for diagnosis.

In Topic: (16 Mos Old) Introducing Gluten Back Into Diet For Testing, Potential Hospita...

19 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

My suggestion is that you , or even better, the doctor, email the experts. Dr. G is actually a ped doctor, I think. I'm thinking they may tell you he is too young to produce enough antibodies. If that is the case, it will save you from doing it twice - now and a couple of years along.



I didn't even know this was possible - to be too young to produce the antibodies necessary to get a positive diagnosis through antibodies.

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