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Safe Wines For Super- Sensitive People?

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When I was looking at wines yesterday I noticed some stating that they were unoaked. I also heard someone asking about a wine and being asked if she preferred unoaked. Is that a gluten thing referencing the use of barrels?

No. Some people don't like the flavor oak imparts to a wine.

http://www.winespectator.com/drvinny/show/id/5273


 

 

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Talk about a fast response!  Interesting about how the quotes show our local time zone while the posts show California's time zone.

Just happened to be on and that was one thing I know about!

My posts & quotes show my KC time zone. I think there is something you have to set in your profile area? It was still showing central time for some things when I was in Colorado... But Colorado time for others. But I didn't pay much attention.


 

 

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Interesting about how the quotes show our local time zone while the posts show California's time zone.

The posts reflect the time zone in your user settings. If you have not set one, or are not logged in, the default is California time, since the board is based in Santa Rosa, CA. A quote will show the time zone of the member who quoted the post. I post in Eastern time, but if somebody in Chicago quotes me, the time in the quote will be Central time.

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Went and bought frey wine..its very nice to have a glass without fear! Wish it wasnt so hard to find more..but ill take what I can get! #havefreywilltravel

I was thinking about it myself.  How was it?  Which one did you try?  Did you find it locally?

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Passover wines are grain free.

 

Keep in mind that intestinal mastocytosis is commonly accompanied by other gastrointestinal conditions.  One common symptom of mastocytosis is intolerance to alcohol.


Celiac & Mastocytosis

Follows a diet similar to the Paleo diet, minus high-histamine items such as

avocadoes, mangoes, papaya, berries, pork, farm-raised fish, spinach, and seeds.

No eggs or red meat either.

 

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I'm not sure why, but red wine seems to be very bad for me. I can't work out why, I am fine with whites, champagne, cider, other spirits. But for some reason, if I have a couple of glasses of red I will puke all night long. I don't think it is gluten related, but I'd love to know why it happens!


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I'm not sure why, but red wine seems to be very bad for me. I can't work out why, I am fine with whites, champagne, cider, other spirits. But for some reason, if I have a couple of glasses of red I will puke all night long. I don't think it is gluten related, but I'd love to know why it happens!

You are probably reacting to the tannin that can be found in the skin, seeds and stems of the grapes. Red wines have more. I love red wine, but it does not like me. It really triggers my Rosacea!


Non-functioning Gall bladder Removal Surgery 2005

Diagnosed via Blood Test (DGP IgA only) and Endoscopy: March 2013

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Allergies and Food Intolerances

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You are probably reacting to the tannin that can be found in the skin, seeds and stems of the grapes. Red wines have more. I love red wine, but it does not like me. It really triggers my Rosacea!

I hear you!  If I drink wine I turn into Rudolf within minutes!


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I haven't verified it, but i read on another site that people with celiac may react to some wines (especially French) because they still use a wheat-paste to seal the casks during fermenting. Might be worth researching, just haven't gotten to it as I don't drink a lot of wine.

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There may be some vineyards that do this, especially in Europe where the wine making is centuries old.  However, I drink wine on a regular basis and love the French Rhone wines.  I have never, ever had a problem with any wine I have drunk and I am extremely sensitive to small amounts of gluten.  I would not be doing as well as I am right now if there were detectable amounts of gluten in wine.  There are many reasons why people may react to wine, including sulfites and the fact their gut may not be healed enough to handle wine/alcohol yet. I couldn't drink alcohol for the first 3 years of recovery.  Thank goodness that is no longer true.....  ;)

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I know this topic is a little old but I thought I'd respond anyway! I have reacted to several red wines & I am very sensitive to cross contamination. In my research there are a few things I discovered about wine making. Some one already mentioned sealing the barrels with a wheat paste, but many wine barels were used before for grain based alcohols, along with some "oaked" wines are using old barrels chopped up. If a barrel has ever been used for anything grain based then I am in trouble! Most whites wines use steel barrels and they can be cleaned better than wood. I have had great success in drinking Frey wines but they are hard to find, although if you live in a state that you can have alcohol delivered to you, then you can order from there website.

On a side note Ocean vodka is certified gluten free and I have had no reaction to it either.

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Wine is good. I stick to unoaked primarily, to be ultra-safe, have been gluten free since 2006 and am hyper- sensitive to the evil gluten!  I like Barefoot wines but, after reading much research, I am pretty certain any reaction to lovely wine is due to something other than gluten. 

wine actually helps a reaction for me, by the way!

Best luck in healing to you!

lisa

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On 3/25/2014 at 1:28 PM, Gemini said:

Wines are inherently gluten free and I have never seen one labeled as such because you don't have to label a naturally gluten free product.  Most people, if they react, are not healed yet or are reacting to something else, like sulfites.  I drink red wine often and am very sensitive......never had a problem.  I have no issue with sulfites, either. I could not drink any alcohol at all, pre-diagnosis or until I had healed.  I was a late starter to red wine.  :)

 

I am sure some poeple think there is gluten in some wines but any reputable celiac organization says no, they are safe.  Booze is tricky....people can have weird reactions to any of it for differing reasons but no need to worry about gluten.

This is not necessarily true! I love wine and for the last 6 months or so been drinking it on the daily. My labs came back elevated with the only dietary change being the frequency of wine intake. 
 

in doing further research, I’ve come to learn that (in some cases) gluten is used during the dining process. Also, a wheat paste is generally used to line and seal oak barrels. This is why they do not have the gluten-free certification, not because it’s grapes. In order to be gluten-free certified the product must be free from all gluten, even trace amounts and cross-contamination. Ever read a container of nuts? They are naturally gluten free but most processed in facilities with wheat (among other things). Meaning they may share the same conveyor belts and become cross-contaminated.

Learning this really busy my bubble and now I’m doing more research and searching for truly gluten-free wines. Good luck!

 

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1 hour ago, Babrbiek11 said:

This is not necessarily true! I love wine and for the last 6 months or so been drinking it on the daily. My labs came back elevated with the only dietary change being the frequency of wine intake. 
 

in doing further research, I’ve come to learn that (in some cases) gluten is used during the dining process. Also, a wheat paste is generally used to line and seal oak barrels. This is why they do not have the gluten-free certification, not because it’s grapes. In order to be gluten-free certified the product must be free from all gluten, even trace amounts and cross-contamination. Ever read a container of nuts? They are naturally gluten free but most processed in facilities with wheat (among other things). Meaning they may share the same conveyor belts and become cross-contaminated.

Learning this really busy my bubble and now I’m doing more research and searching for truly gluten-free wines. Good luck!

 

I would love to know which wineries are actually doing any of this!  Please share your info from the wineries.  All the ones that I have seen that have been asked this and a wine makers association are saying that they don’t put gluten in finished wine or Use wheat paste to seal barrels.  


 

 

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Elevated antibodies after diagnosis are not very accurate.  When I had a repeat endoscopy, I still had very elevated antibodies.  But my biopsies revealed healthy villi.  I was doing a great job of being compliant on my gluten-free diet.  We think my elevated antibodies were due to other autoimmune disorders.  I drink wine.  Not often because I have autoimmune gastritis also,  but I do.  

Antibodies testing is best for helping to diagnose celiac disease.  Doctors use it for dietary compliance because it is the only tool-in-the-toolbox that is non-evasive.  

https://www.beyondceliac.org/q-and-a/follow-up-testing/

Consider another Autoimmune Disease that maybe brewing or  something else (maybe another food or drug) that could be causing elevated antibodies.  Know that it can take over a year or longer for antibodies to drop into a normal range if you were diagnosed within the last year or so.  


Non-functioning Gall bladder Removal Surgery 2005

Diagnosed via Blood Test (DGP IgA only) and Endoscopy: March 2013

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis

Osteopenia/osteoporosis -- June 2013

Allergies and Food Intolerances

Repeat endoscopy/Biopsies: Healed

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