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danblexstl

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My daughter is having issues and they keep labeling it as ADHD. I'm just not buying it.  Plenty of Behavioral issues, but the most obvious thing that happens from time to time is she will get this glazed drunken look and she just can't control herself when that happens. Plus she has major constipation issues into me her behavior seems to get worse when she hasn't gone to the bathroom in a few days. She is now 6 years old.  She has  add some fine and gross motor skill issues.  None that we noticed,  but her teachers did and she has been working with  a  therapist . Let me know your thoughts if you all don't mind. ?

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Has she been diagnosed with celiac disease?  If not, consider getting her tested.  Keep her on a normal diet as celiac disease tests (all of them) require you to be a full gluten diet.  

http://www.cureceliacdisease.org/screening/

ADHD runs in my family.  I would not settle for a quick fix (drugs) until I have thoroughly researched the subject.  Sounds like you are on the right path.  

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I got the ADHD dia at 5.....after the celiac dia in my 20s and the diet....I pretty much blame gluten...I still notice some issues but no longer have to be on meds to function. At least gluten made it worse.
Constipation used to be a huge issue for me to, it is made worse in celiacs by magnesium deficiency, this can also effect motor skills. Do read up on the deficiency. I use Natural Vitality Calm, start her off on 1/4tsp (1-2g) a scale is a lifesaver. Step it up 1-2g a day til she gets loose stools then take it down 2 grams where she stabilizes to normal BMs this is referred to dosing to tolerance.

Get tested first, then after all testing is done you can trial the diet and see if it helps. Some kids have a form of Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity that can manifest itself in behavioral issues (had a panel at a gluten free expo I attended)

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On 8/9/2018 at 12:18 PM, danblexstl said:

Plenty of Behavioral issues, but the most obvious thing that happens from time to time is she will get this glazed drunken look and she just can't control herself when that happens. Plus she has major constipation issues into me her behavior seems to get worse when she hasn't gone to the bathroom in a few days.

Dan,

I second the Magnesium.

Magnesium Citrate will help constipation.

It is also been shown to be important in ADHD patients.

The one Vitamin/Mineral that really helped my ADHD (really) OCD symptom's was Zinc.

Try some Zinc lozenges they will help her focus.

Here is the link on appropriate supplementation for ADHD patients entitled "Iron, Magnesium, Vitamin D, and Zinc Deficiencies in Children Presenting with Symptoms of Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27417479

All these nutrients can be low when we get low in stomach acid.

The doctor's are not checking this first then/when we get low in several vitamins at once and they all support each other.

A good B-complex would be good too!

See here how B-Vitamins can help Celiac's.

https://www.celiac.com/articles.html/celiac-disease-diagnosis-testing-amp-treatment/b-vitamins-beneficial-for-celiacs-on-gluten-free-diet-r1416/

see also this link that notes the appropriate supplementation for celiac's.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24195595

quoting the same nutrients that can help ADHD patients Celiac's also get low in too!

"Reduced levels of iron, folate, vitamin B12, vitamin D, zinc, and magnesium are common in untreated celiac disease (celiac disease) patients probably due to loss of brush border proteins and enzymes needed for the absorption of these nutrients."

Supplementing with some of these nutrients (especially Zinc Lozenges (under the tongue)) helped many of my symptom's.

The Zinc level in your body will self regulate itself taken as sublingual lozenges.

They will become bitter/metalic after a week or two of sucking/eating Lozenges once or twice a day.

Do this for yourself and see if you think they are bitter.  . . that will tell you if you are low in Zinc yourself.

I became low in these  nutrients when I became low in stomach acid.

I did not know to self test for stomach acid the way I do now.

Someone who is extremely low in stomach acid will  have a lot of trouble with CARBS and be bloated all the time especially if they are eating fried things.

Fried and Fatty things delay stomach emptying causing CARBS to ferment.

Here is a good thread about how to self test yourself and your daughter to see how strong you all's stomach acid is.

https://www.celiac.com/forums/topic/122303-extreme-bloat-help/?tab=comments#comment-995238

Usually bloating and burping are axiomatic (at the opposite ends of the spectrum) think a see-saw on the playground (unless you have an ulcer) someone who is extremely bloated almost never burps.  Not carbonated drinks in the first 20 minutes but two hours after a meal a sign our stomach acid is turning over your food and digesting CARBS properly.

And someone who burps every day after each meal (again unless you have an ulcer) is almost never bloated.

A sign a child/baby can now digest whole foods is you go from burping them to them being able to burp for themselves around 6 months of age.

Logical if you stop and think about.

There is a lot more I could say about this topic but this is enough to get you started in the right direction.

Here is a good article on low stomach acid and how to test for it.

https://drjockers.com/5-ways-test-stomach-acid-levels/

****this is not medical advice but I hope this is helpful.

Do try the Zinc lozenges they really helped me and I do 2nd the Magnesium Glycinate or Magnesium Citrate it will  help calm excited nerves and help sleep and tense muscles.

I used to have charlie horses like crazy and magnesium citrate got rid of my cramps.

And Vitamin D (which your doctor can test for) has also been shown to be low in ADHD patients.  Sadly unless some has GI problems most doctor's don't routinely check for Vitamin D levels.

Here is the link to the research entitled "The Relationship between Serum Vitamin D Level and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4670977/

Again I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice just some of the things I did to help me.

We often look for a silver bullet but sometimes' a shot gun approach (of several vitamin/minerals) is better.

Because they all help (each) in their own way. . .and often one support(s) the other.

And why it is good to take the B's as a Complex.

Again I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Good luck on your continued journey.

“Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” 2 Timothy 2:7 this included. 

Posterboy by the grace of God,

 

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