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Is this a positive biopsy?!


ABJ08

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ABJ08 Newbie

I received my biopsy reports from an extensive EDG and Colonoscopy I had to have due to a previous biopsy coming back precancerous. 
 

They took a biopsy to rule out celiac disease however the Google button is making me come to the conclusion it’s positive and I absolutely can not wait till my follow up to find out.

 

the report reads: intact villi are significant for intraepithelial lymphocytes and partial villous blunting of lymphocytes 

Does this mean positive? 


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trents Grand Master

Sounds like what you would find with celiac disease that was not at a super advanced stage since the villi are intact.

RMJ Mentor

Yes, extra intraepithelial lymphocytes and villous blunting are both signs of celiac disease. 

Have you had any of the antibody blood tests for celiac disease?

ABJ08 Newbie

I haven’t had any blood work done for celiac disease since it has never been on my list to look for. I’ve been trying to figure out what’s wrong with me for atleast 10 years now and it wasn’t till having this last EGD with my new gastro doc that it was even brought up so this is all new territory for me.

trents Grand Master

So, in case your gastro doc wants to do the blood antibody tests, you need to continue eating regular amounts of gluten until after the blood draw. The antibody tests usually come first and the biopsy is done for confirmation but just in case . . .

Scott Adams Grand Master

I agree, the biopsy result suggests that there are increased intraepithelial lymphocytes (IELs) present, which is a common finding in celiac disease. The partial villous blunting indicates that there is some damage to the villi, although they are not completely flattened. This combination of findings is consistent with early or mild celiac disease.

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ABJ08 Newbie

So I finally got my results and Im so confused and disappointed I’m back to square 1 of no answers!! Has anyone else dealt with this on the result aspect? 
 

IGg A was 265 ref mg/L 87/352

Tt Iga ab -negative 

bx celiac suggested


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RMJ Mentor

That isn’t a complete blood panel for celiac disease. Can you ask for additional tests? Especially Deamidated gliadin peptide (DGP) IgA?

ABJ08 Newbie

I guess idk what a complete panel would all entail I thought that’s what they were doing since the pathologist for my biopsy stated to do a celiac work up based on what he say. I can see if I can request it however this gastro doc told me “all these test are normal, no need to follow up, follow up as needed” soooo yeah

trents Grand Master

ABJ08, are you sure you typed that "IGg A was 265 ref mg/L 87/352" correctly? "IGg A" is not a familiar abbreviation, though the magnitude of the numbers makes it look like it refers to total IGA. A total IGA test is often run in conjunction with the TTG-IGA because if total IGA is low it will skew the TTG-IGA down toward the negative range.

Question. When the blood draw for these tests was done, had you been eating plenty of gluten on a regular basis?

I would request a more complete celiac antibody panel including DGP-IGA and DGP-IGG.

Scott Adams Grand Master

You can still have celiac disease with negative blood test results: 

Clinical and genetic profile of patients with seronegative coeliac disease: the natural history and response to gluten-free diet:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606118/ 

Seronegative Celiac Disease - A Challenging Case:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441776/ 

Enteropathies with villous atrophy but negative coeliac serology in adults: current issues:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764141/ 

 

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