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Just for fun...

High histamine types tend to:

• Cry easily <----------ALWAYS!!!

• Hear their pulse in their head on the pillow at night <----------not really

• Itch and scratch a lot <-----yes, especially lately

• Have seasonal allergies <-------See "allergic to air"

• Have a low pain threshold with regular headaches and other aches and pains <----------What do I have to compare against?

• Produce excessive mucous <---------yes

• Feel nauseous easily <----------not as much as I used to be

• Have a high sex drive and easy orgasm <----------no, yes, in that order

• Experience inner tension or ‘driven’ feelings <----------yeah....I thought this was stress? :huh:

• Have episodes of ‘blank mind’ <---------yup

• Suffer with depression and sometimes suicidal thoughts <-----Nope

• Have abnormal fears, compulsions, rituals <-------not as much as I used to

• Be a light sleeper or experience severe insomnia <--------I'm a light sleeper

• Appear to tolerate a lot of alcohol or drugs <------Um..I'm a two beer qu..r. I can do hard liquor more than beer (wonder why :rolleyes: ), but still a lightweight

• Have a fast metabolism with high body temperature. <---------That would be nice

• Be of lean build with little body hair <---------HahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHAAAAA

• Have a large nose or ears, long fingers and toes (and often a longer second toe than the first) <------long fingers and toes, second longer than the first, but we have monkey toes in our family

• Have excellent teeth <--------HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAH!!!!!!!!!!

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What do you guys think? Sometimes my head just starts rolling with ideas but most of it's just speculation.

Holy heck, what I think is that you are now our resident Mad Scientist in R-ville.....very good deductions. Much of the time this thread is too technical for me, but also fascinating - I learn a lot but unfortunately can't remember half of it - in that those of you with leaky gut and all these sensitivities have learned SO much, and the hard way, really through your own trial and error and NOT with the help of a doctor, much of the time..... :angry: I just really sympathize and am excited FOR all of you when you find relief (like, eating ice cream! Yay!). I just really hope all of you, and especially our President and Founder, Dr. Rachel, will get to the bottom of it. Just in the last few days we've seen people have to do a freaking WATER CHALLENGE - but look what's happened? they're feeling better.

Speaking of feeling better....ugh..... :mellow: I have been feeling increasingly worse all week, with stranger and stranger poop....could it be my gluten-free oatmeal? I'm eating it 2 to 3 times a week, but tonight, just the most major bloat gas-bomb that I wish would exit my body, and I"Ve felt sick for two days. Could I be not able to tolerate the oats after all? ugh. hope I don't spinach the bed tonight. ;)

Or is the freaking 112 degree heat??? I'm not going outside tomorrow after 10 a.m.

NIece just called, gotta go....

Love you guys

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Histamine, another word to put on the punching bag...

:lol::lol:

I need a bigger punching bag for all my words...

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hope I don't spinach the bed tonight. ;)

:lol::lol:

That is freakin hilarious!!! I cant believe Celia got "spinached" like that!! :lol:

Holy heck yourself Susan!! I wasnt aware you were eating OATS. :blink:

I dont trust them....no way...I tried them and it was not pretty. I dont believe they are safe for everyone....some people still react no matter what they say about the oats being "pure". I'd stop eating them and see if you get better. If you wanna be 100% sure you can do a challenge once you start feeling better. I would not be surprised at all if the oats are causing the trouble.

Holy heck, what I think is that you are now our resident Mad Scientist in R-ville.

:lol::lol:

First I'm President of Rachelville and now this??? :lol::lol:

Only in this thread can this be possible.... :P

I just really hope all of you, and especially our President and Founder, Dr. Rachel, will get to the bottom of it. Just in the last few days we've seen people have to do a freaking WATER CHALLENGE - but look what's happened? they're feeling better.

ROFLMAO

No kidding Susan,

How crazy is that! :blink:

People wandering in here for the first time must think we're freakin nuts! Well...I guess we sort of are.....but that WATER CHALLENGE thing.....that was real!! I cant believe it myself.

Freakin coconut filters.....can you even believe they figured that out....and in like one day they knew all about water filters and their derivatives?? :blink:

OMG...and you're calling me the Mad Scientist??? :o

Okay.. that's it!!! I have to take that spinach part out of my sig... everyone on here is going to think I spinach my bed all the time :lol::lol:

:::click-clack::::click-clack::: back to "Edit signature"

:lol::lol::lol:

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:lol::lol:

OMG.....I just only now for the first time noticed that Mango's name is Meredith!

:blink: Was your name always in your sig? I swear....sometimes I am so oblivious.

I was just thinking the other day "I wonder what Mango's name is?" DUH! :ph34r:

LOL Don't worry, it wasn't always there (it's been there for maybe, four days?), but everyone can still call me Mango if they want :P

ps I have 12 of the 18 high histamine symptoms. Weirrrrd ^_^ <------ I don't really know what this little face means, btw (sleepy guy?)...I just couldn't find one that worked lol

I hope everyone has a wonderful spinach-free evening (er- is "spinached" a good thing? I might have missed that). Keep relevating! B):)

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ROFLMAO

OMG...and you're calling me the Mad Scientist??? :o

:lol::lol::lol:

FIRST of all.....I still don't know what the ROF means in ROFLMAO...somebody advise.... :blink: I might know what the F means but not the RO....

and *I* ain't no stinking mad scientist....you'll note that none of my posts EVER have to do wtih figuring out things like, oh, let's see, root vegetables with a substance called auxigro (never heard of it, much less the legendary geese to detect said chemical), properties of dairy that make you not able to eat it....um, msg added to the stuff you put on crops....what else....see, I'm too stupid to even KNOW how to pretend to talk about it!!! :lol::lol:

I"m just rather goofy, that's all.... ;)

Um, Celia, did I MISS the thing in your signature about spinach!! did you really have that in there, Miss Click Clack?? :lol::lol::lol:

OMG. Is it the oatmeal, even though I ordered them from Glutenfreeoats.com? I nothing happened the first few times....I think.....kind of don't know any more.....poop's been soft for a while now....on and that wicked Mesa Sunrise cereal that I eat the other three days a week....I forgot what is wrong with that - amaranth? I THOUGTH AMARANTH WAS GLUTEN-FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! I'm so confused.

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ps I have 12 of the 18 high histamine symptoms. Weirrrrd ^_^ <------ I don't really know what this little face means, btw (sleepy guy?)...I just couldn't find one that worked lol

Mango, I was just gonna ask you where the heck you got that sleepy face from?? I was wondering how come I dont have him...or the one with all the lovey dovey hearts, or the one that just looks at you blankly....as if to say DUH.

I never knew where people got all these emoticons....perhaps there is an emoticon store somewhere that I know nothing about??

Nevermind...I just figured it out. :ph34r:

OMG...I really am oblivious! :blink:

and *I* ain't no stinking mad scientist....you'll note that none of my posts EVER have to do wtih figuring out things like, oh, let's see, root vegetables with a substance called auxigro (never heard of it, much less the legendary geese to detect said chemical), properties of dairy that make you not able to eat it....um, msg added to the stuff you put on crops....what else....see, I'm too stupid to even KNOW how to pretend to talk about it!!! :lol::lol:

ROFLMAO!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Susan are you mocking me??

:lol::lol::lol:

I bet you're wrong about the "F" :P

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Okay, I'm sleepy but I thought I would take just one little peek in before I fell asleep and found this:

OH dear Gawwwwddd I'm going to spinach myself laughing

Now I can't stop laughing, we are insane, insanely brilliant at having fun. Tears are rolling down my face.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Night all, sweet dreams.

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Mango, I was just gonna ask you where the heck you got that sleepy face from?? I was wondering how come I dont have him...or the one with all the lovey dovey hearts, or the one that just looks at you blankly....as if to say DUH.

I never knew where people got all these emoticons....perhaps there is an emoticon store somewhere that I know nothing about??

By the time I get to the bottom I forgot what I was going to post on so guess I had just better say good night and get this older (cow milking lady) to bed so i can read a few more pages tomorrow. I like your new pic Mango!! will be looking forward to hearing from you from australia. I used to have a computer buddy I would hear from the "gold Coast of australia". He would tell me of intersting things from there, lost track.

:rolleyes: night all :) evie

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Omg, Rachel, I believe you might be on to something! I went to the histamine links you gave us, and I'm trying to apply the relevation to myself.

My family is so allergy-prone it's ridiculous. I have two sisters whom I'll call A. and B. Sister A. is 2 1/2 years younger than I, and sister B. is 9 1/2 years younger. (Don't worry; I'll get to the histamine.)

A. has been depressed all her life, with frequent weeping spells (seemingly over nothing), even as a child. She has pernicious anemia (B-12 deficiency) and will need to have shots the rest of her life. Her abdomen bloats up, and for years she's had to run to the toilet an hour or so after every meal. Other stuff: ultra-sensitive to being touched and sometimes can't bear to take a shower; rosacea, foggy brain, memory problems, sinus problems, allergic to many foods.

B. has rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, strange rashes, some food allergies, painful skin, mysterious painful knots in various places on her body, bloating (belly), and has to run to the toilet about an hour after a meal. (She's been fighting to stay alive for years, but that's from emphysema.)

My mother had msg allergy, bloating, tummy noises, and the oh-so-familiar diarrhea.

When I was five, I had my tonsils removed, and immediately developed allergy-related asthma. (Daddy saw a connection there, and I think he was right. He concluded that there must be some good reason why we have tonsils; it's just that nobody had figured it out yet.) Anyway my asthma was always triggered by something I inhaled. The worst attack in my life came from a visit to the ape house at the zoo.

When I was about twelve, my asthma morphed into terrible hay fever, and a couple of years later I started taking antihistamines. If I remember correctly, they had just become available. (I was born in 1933.) I'll skip over the tests, shots (which helped), etc. I have been taking antihistamines every single day since!

I spent half my life constipated, but no diarrhea until five or six years ago, and it got increasingly worse, until it finally scared me - especially when I went from 96 pounds to 91 in just two or three weeks. An acquaintance of my daughter's at work put me on to this website and to Entero Lab.

Okay, here's the kicker: Does it make sense that it took almost seventy years before I started having some of the same severe intestinal problems that my sisters have suffered from for years and years, BECAUSE OF THE ANTIHISTAMINES? I don't mean to shout, but I haven't figured out how to use the BB Code thingy.

I apologize for being so boring, but I can't sleep, and I feel serious tonight. Rachel, Madame President, our resident medical detective - is this possibly a link in your chain?

Cissie

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Susan,

BTW....I thought it was hilarious that your instructer wasnt too impressed with your "art". :lol:

He obviously doesnt "get" it.

It reminded me of when I was taking sewing in high school. I've said it before but I'll say it again....I'm no Susie home-maker....thats for sure. I dont even know why I was in a sewing class to begin with....what I really needed to be taking was cooking! Maybe if I'd of done that...I wouldnt have had to live off Big Macs all these years. I wouldnt be here all broken and having to transform myself into a mad scientist learning about quantities of Auxigro in root vegetables. :blink: See how this one mistake I made in high school led me here??

Whoa...I got way off track there with my thoughts. :rolleyes:

Anyways, in sewing class...I never actually made anything....well, I made stuff but nothing like what the other students made. They made clothing...I made hair scrunchies....LOTS of hair scrunchies! For every project assigned...they would make shirts, skirts, pants...whatever....I just made scrunchies. :D

I would gather up everyones scrap material and make more and more scrunchies. OMG...I had the hugest collection of scrunchies in all different fabrics and colors. I thought it was awesome but the teacher....she just didnt "get" it. <_<

I think I barely passed the class....I got some credit for at least making stuff.....even if it was the same thing everytime. :lol:

I still have some of my scrunchies though. :D

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Okay, here's the kicker: Does it make sense that it took almost seventy years before I started having some of the same severe intestinal problems that my sisters have suffered from for years and years, BECAUSE OF THE ANTIHISTAMINES? I don't mean to shout, but I haven't figured out how to use the BB Code thingy.

I apologize for being so boring, but I can't sleep, and I feel serious tonight. Rachel, Madame President, our resident medical detective - is this possibly a link in your chain?

Cissie

Wow Cissie,

I cant believe how many symptoms your sisters have been dealing with. Are you all gluten intolerant or Celiac? It sounds like its possible.

Am I understanding correctly...did you say you've taken antihistimines every day since about 1945?? Wow...thats a long time....and yes, I DO think the antihistimines probably have lessened your symptoms all these years.

Patti wrote that before she was diagnosed with Celiac she took antihistimines for her allergies and she swears that while she was on them they calmed down her stomach symptoms. Maybe they were lessening the symptoms she would have been feeling from eating gluten while still undiagnosed.

I think its entirely possible that all of those years the antihistamine could have been calming the negative reactions you might have felt had you not been on the antihistimine. It makes sense that it would. Histimine causes inflammation....you would have had alot more inflammation had you not been taking the pills.

Thats my belief anyway....for what its worth.

I hope everyone has a wonderful spinach-free evening (er- is "spinached" a good thing? I might have missed that). Keep relevating! B):)

Mango,

Ummm...getting "spinached" would not be a good thing at all....just ask Celia's hubby. :lol:

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Well, Rachel, my sisters have had a million tests, but no one ever even mentioned gluten or celiac to them. Is that not amazing? What am I saying! It's a given that most doctors don't have the sense God gave a billy goat! :lol:

Neither of them has a computer, so I've printed out stacks of info on celiac and msg and sent to them. One of the reasons I'm having the entire scope of tests done by Entero Lab on myself, is to also help them and the rest of my family, especially my children. I KNOW in my heart and mind that we're gluten intolerant and have celiac disease, but my sisters need something in writing to present to their doctors. My baby sister has a new gastro doctor, who's open to learning. I'm also going to send them what I've learned about histamine.

I'm miserable tonight because I too ate gluten-free oatmeal, and now I'm all bloated, and mad at myself!

Thanks for being there in the middle of the night!

Cissie

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Ok...so my next big question is this:

Suppose the gluten intolerance created a leaky gut, which then caused increased histimine levels, which then created a toxic overload....at this point its all a vicious cycle right? We're living in histamine hell and cant get out. Suppose this histamine restricted diet works...and I feel better than I have in a long time....will I have to remain on the diet for life?

What are your thoughts?

I'm wondering if the problem can be corrected once the histamine levels are reduced. From what I've read people with histamine problems have to stay off high histamine foods and take antihistimines....thats about it. Some may take supplements like Vitamin C to help with the intolerance.

With all I've gone through I dont have much faith in mainstream docs. I'm with you there Julie. ;)

There is so much they know nothing about. Gluten intolerance is one of those things. Every one of us knows first hand what gluten can do....even w/out having full blown Celiac....if the antibodies are there....there is something not right going on.

I'm thinking that these people who just go on with life on a histamine restricted diet are more than likely still consuming gluten. Heck....the vast majority of people with gluten intolerance will never ever know they have it. They'll just deal with the health problems they get along the way.

I'm wondering if a histamine restricted diet, combined with a gluten free diet would allow damage to heal so that the histamine problem goes away. Thats what I really want....I dont wanna just put a band-aid over the problem. If theres a way to fix it...thats what my next step will be.

If the levels are constantly through the roof then wouldnt that keep the body in a very toxic state....making it difficult for the immune system to keep us from reacting to so many things? We would constantly be poisoning ourselves. The main question I have is....is all this histamine overload keeping the gut leaky? Is this why its so hard to recover? I know the purpose of the Keto is to help the gut heal but if histamine levels are already too high and we unknowingly keep consuming foods that would trigger more histamine....I dont think the Keto by itself could actually heal the gut. I think if its gonna work....it would have to be in conjunction with a histamine restricted diet.

I'm just thinking out loud...

Any thoughts?

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Well, Rachel, my sisters have had a million tests, but no one ever even mentioned gluten or celiac to them. Is that not amazing? What am I saying! It's a given that most doctors don't have the sense God gave a billy goat! :lol:

See,

This is exactly my point. Doctors suck! When it comes to gluten they are totally clueless and people like your sisters end up spending a lifetime riddled with health problems...unnecessarily. Until the day comes that the drug companies can make some money off of a Celiac diagnosis....its gonna remain unnoticed and underdiagnosed. Its really sad that so many people have to suffer.

I dont believe in taking a million meds for all the various symptoms that can develop when somethings not right. Its amazing how many pill bottles I had in my bathroom my first year of being sick....they gave me a pill for everything! Thats how they work....they dont get to the root cause of anything...they just treat symptoms. I didnt want pills though...I wanted answers....obviously if I was gonna get anywhere I'd have to do it myself cuz they just werent interested. OMG....I'm going on another "doctors suck" tangent....stop me now. :ph34r:

Anyways....I'm over all that and accept it for what it is. I cant change it.

I believe when stuff starts happening to our bodies and symptoms are developing...theres a reason behind it. Symptoms...no matter how minor or "normal" they may seem...are actually our bodies *telling* us that something isnt right. We can listen and try to find out whats "broken" or we can take all the pills the docs hand us and ignore the real issues going on. I choose to try to fix whats broke.

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Robbin,

There has to be a root cause for a histamine intolerance. I've read some stuff about the body lacking whats needed to break it down, intestinal fermentation, etc. I think it comes down to something going wrong in the digestive tract. Damage to the intestinal wall, flora imbalance, something of this nature. Something that disrupted the bodies ability to break down histamines and consequently created an overload. I'm also guessing if a person was naturally a "high histamine type" and then suffered damage to the intestinal lining from gluten intolerance.....wouldnt that create a huge problem with the mast histamine cells being constantly "stimulated" in the absence of an intact mucousal layer in the intestines??

Does this make sense?

All dried fruits are HIGH in sulfites....especially apricots. However, I bought only organic "unsulphered" dried fruits and still had problems....although not as severe. This is what was causing all my bloating and "ovary" pains last month.....plus all the other symptoms. I couldnt figure it out. It wasnt sulfites or msg. More research on histimines showed that all of the fruits I was eating are high in histamines....more so if dried but even fresh they are restricted on the diet.

To everyone in R-Ville:

I apologize for the serious nature of my posts today. :( I know...I know.....Rachelville is meant to be a happy place and void of all illness and things of that nature. I will get back to the fun stuff later. :P

BTW....where is everyone today??

And where the heck is Andrea... :unsure: I'm worried about her. :(

Oh...didnt she say she was gonna spend more "mommy" time with the kids?? Did she say that or did I just make that up in my mind? :unsure:

Rachel-

everything you said makes sense- I know for me I never reacted to anything before I got sick but once I did 3-4 years ago(again we have too much in common) I just get kept getting misdiagnosed and the leaky gut and malabsorbtion jus got worse and worse this made the stomach lining more and more compramised and I know thats why I react to everything now- so anything with preservitves- msg - or other things that can cause allergies do!! Thats why I am really hoping this med can help us heal our stomach lining and alow us to tolerate more foods with less reaction.

Miamia

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NEVER FEAR VINCENT (aka Victor LOL) IS HERE!!

Brown out = It is when the pwer does not go completely out, but dips a bit so lights dim, electronics typical fail or act sproadicly, etc. Its worse for your stuff then a full power out, but not as bad as a lighting bold.

ROFLMAO = Roll On the Floor Laughing My Donkey Off (okay well use the OTHER word for donkey that starts with an A :P )

As for the AS list... thats pretty much me! :D As for the histomean stuff... dont fit me at least... I guess im odd man out on that! :ph34r:

Did some pages get deleted? I only show 193 pages not 200...

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I'm wondering if a histamine restricted diet, combined with a gluten free diet would allow damage to heal so that the histamine problem goes away. Thats what I really want....I dont wanna just put a band-aid over the problem. If theres a way to fix it...thats what my next step will be.

If the levels are constantly through the roof then wouldnt that keep the body in a very toxic state....making it difficult for the immune system to keep us from reacting to so many things? We would constantly be poisoning ourselves. The main question I have is....is all this histamine overload keeping the gut leaky? Is this why its so hard to recover? I know the purpose of the Keto is to help the gut heal but if histamine levels are already too high and we unknowingly keep consuming foods that would trigger more histamine....I dont think the Keto by itself could actually heal the gut. I think if its gonna work....it would have to be in conjunction with a histamine restricted diet.

Rachel, this totally makes sense to me. If histimines cause heat/inflammation that prevents healing then logically anti-histimines must be cool/anti-inflammatory and if the inflammation is stopped the healing can occur. I think you have made an important discovery that will help. I completely agree with you about healing, I don't want a lifetime of medication, I want to know what is wrong with me and how I can fix it. I think much of the problem is that not enough Doctors are diagnosed Celiacs, just think how many of them must be in denial and medicating themselves. :(

I wonder if doctors ever feel betrayed by a system they placed their trust in. :P A small "brat moment". :lol:

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Thanks Vincent-Victor (lol) for explaining a brown-out. I don't ever remember having one in California but yesterday we definitely had one. I was on the computer when it went dead, but my surge protector lights were still on...then I turned on the TV to see what was up and the picture kept getting really small then normal size. Went to the refrigerator and the light was on but very dim. Then in a not so dim momment I decided I'd better turn everything off, lol.

I definitely think the histamine might be at least one of my problems...I do take antihistamine nearly every day (Zyrtec) and maybe that's why it's not really bad for me. But the itching has got to go, lol...chicken or sugar or histamine...something is causing this horrible itching. I haven't looked at the links yet...will have to wait til Monday for that so I have a faster connection. And, if not eating histamine foods will help me sleep better, yay. I am a terrible sleeper. And, just possible reducing the histamine foods might take care of whatever inflammation is making my Ampulla of Vater (easy for me to say) bigger. :)

:ph34r:I think I will always need Bumble Bar intervention. :ph34r:

bloat gas-bomb

Oh my gawd....nearly spit my iced coffee out on this one. :lol: I know you were being serious but that really nearly made me spit my coffee out, lol. Unfortunately I know the feeling. The oats are definitely suspect.

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:huh: All I can say is wow!!! I just got thru the 3 1/2 pages since I went to bed last night. It was pretty quiet in R'ville yesterday--I must have left just as it was getting good :D Actually, I had to go and finish painting the woodwork in my bedroom <_< --it's looking good in there, but the progress is slow! Today, I have to go to Home Depot to get the wall paint mixed.

Rachel--the stuff about the histimine is brilliant! It would explain an awful lot. Cissie, I was always misdiagnosed--for probably 20 years. I know that I was Celiac--no doubt about that. I took the histimine quiz, and passed with flying colors :P Rachel, what you said about the vicious cycle is true--and about the damage adding up over the years until it finally gets to be too much, and then "suddenly" all heck breaks loose. But it's really not sudden, it's been in the works for many years.

Cissie and Susan, I think you are both being *oatmealed*! There's another word to add to the various ailments we get here :D And to Julie's punching bag :P

Victor :D --Good to see you back! You've been a busy hero lately B)

Miamia--I never reacted to most of the things I react to now. Even though I knew something was wrong going back to my early 30's, I did not ever notice any specific reactions to any foods like I do now. I seem to now have to stick to meat, veggies and very little fruit (like bananas). My one sweet is the chocolate chip cookies that I make with potato starch. It's like my digestive system is super, ultra sensitive. I've learned thru trial and error how not to "set it off", but this diet is very restrictive, and as Rachel asked, I wonder if the gut will eventually heal, or if this is the way we have to eat forever.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't know Meredith's real name! I always called you Mango because I think it's cute! Although Meredith is a beautiful name :D BYW Mango, I'll always be grateful to you for that link to the Kiss My Face Soap! I use it daily. I hope that you will continue to visit with us after you move.

How is my spinached, square-wheeled twin Celia this morning? I laugh whenever I read you clip-clopping along :lol:

Hope all is well with Andrea!

Rinne--I'm glad that my water experience has been a help to you! I'm convinced :D The palps did not go away overnight, I noticed they were less harsh and then that there were long periods of time where I didn't feel them. I still notice them a little when I get up from sitting or laying down, but not like they were. I'm hoping that as time goes by, they will dissapear altogether. I had been bothered by them for about 9 months.

I know there were some others that I meant to answer, but I'll have to go back over the posts from yesterday to refresh my memory :blink: Too much for me to remember!

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This histimine thing is interesting. I have taken Claritan for 12 years, only stopping last year for a while after I was diagnosed. It helps me feel better overall--I swear it used to help calm my stomach during the years I didn't know what was really wrong.

I have to tell you all--I've been off the filtered water almost 2 weeks now, and the heart palpitations that I've had since last fall have stopped!! :huh: I'm so happy :D I had an echocardiogram done on my heart and had to wear a Holter Monitor for 24 hours a while back because no one could figure out what was causing the palps. My GP had finally chalked it up to menopause--but I didn't agree. They were almost constant and were driving me nuts! Usually when they happen in menopause, they come with hot flashes. Mine were there all the time. I even started a thread about it back last fall. I also didn't end up thinking they were gluten related, because they've gone on so long. It's clear that they had to do with the coconut/filter sensitivity. There is no other explanation as to why in the last 2 weeks, my digestion and the palps have improved so much. :o

I had palpatations too before my dx, and my dr told me they were nothing to worry about. Sicne going gluten free they have mostly stopped, but I'll have to try the water thing and see. ;)

Rachcel -- THey M word you were looking forl ike 4 pages ago is Mennonite. WAY more modern than the Amish, and they don't tend to live in "colonies' like that. (this is my family's heraitage) :P

I need to ask a question of everyone as well. Since going gluten-free, I have noticed that cuts and scrapes take WAY longer to heal than they used too, and leave darker scars. I was putting together some toy kitchen stuff for my daughter over a month ago, and the scrape I got on my arm has only healed now! :mellow: I used to be such a good healer. I have not been sick much yet so I don't know if my whole immune system is shot or not. Thoughts?

Talk to you all later

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Yeah...I'm worried too. I hear something from Andrea on a daily basis. I was thinking maybe she went out of town but Andrea (being the sweetie she is) would probably send a message explaining her absence. Its not like her to be without a post for this long. :(

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