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I went to a friends for dinner last night -fish,veggies and salad and I was fine until I started eating the steamed crabs they just caught. I started coughing alot and stopped eating them- turns out they put 1 can of beer in the boil. I have and had big time phlem - it is settling down now but major this morning. I also got a headache last night. Does anyone have this coughing / phlem issue? This I have had for a while. Thanks LindaLee

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I had chronic postnasal drip and choking on phlegm when I consumed CASEIN (to which Enterolab tests showed I am intolerant). As soon as I stopped consuming all sources of dairy, my chronic sinus 'allergies', regular sinus infections (whenever I caught a cold) and stuffy nose all disappeared. Excessive mucous means our bodies are reacting to a perceived invasion. Many celiacs get mucous covered stools or even pass mucous. Perhaps your coughing and phlegm were your body's reaction to the gluten contaminated boil (from the beer). After we abstain from gluten for a while, it only takes a tiny amount of gluten to cause a huge celiac reaction.

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I had chronic postnasal drip and choking on phlegm when I consumed CASEIN (to which Enterolab tests showed I am intolerant). As soon as I stopped consuming all sources of dairy, my chronic sinus 'allergies', regular sinus infections (whenever I caught a cold) and stuffy nose all disappeared. Excessive mucous means our bodies are reacting to a perceived invasion. Many celiacs get mucous covered stools or even pass mucous. Perhaps your coughing and phlegm were your body's reaction to the gluten contaminated boil (from the beer). After we abstain from gluten for a while, it only takes a tiny amount of gluten to cause a huge celiac reaction.

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Did you send something to the lab or you dr? I am going to go off dairy and see if it helps. I love yogurt and sour cream the most. I was thinking about eliminating soy and corn also. I eat alot of those. or would you eliminate one thing the dairy first? The choking causes alarm to others and they say go to the dr. but I dread it. LindaLee

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Did you send something to the lab or you dr? I am going to go off dairy and see if it helps. I love yogurt and sour cream the most. I was thinking about eliminating soy and corn also. I eat alot of those. or would you eliminate one thing the dairy first? The choking causes alarm to others and they say go to the dr. but I dread it. LindaLee

I didn't mean to imply that your phlegm/coughing came from dairy. If you know you have celiac disease or gluten intolerance, you probably reacted to the gluten contamination (from beer) in the 'boil'. I just wanted to explain how mucous and phlegm is a common antibody reaction. I have also heard others react with choking sensations after consuming gluten. I get that occasionally, but my gut pain is so severe that I don't notice other symptoms as much.

I did Enterolab stool sample tests for gluten and milk sensitivity, Ttg, malabsorption and celiac gene (mouth swab). I did NOT do blood tests through my local doc (who misdiagnosed my symptoms for 10 years), because I did not want to endure excruciatingly painful symptoms from eating gluten another second. Blood tests required that I continue consuming gluten.) You can check out Enterolab at http://www.enterolab.com

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I get phlegm and coughing from gluten also, but I get it from other things as well.

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I went to a friends for dinner last night -fish,veggies and salad and I was fine until I started eating the steamed crabs they just caught. I started coughing alot and stopped eating them- turns out they put 1 can of beer in the boil. I have and had big time phlem - it is settling down now but major this morning. I also got a headache last night. Does anyone have this coughing / phlem issue? This I have had for a while. Thanks LindaLee

I was sent to the Ear Nose and Throat Dr. He said it was severe rhinitus (coughing and phlem) but I have this problem year round. Never guessed it had anything to do with gluten. Drs. have been saying that gluten is slipping into my diet someway. Don't do much dairy, but when I do I use Dairy Ease. Wonder if that is my problem?

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I use Dr. Becker's sinus cleanser to kill bacteria but they also sell a cheap version at rite aid for $!!.00 that they can't keep in. It is a plastic bottle that looks like an alladins lamp. Several people I know say that works good for allergies also. Dr. Becker said also to put a little neosporan in the nose to kill it off because it is hard to get the bacteria off the hairs. That has helped my sinus as well.

I get phlegm and coughing from gluten also, but I get it from other things as well.

Ursula, I checked the info for the vitamins. What kind or brand do you think is good? I especially want a powdered multiple. I usually take a lot -c,b,e,coq10 and carnitine, b-12, calcium and mag.,and a few others when needed.

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Dairy Ease helps digest lactose (the milk SUGAR), if you have dairy intolerance, which is caused by damaged villi. Most celiacs have damaged villi and lactose intolerance until they abstain from gluten for awhile to let intestinal villi heal. HOWEVER, if you have CASEIN (the milk protein) intolerance (ANTIBODY REACTIONS TO CASEIN), Dairy Ease and Lactaid product are useless. Been there, done that ... Mucous and excessive phlegm may be a symptom of Casein intolerance. If you eat yogurt or cheese or even some supposedly nondairy substitutes (check the label), you may still be consuming casein or whey or rennet, which can all cause milk sensitivity antibody reactions.

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Since I've been eating glutten alot over the years I am sure the vili is damaged so I will avoid the milk also. What brand of vitamins do you take - I better try to get some without milk as well. I've been eating soy also - soy powder in my smoothie and soy milk in my coffee. Maybe I should eliminate that too. Thanks, LindaLee

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I don't know if being glutened has caused you to cough and splutter or not.Coughing and bring up sputum is not normal. It indicates an assault on your airways and the over- production of sputum means your lungs may become infected and in the end run damage your lungs. Get checked out.

I have only recently found out I am a possible celiac disease. I have had lung disease ALL my life. My primary diagnosis is bronchiectasis with a chronic pseudomonas infection. I only have about 45% of my lung capacity left . It was thought to be the result of a genetic condition called PCD. This is where the hairlike structues on your mucus membrame don't work correctly and sweep the mucus out. People have problems wherever thay have mucus membrane, sinus and lungs are common. Men are generally infertile and women subfertile.

If consuming gluten causes inflamation in your body I expect that sometimes this may involve your airways where they will secrete mucus to protect themselves.

It will be interesting as I start gluten-free to see if my underlying condition improves.

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In most cases I find that being glutened actually exasperates my other sensitivities.

I can usually get away with casein but not when glutened and my hay fever returns when glutened.

Beer always left me feeling phlelgmy before gluten-free.... so it could be a combination of the gluten and the other things in beer or perhaps something else in the meal as well.

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